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FrostickZero

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Filtration will remove solid particulate matter in suspension in a solution but is ineffective against dissolved solids.




Slacker.

If you had your shit together, you could be getting a harvest every 15 fuckin' minutes.

I don't wanna see pix from your oh-so-frequently productive op- I want video... from a 3000fps high-speed cam. :D



CFLs are great stuff for applications where you need low-intensity light, such as cloning and slow-vegging mums. They are not suitable for flowering, at least if you expect dense, heavy buddage.

For the ventilation or stealth challenged, CFLs may make the difference between flowering a very small amt of poor to ordinary quality bud or none at all.

For flowering cannabis, HPS is the tool for the job. If you think you need the low power consumption of CFL for a micro op, what you really need is a low wattage HPS. The ittybitty HPS toobs are available in 60, 75, 100, 150 and 250W as accent or security lighting from hdwe or lighting speciality stores- and any one of those will beat the yield of twice the wattage of CFLs, with better quality to boot.

The fabled PC cabinet grow has been attempted with CFLs... it actually could work with a clever arrangement of a low wattage HPS in a home-made cooltube. Big fuckin' ups to the joker who cuts up a pickle jar for a cooltube over a 75W and grows in a friggin' shoebox. :D
Well I get $400 soon so I'm deff gona be investing into it and for the vid I can do it I just have to charge my batteries for it and I'll post em up for you, but I dk where or how I can so if you can help me out with that then I'll gladly post em up
 

stickyicky77

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Hey AL.B , do the gold spots on the leaves look like the beginning of K deficiency or nute burn to you. These plants are 3 weeks from seed and hopefully are going to be my mothers if they turn out to be females. Once they get to 24" tall i plan to start taking clones off of them to flower in my 2x2 flood and drain tray under a 400w Super HPS. I haven't been able to match up these gold spots to anything in my reference books or on this site? I use FoxFarm nutes with Liquid Carma and SubCulture and i use distilled water with a pH of 5.8 and the ppm 580. I keep my fans and ventilation on 24-7. The temp in the Homebox ranges from 78-84 F with lights on a veg cycle and at night temps range from 70-74 F. The humidity stays 30-35%








 

Al B. Fuct

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Hey AL.B , do the gold spots on the leaves look like the beginning of K deficiency or nute burn to you.
It's not nute burn; that would appear as burns to the tips and margins of the leaves. K def sounds possible since your ppm is pretty low at 580. I run my tanks at 1400.
 

Kaosisglobal

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Are you spraying your ladies. I think I dealt with the same problem. And I judged it as spraying to close to light period. Made changes never spray, but towards beginning of night cycle now. Doing much better. :joint:
 

Al B. Fuct

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The minerals are what concerns me.
Don't worry about minerals. The minerals you will mainly find dissolved in tapwater are iron and limestone (calcium carbonate, CaCO3).

I wouldn't worry about limestone; the main effect of too much dissolved limestone is a raising of the pH. You will compensate for this with a phosphoric acid pHDown solution when you mix up a new tank (and the flowering plants will like the extra P they get from the pHDown). However, calcium is in fact an important micronutrient for cannabis. I add 10ml of Canna's 15% Ca supplement with each tank (and also Epsom Salts for Mg) as I know my tapwater is naturally soft due to our local sandstone (instead of limestone or granite) catchment bedrock.

Iron is also an important micronutrient and should already be included in any complete hydroponic nutrient. However, the iron in municipal tapwater, leached from cast iron pipes, coupled with running a somewhat acidic nute soln at 5.8 as we do, usually means iron deficiencies are pretty rare in hydroponic cannabis ops.

The only real problem dissolved mineral is sulfur and if your borewater has enough of it, you'll know- from the rotten egg/farty smell.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Are you spraying your ladies. I think I dealt with the same problem. And I judged it as spraying to close to light period. Made changes never spray, but towards beginning of night cycle now. Doing much better. :joint:
Sure, you can burn leaf tips with foliar feeding. You can induce fungal problems too. For those reasons, I don't foliar feed. I limit spraying to only 1x per 2wks when I apply an anti-fungal to suppress powdery mildew.
 

Kaosisglobal

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Hey Al, check out my thread. I am trying to move out of my veg chamber. I am looking to buy a lockable closet. (like sunlights cool cab) and do it up. I have a 400 HPS, two bubbleponic Stealth Hydro tanks. Any ideas. This is officially my first grow. My last was a disaster. And the first reason for that was light leakage, then security.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
Hey Al, check out my thread. I am trying to move out of my veg chamber. I am looking to buy a lockable closet. (like sunlights cool cab) and do it up. I have a 400 HPS, two bubbleponic Stealth Hydro tanks. Any ideas. This is officially my first grow. My last was a disaster. And the first reason for that was light leakage, then security.
...from page 50...

I don't mind discussing general concepts but I'd like to avoid designing other folks' ops from top to bottom or hand-holding them through a grow. It's just too taxing on my limited time. It's why I have PMs disabled. Remember, I'm a slacker and I'm running a very productive op. There's enough info on room construction and general theory of growing cannabis all over this board to get anyone through who can take the time to read the stuff. In terms of troubleshooting, there's folks on here who are much better at diagnosing stuff than I am, too. See potroast, he knows everything (please don't kill me pottie.... :smile: ).
 

Kaosisglobal

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I don't need someone to hold my hand. I need good opinions from people I feel I can trust. I don't know if thats the best closet. Maybe someone to start, can tell me where I can buy the best suitable cheapest. There is not enough on building a closet. Go ahead and look into it. It's always easier said then done. Thank god I have enough sense to complete all on my own, cause not one person has posted help on my thread. I just wanted some good opinions. I am timid it's my first real grow. And I have filled my grow space beautifully. Now I want to fill the next space, lol.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
I don't need someone to hold my hand.
Your thread is titled "Help me design a low budget closet," which is what prompted my cut/paste response about designing ops for others.

Building a wardrobe is a fairly straightforward task if you have basic carpentry tools & skills. However, sit down and cost out the project first. You might find that it's more economical to buy a new ready-made wardrobe or even may find one 2nd hand.

Option B is to build a grow tent, which only requires a frame of either timber or of 1" square aluminum tubing connected with plastic 'Qubelok' fittings, which you can cover with panda film.

Let me give you a small clue, though- when you tell the RIU community "You all suck," don't expect anyone to crowd your door with offers of assistance. You're probably lucky no one has so far told you to jam it up your ass. Not a single person on this board is obligated to share their accumulated wisdom- and you being abusive sure won't prompt anyone to come to your aid.
 

Kaosisglobal

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You all suck is a fishing line to get people in. I didn't say fuck you all. I actually have a few buddies I chat with that are definantly cool. And I know you are cool and full of knowledge. My first 3 days on the forum, I didn't post a word. With the warning you gave to other newbies. But there really isn't any help in that direct catagorie. I have decided like a said with a metal cabinet like sunlight sheds, cause it natural comes with a locking mech. I have my tanks and light so I can drop them in and worry next about ventalation. I originally wanted that clone chamber on top, but after reading that it's not the best I figure on metal cab, for flower. And old box with CFLs for veg. I just don't want to fuck up. This harest is like my only way out of the shit that I'm in. And I want to do it right. Also I'm using TechnaFlora Nutes. I bought the pack from SH when I ordered some time ago.
 

Enigma

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Buy a dark room.. with the questions you've asked I'd take as much responsibility out of your hands and go with some manufactured.
 

Kaosisglobal

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I have over grown my box. (Square) So I want a metal closet (i.e. verticle) for the sake of it's natural light. I have been LSTing my ladies, I do have nutes, I'm in tanks and I have an HPS. I'm not a fool, just someone looking for a solid good opinion. On my thread I put a link to Staples closet. I would strip from top shelf down. No cloning on top just storage. After leaving Staples I see my next stop at home depot for Venting and possible reflective meterial. But I suppose that closet will reflet on it's on, since it's an off white????? What do you guys think???
 

Kaosisglobal

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Metal closet for sake of Natural Lock. SEcurity is key. I lost my last grow to my bestfriends mom a few years back. And I have been patiently waiting out this one. I am way out of space though. The SH tanks are to tall. Most Minicabs use tanks 5-6" tall mine are a foot. Then a foot for the light. I am growing Sativas and they are all bent still pushing 2'8" on there sides. I don't want to fuck up. Which is why I ask questions. I learned young the stupid guy asks no questions.
 

Enigma

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Metal closet for sake of Natural Lock. SEcurity is key. I lost my last grow to my bestfriends mom a few years back. And I have been patiently waiting out this one. I am way out of space though. The SH tanks are to tall. Most Minicabs use tanks 5-6" tall mine are a foot. Then a foot for the light. I am growing Sativas and they are all bent still pushing 2'8" on there sides. I don't want to fuck up. Which is why I ask questions. I learned young the stupid guy asks no questions.
You could always train the plants using fishing line, or top them.
 

Al B. Fuct

once had a dog named
What's the big deal, Kaos? Just go buy some cheap wardrobes, ferfuxsake. Doesn't much matter what it's made from, but I don't think I'd get a metal one, particularly not steel. It'd amplify vibration noise from any fans attached to it, would be hard to cut holes to fit ducts & fans and worst, will rust.

I want a metal closet (i.e. verticle) for the sake of it's natural light.
huh?

I lost my last grow to my bestfriends mom a few years back.
Momavoidance is not a topic you'll see me cover too much. If you're concerned that someone's mom is going to cut through a timber cabinet and won't get through a metal one, I suggest you find a place to live where the moms don't walk around with angle grinders and sabre saws at the ready.

One thing you can take from this thread (which actually is about a SoG grow, lest we forget...) is to start a mother plant, take cuttings and put them in to flower as soon as they set root. This will limit their vertical height to something more suitable for a wardrobe. Removing branch growth on the lower 1/3 of the plant and flowering with no veg time will allow your to grow four ~30-40" tall plants per sf. Your plants are too tall because you vegged before flowering. Plants continue growing vegetatively for about the first 4 weeks of 12/12 lighting and will triple to quadruple in height by wk 4, when they will stop growing vertical height, with no veg time between clones setting root and flowering them.
 

Kaosisglobal

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Ok, good view point. Thats what I need. I am not worried about mom avoidance as much as just security. So I am going to look into some wooden frames I can start with. I just don't want to build my frame. I allowed to much verticle space before I topped and LSTed. And I am cautious about cutting my beautiful girls. I hate putting the blade to them. I have already pulled 2 clones of my best two plants and they look to be doing great 4 days later. I constantly have people over, and don't want snoopers finding out whats behind the doors. I definantly need to keep the light traped. Thanks I think I am getting closer. I want to do this by tonight.

What's the big deal, Kaos? Just go buy some cheap wardrobes, ferfuxsake. Doesn't much matter what it's made from, but I don't think I'd get a metal one, particularly not steel. It'd amplify vibration noise from any fans attached to it, would be hard to cut holes to fit ducts & fans and worst, will rust.



huh?



Momavoidance is not a topic you'll see me cover too much. If you're concerned that someone's mom is going to cut through a timber cabinet and won't get through a metal one, I suggest you find a place to live where the moms don't walk around with angle grinders and sabre saws at the ready.

One thing you can take from this thread (which actually is about a SoG grow, lest we forget...) is to start a mother plant, take cuttings and put them in to flower as soon as they set root. This will limit their vertical height to something more suitable for a wardrobe. Removing branch growth on the lower 1/3 of the plant and flowering with no veg time will allow your to grow four ~30-40" tall plants per sf. Your plants are too tall because you vegged before flowering. Plants continue growing vegetatively for about the first 4 weeks of 12/12 lighting and will triple to quadruple in height by wk 4, when they will stop growing vertical height, with no veg time between clones setting root and flowering them.
 
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