Is This Really Happening?

ford442

ford442

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http://content.usatoday.com/communities/ondeadline/post/2011/10/feds-order-all-calif-medical-marijuana-outlets-to-close/1


The Obama administration has ordered all medical-marijuana dispensaries in California to shut down within 45 days or they will be prosecuted and have their property confiscated for violating federal drugs laws, the Associated Press reports.Even licensed outlets operating under the 1996 voter-approved medical-marijuana law are subject to the federal crackdown. California's four U.S. attorneys plan an announcement Friday.
AP says the federal prosecutors have notified at least 16 pot shops or their landlords.
 
Ernst

Ernst

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Yes it is...

Looks like the Tax deductions are also being used. Harborside Health Center, Oakland has to pay 2.4 million dollars.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/04/harborside-health-center-tax-bill_n_995139.html
And cannot deduct anything but the cost of buying the weed and things like Yoga as business expenses.
So electric bills, payroll and so on are not deductible.

Now also the Federal Government is now taking property away from those renting to dispensaries or having land used in growing it.

http://www.examiner.com/real-estate-in-san-francisco/harboring-pot-growers-the-fed-might-be-on-your-tail


So it looks like the Federal Government is serious that Cannabis business is not allowed.

So then we need to focus on legalizing cannabis for all like we do with prop 215.

We cannot fight the Tax Man and the Federal Government on taking property away but we can change out law to allow all of us to grow, use, and trade in non-commercial ways in California.

I know that I risk being told to F-myself again because folks want to open those doors and sell high priced cannabis and make a fortune but it isn't going to happen.

So why not do the people thing?

Let us make it legal for everyone and not require a medical card.

If I can grow and trade with you or perhaps get some of one kind from you and another kind from someone else and that is legal then is that so bad?

Is having California be the first State to opt out of Cannabis prohibition a bad thing? We don't need dispensaries and businesses to make that happen.

It's time to focus on a simpler first step. For the people.


 
ford442

ford442

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I am watching Prohibition Part 2 right now.. It is just like when the feds were in control of booze - everything went to shit and no one was happy.. and it was the most evident in New York City where every single policeman was on the take.. Whiskey was 'medical' and nothing made any sense..
 
HankDank

HankDank

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I hate to see it go down this way, but to me it looks like a large leap in the right direction. If they shut down ALL dispensaries it might just be the straw that breaks the camels back so to speak.
 
mikeandnaomi

mikeandnaomi

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Sorry to all those losing their jobs. Kinda bad that the Obama administration went back on its word. Typical politico sale ole same ole.

I am thinking the pharmaceutical companies are seeing how big this business of medical cannabis is and thus enter campaign funds.

Imagine if these companies are forcing the hand of this administration. Just a wild conspiracy theory of sorts. Follow the money. As if

EVERYONE doesn't know how prescription drugs make the 80's crack epidemic look like small potatoes. Follow the money. What ever

happen to states rights? For all of you who wanted big government - here it is - you got it. With all that being said,

I like ERNST idea. He had the long post up top. The idea of growing in a non commercial way is spot on - in my book.
 
stumpjumper

stumpjumper

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I love how so many people are just now realizing that cock-sucker lied just to get cannabis users votes. This has been evident for months! Wake the fuck up people.
 
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fishwhistle

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Ernst said:
Yes it is...

Looks like the Tax deductions are also being used. Harborside Health Center, Oakland has to pay 2.4 million dollars.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/10/04/harborside-health-center-tax-bill_n_995139.html
And cannot deduct anything but the cost of buying the weed and things like Yoga as business expenses.
So electric bills, payroll and so on are not deductible.

Now also the Federal Government is now taking property away from those renting to dispensaries or having land used in growing it.

http://www.examiner.com/real-estate-in-san-francisco/harboring-pot-growers-the-fed-might-be-on-your-tail


So it looks like the Federal Government is serious that Cannabis business is not allowed.

So then we need to focus on legalizing cannabis for all like we do with prop 215.

We cannot fight the Tax Man and the Federal Government on taking property away but we can change out law to allow all of us to grow, use, and trade in non-commercial ways in California.

I know that I risk being told to F-myself again because folks want to open those doors and sell high priced cannabis and make a fortune but it isn't going to happen.

So why not do the people thing?

Let us make it legal for everyone and not require a medical card.

If I can grow and trade with you or perhaps get some of one kind from you and another kind from someone else and that is legal then is that so bad?

Is having California be the first State to opt out of Cannabis prohibition a bad thing? We don't need dispensaries and businesses to make that happen.

It's time to focus on a simpler first step. For the people.
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Ernst for president!!
 
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Johnny1969

Member
Yeah I'm pretty freaked out. I'm a 42 yr old late bloomer started using med marijuana just 5 mos ago. The thing is I have been taking tramadol for the past 8 years for an old injury. I freaked out when I found something other than a pill that nauseates me and causes me to stay up at night! Now I see this in the news last night. I guess my decision to start growing in my backyard 4 mos ago was a great idea. Oh this is my first post here so hi all this community has helped me so much the past several weeks.
 
HankDank

HankDank

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mikeandnaomi said:
Sorry to all those losing their jobs. Kinda bad that the Obama administration went back on its word. Typical politico sale ole same ole.

I am thinking the pharmaceutical companies are seeing how big this business of medical cannabis is and thus enter campaign funds.

Imagine if these companies are forcing the hand of this administration. Just a wild conspiracy theory of sorts. Follow the money. As if

EVERYONE doesn't know how prescription drugs make the 80's crack epidemic look like small potatoes. Follow the money. What ever

happen to states rights? For all of you who wanted big government - here it is - you got it. With all that being said,

I like ERNST idea. He had the long post up top. The idea of growing in a non commercial way is spot on - in my book.
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lol sir, thats not a conspiracy theory, everyone with half a brain knows big pharm pays high end kickbacks to the anti-cannabis wing. As well as tobacco, Phillip Morris has to be paying out the ASS. This worlds run by people, not machines. Money's a great incentive for influence to those who happen to find themselves in positions of power.
 
WWDave

WWDave

Member
Sure glad we have the first half black president out of the way. I want to pour some organic pure maple syrup on his head because he is a WAFFLE.......
 
Wolfhound

Wolfhound

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Obummer , plain & simple, did not EVER do the right thing. No one has scammed us worse than this sham of a Prez. His political end cannot come soon enough for our country.
 
ford442

ford442

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I don't place the blame squarely on Obama - imagine if Osama suddenly changed his policy and said that westerners are just great - would he still be leader of Al Qaeda? Obama would be impeached or strong-armed if he did anything out of line..
So, my concern is for the federal government at large.. They are making themselves very unpopular.. Assassinations of american born citizens? Incursions into Pakistan? 9/11 was the result of mismanagement at a federal level - and unlike Afghanistan and Iraq, Pakistan has nukes..
 
Ernst

Ernst

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Thank you guys for the kind reply.

i have been posting things similar to the for the people since the prop 19 2010 and it has been met with hostility.

Perhaps now that the only way to go is the for the people like prop 215 way we all might get our Cannabis people to support it.

Please correct me but we as a State did allow a class of citizen to have cannabis (medical) so it stands to reason that we can as a State allow a larger class of citizen to have rights to Cannabis too.

Sure it will still be illegal on the Federal level but the way I understand our process of Government working is that we (California) had to sign on like all the States did and I understand we can sign out.

What needs to be true is that the movement must continue and the people deserve cannabis freedom.
 
Milovan

Milovan

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Not limited to just 16. You can count in 12 more in San Diego and
2 just got raided by the DEA ( 3 vans full) 2 days ago in North Hollywood so the raids are NOT limited.
A most recent report is that dozens of letter were sent out and this is just
the beginning.
 
jks067

jks067

Member
This makes me sick. I cannot believe that they are actually doing this. It is time for the People of the United States of America to take our country back. Our forefathers have probably rolled in their graves at the rape of democracy that has happened since the Reagan Administration. This country was created for the People and by the People and I will be damned if they think they can get away with this without repercussion! The People of this Nation are tired of the lies and corrupt politicians. Take to the streets, brothers and sisters. Impeach Obama, if a president was caught lying such as this fifty years ago he would be out of office within a matter of weeks. Don't put up with this shit, people!
 
hellraizer30

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
we the people are a mear fly on the wall when it come to who is in charge! its all about money and politics and how they can rape us for
all we got or ever will have
 
jks067

jks067

Member
Perhaps a revolt is in order. It seems to already be underway with the Occupy Wall Street movement. The more "We the People" wake up to what is really going on and realize what a sham the government has become the more likely it is that we will see said revolt. I am a peaceful person at heart, but when my individual liberties and freedoms come under attack I can not help but get fired up. As should every American, in my opinion.
 
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