Obama is it because he is Black or Democrat

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mame

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They didn't try to fix anything. They passed their agenda and made things worse.
I'd like to see you prove that claim; Not only with correlation, but with causation. I'll be waiting.
We will bounce back as soon as we take out all the trash that is stinking up the place.
This one too, you righties like to say this but removing Obama from office isn't going to magically close the output gap... Cmon, where's the evidence?
 

mame

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The proof is all around you. They got clobbered in the last election and are going to get clobbered in the next one.
That isn't evidence of anything but a political victory.

Cmon man, this shouldn't be so hard if you're as smart as you think you are... You should have no problem producing material of an academic nature that irrefutably proves your point; As of this moment you have not done that, care to try?
 

Mindmelted

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I'd like to see you prove that claim; Not only with correlation, but with causation. I'll be waiting.

This one too, you righties like to say this but removing Obama from office isn't going to magically close the output gap... Cmon, where's the evidence?

How about YOU prove that this is not what happened!!!!

Come on Mange i mean mame...
 

Jack Fate

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That isn't evidence of anything but a political victory.

Cmon man, this shouldn't be so hard if you're as smart as you think you are... You should have no problem producing material of an academic nature that irrefutably proves your point; As of this moment you have not done that, care to try?
You want proof of an "academic nature". Academics are in the White House, running the nation. LOL. There's your proof.
 

mame

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I'll help you out... You cannot produce evidence for those claims because they are not factually correct.
 

Jack Fate

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Still no evidence? Do you have any numbers? Cmon, you're starting to look like you dont know!

You said you wanted "academic evidence". The President is an academic and he has surrounded himself with academics. They have failed. What I'm looking like is what I always look like. I don't consider your opinion of me to be valid. Carry on.
 

Jack Fate

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I'll help you out... You cannot produce evidence for those claims because they are not factually correct.
Okay. So what are you going to do about it? What are you going to do about the election last year and the election coming up that is going to be just as bad or worse? Are you going to ask every voter for "academic evidence" because they voted against your guy? LOL. Good luck.
 

mame

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You said you wanted "academic evidence". The President is an academic and he has surrounded himself with academics. They have failed. What I'm looking like is what I always look like. I don't consider your opinion of me to be valid. Carry on.
I dont give a shit if you care about my opinion, what I care about is you spreading misinformation on these forums. Now, back your claims up or you've lost the argument it's as simple as that. If you had any idea what you were talking about this would be easy, but you have no clue do you?
 

Jack Fate

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I dont give a shit if you care about my opinion, what I care about is you spreading misinformation on these forums. Now, back your claims up or you've lost the argument it's as simple as that. If you had any idea what you were talking about this would be easy, but you have no clue do you?
Obama promised to close Gitmo when he campaigned 3 years ago. Still open. FAILURE.

Obama promised to never attack a nation that was no direct threat. Libya. FAILURE.

Obama promised the HCR would lower insurance costs. They went up. FAILURE.

Obama said the stimulus would keep unemployment under 8%. FAILURE.

Solyndra. FAILURE.

Fast and Furious. Serious Failure.


You want more? If you are going to accuse me of spreading misinformation, then you better damn well be explicit what misinformation I am spreading.
 

mame

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Obama promised to close Gitmo when he campaigned 3 years ago. Still open. FAILURE.

Obama promised to never attack a nation that was no direct threat. Libya. FAILURE.

Obama promised the HCR would lower insurance costs. They went up. FAILURE.

Obama said the stimulus would keep unemployment under 8%. FAILURE.

Solyndra. FAILURE.

Fast and Furious. Serious Failure.


You want more? If you are going to accuse me of spreading misinformation, then you better damn well be explicit what misinformation I am spreading.
You made two claims that I contended against, and they were Obama's policies "made things worse" and "We will bounce back as soon as we take out all the trash that is stinking up the place."

I already refuted the first in the other thread, I'm still waiting for your evidence on the second.

Also, healthcare costs go up every year; This year is no different and you cannot judge Obamacare until data is out (about a decades worth will do).

The private sector invested more into Solyndra than the government did, and the government invested billions in clean energy - half a billion is less than 1% of their total portfolio in the industry... Big deal...

Libya? I'm indifferent TBH, I am very tired of the imperialism and policing of the world but at the same time I understand the administrations motives.

Fast and furious? Who cares?
 

Jack Fate

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You made two claims that I contended against, and they were Obama's policies "made things worse" and "We will bounce back as soon as we take out all the trash that is stinking up the place."

I already refuted the first in the other thread, I'm still waiting for your evidence on the second.

Also, healthcare costs go up every year; This year is no different and you cannot judge Obamacare until data is out (about a decades worth will do).

The private sector invested more into Solyndra than the government did, and the government invested billions in clean energy - half a billion is less than 1% of their total portfolio in the industry... Big deal...

Libya? I'm indifferent TBH, I am very tired of the imperialism and policing of the world but at the same time I understand the administrations motives.

Fast and furious? Who cares?
Obama said insurance rates would not go up. They did. failure.

Obama was warned that Solyndra was going to go bankrupt. He went ahead. Failure.

You may be indifferent about Libya, but he did say what he said. Failure.

How about Gitmo? As far as taking the trash out, I stand by that. That's my opinion. I don't need to back up an opinion. And yes, Obama's policies made thing worse. Why in the world are his approval numbers falling?
 

dukeanthony

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Can Anyone tell me what teh Official US policy towards Libya has been since the 80s when they were Killing our Civilians and servicemen?

Can anyone tell me what the Constitution says about supporting our allies and honoring Treaties?
 
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