Stark Raving
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LOL, no man, I wasn't. You musta broke out the good stuff before you read that post bro! But I'll still blaze one with you in a church parking lot anytime.
Do you believe the Bible word for word?
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eye exaggerate
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...in looking at the title of the thread, I have to ask what the meaning of 'believe' is. It may be true that belief means different things to different people. I read somewhere that there are different kinds of spiritual people, spanning variations of intelligence (IQ and EQ maybe?). Somehow 'photosynthesis' has meaning in this argument in a purely metaphorical sense... which to me equates to how much light development has occurred in the individual. In a more scientific scenario, lets say that there is a group of very scientific people *right here*, not all of them will be able to grasp all the material provided in a lecture (f.e.), but all would still be considered 'scientific', or at least, having a scientific bent.
...also, I'm sure that 'words' have evolved too. If I remember correctly, words were at one time pictograms mimicking human postures, etc. That tells me a lot. JUST ME.
...also, I'm sure that 'words' have evolved too. If I remember correctly, words were at one time pictograms mimicking human postures, etc. That tells me a lot. JUST ME.
ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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i dont believe one word of the bible, i think its fictional .
i think the bible is the least believable out of all the different religious books .
i think the bible is the least believable out of all the different religious books .
ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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eye exagg ..............you are typical of a religious person you claim everything is interpretated differently , when it is not , we have a language we use so that we interprate things the same as each other , how come you dont interpratete every day things so differently to other people ? it seems when it comes to religion , you suddenly have a different interpratation than anyone else lol
Stark Raving
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Not to be overly confrontational, but "context" and "interpretation" are classic excuses for the nasty, unbelievable things in the bible. When these excuses are used it voids the possibility of reasonable debate on the subject. The "it's a metaphor" argument just drives me crazy. What kind of lesson can we learn from things like sending your daughters into an angry mob to be raped? How can the story of Lot be interpreted to be anything other than horrific?
eye exaggerate
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eye exaggerate
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...to me, these stories show something, they paint a picture in my mind of a human condition. In some respects, that condition is one that we all share. I also see the stories as processes of the human body. Sorry, I really don't mean anything 'smart ass' by what I say. It's my current understanding and that's it.
ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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i prefer to call it clutching straws
eye exaggerate
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ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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ok peace for friday , ill smoke a resin hit to celebrate
eye exaggerate
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...sweet, thanks. ...and a 2 chamber water pipe for good measure.
Gotta love those glass blowers - great art.
eye exaggerate
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...tax all equally, or tax none. I get this. Can I ask how far back carbon dating goes? Besides, no one 'really' knows what a 'year' represented in the bible. For all anyone knows (cause no one here was there) a year is a full procession of the equinoxes.
Yakgreenies
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theres def some kind of higher power then us
Stark Raving
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But once again, interpretation is rescuing you from having to answer to the inadequacies of the bible. "How long was a bible year?" It was the same as a present day year until you can provide some contradictory evidence.
eye exaggerate
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...is carbon dating a matter of interpretation? If carbon dating was exact, science would have proven it's 'point' by now. Here's another 'point', that of your own reference.
Stark Raving
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But carbon dating isn't exact, nor does anyone who understands it claim that it is. Carbon dating is an approximation. A very accurate approximation.
Scientists don't interpret carbon dating, they analyze the available data, then make an approximate conclusion based on that data.
....and for the record, carbon dating is only one of many ways to demonstrate the approximate age of fossils/the earth etc. All these methods use information, as opposed to conjecture and "interpretation". Science HAS proven it's point. The earth is billions of years old. Plus, even if we didn't have a way of measuring the approximate age of things via things like carbon dating, would that prove the existence of god? Science does not provide all the answers, but that's the beauty of science: it's allowed to be wrong. It's allowed to not have the answers. That in no way demonstrates the accuracy of the bible. Now we're getting into the "God of the gaps" argument, and that would be a complete derail of the thread.
Scientists don't interpret carbon dating, they analyze the available data, then make an approximate conclusion based on that data.
....and for the record, carbon dating is only one of many ways to demonstrate the approximate age of fossils/the earth etc. All these methods use information, as opposed to conjecture and "interpretation". Science HAS proven it's point. The earth is billions of years old. Plus, even if we didn't have a way of measuring the approximate age of things via things like carbon dating, would that prove the existence of god? Science does not provide all the answers, but that's the beauty of science: it's allowed to be wrong. It's allowed to not have the answers. That in no way demonstrates the accuracy of the bible. Now we're getting into the "God of the gaps" argument, and that would be a complete derail of the thread.
eye exaggerate
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...but this should also be the point of the 'religious' - they are also wrong on many levels and need to learn. That, to me, should describe any human being. I do not disagree with that at all.
ThE sAtIvA hIgH
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no there definately isnt , how can u make such a claim ? what evidence are you holding back oh mighty one ?