12-1 lighting schedule, has anyone actually tried this?

skunkushybrid01

skunkushybrid01

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Hazuki said:
Hi, greetings from a fellow grower from Germany! I want to say that I'm really excited to try out this new lighting cycle myself. I will do it on my next run with 400W MH/HPS. I have 9 Chronic cuttings already rooted. Since a few days they are under 12/5.5/1/5.5. I will continue like that when I put them under the 400W MH lamp in ~1.5 weeks. Flowering will also be done like described (11/13, 10.5/13.5, 10/14, etc).

Now I got a little question: How are the plants reacting during the stretch period? Is the stretch the same as always or does something change? If the plants stretch less or for a shorter time, it would be wise to let them a bit longer in the vegetative phase than normal, wouldn't you say?
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yes you'd be correct. but be careful of using logic around here.
 
skunkushybrid01

skunkushybrid01

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ChronicClouds said:
What is so hard to understand that it is working for them??? It doesn't matter if you don't understand it or fail to see the point! FOR FUCKS SAKE!! Move on!
And how is there no scientific proof when these people are running the experiment? That's science and that's proof. You don't need a phd or lab coat to run an experiment. It's great you fail to see i personally don't give a shit and am tired of reading your crybaby crap. If you need more 'scientific proof' google it!
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i have googled it and can only find the shit from MJ sites.

these people are not running legitimate experiments either... not even two grows of the same clones runnign at once. nothing like that, just supposition and outright bullshit a lot of the time.
 
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we always went 16/8 for veg and start dialing down when you want to initiate the flower cyccle seems to keep nodes tighter, though keeping temps close at all times can achieve tighter nodes ,would you say running 12/1 nodes are still tight as 12/12
 
legallyflying

legallyflying

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In every experiment there is typically a control. Ergo.. two plants side by side one that underwent the light schedule and one that did not. Showing a picture of a plant saying "look at how good this works" is all well and good but it doesn't prove or disprove a thing other than the plant is healthy and growing.

ALL my plants look like that after 5 weeks of veg. but then again I am using DWC. I'm sorry I can not find the journal article that I was referencing above. It was talking about climactic conditions and their role on THC production. I know I rad it more than once, its likely in here as well but I don't have time to find it right now,I will look for it latter. http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/marijuana_chemistry.pdf

You can't blame people for being skeptical of an un-natural light schedule and claims of greater growth. It does not make a whole lot of sense when you factor in a plants circadian rythymm and the simple reality of photosynthesis, carbohydrate production and the role of those carbohydrates in plant tissue production.
 
azman

azman

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skunkushybrid01 said:
i have googled it and can only find the shit from MJ sites.

these people are not running legitimate experiments either... not even two grows of the same clones runnign at once. nothing like that, just supposition and outright bullshit a lot of the time.
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well what evidence do you need? video? i am using the same strain too, i am doing blue cheese from the same mother i cut my last batch from.
using the same nutes,soil watering amounts, just different lightng technique,
even if you saw this for your self i still think you would say nah not possible cos thats the type of person you are.

in fact why not try it and try and prove it to be wrong?
 
Dr Gruber

Dr Gruber

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legallyflying said:
In every experiment there is typically a control. Ergo.. two plants side by side one that underwent the light schedule and one that did not. Showing a picture of a plant saying "look at how good this works" is all well and good but it doesn't prove or disprove a thing other than the plant is healthy and growing.

ALL my plants look like that after 5 weeks of veg. but then again I am using DWC. I'm sorry I can not find the journal article that I was referencing above. It was talking about climactic conditions and their role on THC production. I know I rad it more than once, its likely in here as well but I don't have time to find it right now,I will look for it latter. http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/marijuana_chemistry.pdf

You can't blame people for being skeptical of an un-natural light schedule and claims of greater growth. It does not make a whole lot of sense when you factor in a plants circadian rythymm and the simple reality of photosynthesis, carbohydrate production and the role of those carbohydrates in plant tissue production.
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Nope...i was skeptical and still am about certain parts of it. The picture as you said didnt prove its a perfect schedule ...but it does show a plant that isnt dead from lack of light as some have claimed here.. and it shows that it didnt strech as the same person said it "would" do. It shows a healthy looking bushy plant, contrary to what said person claimed it would look like.
Nobody has a problem with skeptics, just take a look at his first few posts in the thread and you will see what the problem is.
 
azman

azman

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During the day plants convert sunlight into sugar. During the dark hours the plant uses the sugar to grow. They spring up at night because that is when the growing happens.
so by giving the plants more dark but not enough to flower, therefore the plants should grow faster no?
also: it also uses more of the nutrients that you've added in the soil at night because there's no heat energy to provide what it may need.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_cycle
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skunkushybrid01

skunkushybrid01

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Dr Gruber said:
Nope...i was skeptical and still am about certain parts of it. The picture as you said didnt prove its a perfect schedule ...but it does show a plant that isnt dead from lack of light as some have claimed here.. and it shows that it didnt strech as the same person said it "would" do. It shows a healthy looking bushy plant, contrary to what said person claimed it would look like.
Nobody has a problem with skeptics, just take a look at his first few posts in the thread and you will see what the problem is.
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I said that plants can die from lack of light not that this schedule will kill them. I also said that plants on 12/5.5/1/5.5 actually stretch less because they are given less energy to grow in the first place.
 
skunkushybrid01

skunkushybrid01

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azman said:


During the day plants convert sunlight into sugar. During the dark hours the plant uses the sugar to grow. They spring up at night because that is when the growing happens.
so by giving the plants more dark but not enough to flower, therefore the plants should grow faster no?
also: it also uses more of the nutrients that you've added in the soil at night because there's no heat energy to provide what it may need.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calvin_cycle
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Why post a link to the calvin cycle when you clearly do not understand it? also you make it look like you've quoted directly from wiki, when you haven't.
 
azman

azman

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im past even talking to this clown tbh,
the only way he would even consider it is if you were to knock on his door and beat the shit out of him with a 12/1 vegd plant lol.
 
skunkushybrid01

skunkushybrid01

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azman said:
im past even talking to this clown tbh,
the only way he would even consider it is if you were to knock on his door and beat the shit out of him with a 12/1 vegd plant lol.
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why post a link to the calvin cycle? what is your reason for it?

i already know what the reason is, i just want to hear it first so i can then point out your misconception. as i have pointed out throughout this thread, whatever the plant does when the lights are off it will also do when the lights are on... but not the other way around. i know that will go right over your head... but it's the facts that are important, not your ignorance.
 
LILBSDAD

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View attachment 1831923View attachment 1831922View attachment 1831921View attachment 1831920View attachment 1831919View attachment 1831918View attachment 1831917Day 35 since flipping to 11-13 and reducing a half hour every two weeks after. I seriously wish I could smack skunkushyhybrid with one of these nugs. I suggest everyone hit ignore on him like I did. Cheers to everyone else following. Pic 1 is C-99, 2 is Durban Poison, 4 is Warlock, 3,6, and 7 are Chocolope, Grapefruit Diesel, and Grapefruit Romulan but I forgot which is which.
 
LILBSDAD

LILBSDAD

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legallyflying said:
oooh.. that's a "little " nute burn? Yikes, I would hate to see you "really" push them.
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Yeah, the little one in front was a freebee that can't handle the nutes. These are all new strains for me so I will be weeding that one out for sure. The others just have them on the tips of the leaves, which I don't smoke (maybe you do). Anyone who pushes their ppm will have tips burned. It is not a big deal, do you see any problems with the buds or are you just concerned about fan leaves and the tips? Now can we stick to the topic of the lighting schedule, I thought you unsubcribed from this thread anyways?
 
poind3xter

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skunkushybrid01 said:
why post a link to the calvin cycle? what is your reason for it?

i already know what the reason is, i just want to hear it first so i can then point out your misconception. as i have pointed out throughout this thread, whatever the plant does when the lights are off it will also do when the lights are on... but not the other way around. i know that will go right over your head... but it's the facts that are important, not your ignorance.
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Virtually every commercial greenhouse I've read about does 12/1. If all it does is save electricity then that's enough of a reason to do it.
 
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