Michigan Growers Tell Your Plans for This Year
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hammer6913
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i went out yesterday and checked the girls.. they look fine turning a little purple. no bud rot at this time.. but they dont seem to be fillin out much.. hopin to feed them soon. it looks like this weekend is supposed to be descent. hope so want to get a scooter ride.
james42
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Its supposed to be windy as hell thursday night and friday. Then a warm up and sunny skies for next week. Who knows though, they have been changing the forecast daily. Ive been looking at accuweathers 15 day forecast and it looks promissing. Its hardly ever accurate but at least it gives me hope.
I went out to feed my other smaller crop last night and had to clip one moldy bud there too.
I went out to feed my other smaller crop last night and had to clip one moldy bud there too.
hammer6913
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they never get the weather right. effen rainin hard here now. no bud rot as of yet. i shake em off every morn. got my finners crossed for everyone.
Green Dave
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Well the efin wind got most of the girls and one of them behind my house (DAMN IT)
I stopped by hics house and no one around, didnt poke around much could see the GreenHouse and didnt look like there was anything in there
No idea what happened and no way to find out as I dont know his last name to search ( still hopeing hes around)
I stopped by hics house and no one around, didnt poke around much could see the GreenHouse and didnt look like there was anything in there
No idea what happened and no way to find out as I dont know his last name to search ( still hopeing hes around)
Shwagbag
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That is not very good news GD. I know narcotics investigators did fly overs in my local area and called any greenhouses in to local dispatch to send sheriffs to their residence. Sheriffs did a complete inspection and took several people off to jail. If Hic wasn't in line with the law they could have taken him away but it still doesn't add up because you would think he would be out on bail, assuming that is the only offense. Thanks for the update, hopefully we hear from Hic again someday.
hammer6913
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i agree with u james. he would have bailed out by now. my wifes x got busted with 93 plants and still hasnt seen jail yet. and hes not the type to rat on friends. so who knows what is going on. i didnt get anywhere going to town.. hopefully we do hear from him again.;.
i used to bow hunt like a maniac..me and my buds but there gone now and my back wont allow me to hunt and no boat sittin. only thing left is the medws and my bikes and friends..
backwoodsburner
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I’ve been growing outdoors in the Macomb area for many years. Michigan soil can be very hard to work with due to its high clay levels and high ph. But i think I’ve found an optimal nutrient formula. I’ve used this this countless times with great results. Dense buds, loads of trechs, and vibrant green and purple buds.
All H2O should be have a PH of between 6.5 and 7.0
Veg- 10 Weeks
Superthrive-5ML per gallon. Every watering.
Alaska fish (5-1-1)-5ML per gallon. Every two watering’s.
Epsom salt-5ML per gallon. Once per week
Bloom-6 weeks
Awesome blossoms (2-11-11)-Start at 15ML per gallon, every two weeks lower amount by 5ML ending at 5ML per gallon at week 6 of flowering.
B. Seaweed (0-0-1)-10Ml per gallon every two watering’s.
Hygrozyme-10ML per gallon. Every watering.
Use 7.0 H2O and Grotek Final Flush For the first two weeks of September and harvest at the end of the second week.
PURE DANK!!!
All H2O should be have a PH of between 6.5 and 7.0
Veg- 10 Weeks
Superthrive-5ML per gallon. Every watering.
Alaska fish (5-1-1)-5ML per gallon. Every two watering’s.
Epsom salt-5ML per gallon. Once per week
Bloom-6 weeks
Awesome blossoms (2-11-11)-Start at 15ML per gallon, every two weeks lower amount by 5ML ending at 5ML per gallon at week 6 of flowering.
B. Seaweed (0-0-1)-10Ml per gallon every two watering’s.
Hygrozyme-10ML per gallon. Every watering.
Use 7.0 H2O and Grotek Final Flush For the first two weeks of September and harvest at the end of the second week.
PURE DANK!!!
rzza
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delstele
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Well fuck.........!!!!!!!!!!!
Green Dave
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Really couldnt tell just no answer at the door
As I said didnt poke around , just knocked a few times and left there was some stuff around the yard but know one around
Im at a loss to what has become of hic
As I said didnt poke around , just knocked a few times and left there was some stuff around the yard but know one around
Im at a loss to what has become of hic
james42
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http://michiganmedicalmarijuana.org/topic/34925-the-sky-isnt-falling/
I was doing some reading and thought this was interesting
I was doing some reading and thought this was interesting
firelane
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Well the wind got two of my big plants. They were snapped in half and laying on the ground when I went to check on them. They weren't too premature though so it isn't too bad. They were about 2 weeks from being finished. I also cut two of the cheese plants that were finished and they are looking great. The one in the greenhouse had a little mold damage, but not as bad as I was worried. Also that was the only mold in the garden this year, so overall it was a success. This was one busy weekend but I am done trimming for now. I have two plants left growing, one is huge, and the other is small. This year turned out great for me though, so really I can't complain. Me, my family, and my friends will be smoking good for a while.
I am so curious as to what happened to hic.
I am so curious as to what happened to hic.
Green Dave
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Congrats firelane
Yea I really worry about hic hes a top notch guy
Yea I really worry about hic hes a top notch guy
hammer6913
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great job firelane. yup the wind was vicious the other day. gongrats on a greaat hasrvest.
hammer6913
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Higher Ground
One for the Teamsters
The question of organizing medical marijuana workers was bound to come up
By Larry Gabriel
Published: May 18, 2011
Good old union-label marijuana.
That notion may seem a bit fantastic. When union members and marijuana come up in the same sentence it's usually embarrassing to the union. But change is in the air along with the marijuana smoke. As the business of medical marijuana burgeons across the country last week Delaware became the 16th state to legalize medical marijuana and employs more people, the question of union organizing was bound to be called. Last week, Teamsters Local Council 43 announced that it had answered the call and organized 23 workers at three locations of Michigan's Blue Water Compassion Center through a card check process.
Card check is a fairly uncontentious organizing process in which workers sign cards indicating their union support rather than the traditional election. Employers agree to recognize a union as the representative if more than 50 percent of workers sign cards. At Blue Water, 22 of 23 workers signed cards in support of Teamster representation. They will join the 1.4-million-strong Teamsters union as members of Local 1038.
"They just feel that they would have more clout belonging to the Teamsters union," said Marian Novak, an organizer for Teamsters Joint Council 43. "As far as issues: just job security. That's what everyone is worried about these days."
These days union job security tends to mean seniority rules when it comes to layoffs and due process when it comes to firing workers.
The idea of union marijuana workers sounds like the kind of thing that could only happen in California. Not surprisingly, it has happened there. The Teamsters already represent a handful of marijuana workers in Oakland and the United Food and Commercial Workers union represents some too. There has been something of a gentleman's agreement there wherein Teamsters organize among production workers and UFCW works with retail workers.
Maybe their theme could be "Henry" the old Riders of the Purple Sage song about a fellow driving a truckload of marijuana in from Acapulco. But these new California Teamsters aren't truck drivers. They're growers, trimmers and cloners. Cloning is the process whereby a branch cut from a plant grows roots and makes a genetically identical copy of the original plant. Trimmers cut the marijuana leaf from around the THC-rich bud that provides the most powerful marijuana effects.
Blue Water's three locations are in Kimball, Lexington Heights and Richville in Michigan's thumb area. It's not clear exactly what kinds of jobs workers at Blue Water do, but the Teamsters press release said that they provide "support" for their customers. When I called the Kimball location, the person who answered the telephone declined an interview, but he did say that "we understand" the wide impact that organizing could have in the marijuana industry. "The Teamsters have always been into wide-scale organizing, willing to go across jurisdictional lines," says John Beck, director of Labor Education at Michigan State University. "When they see opportunity to organize, they organize. All unions now have to be more broad-based to survive, and the Teamsters were there before anybody else was willing to be there."
There don't seem to have been any particularly heated issues at Blue Water. Some of the workers there were formerly union members at previous jobs and believe in the benefits of working under a union contract. And I have to think some of their clients are union members too. So far they haven't negotiated a contract, but if Oakland is the model, it will include health insurance and pension benefits. Hmm ... so far insurance companies don't cover the cost of medical marijuana, but could that change if it's your in-house pharmaceutical?
Another question that comes to my mind is what, if any, impact union membership might have made in the Oakland County dispensary busts that took place last August and are currently in pretrial limbo. First of all, a union shop would want to run according to the letter of the law. I am not saying the Oakland County locations were not following the law. All of the marijuana advocate organizations urge medical marijuana facilities to strictly follow the law, and a union would be expected to put work rules in writing that keep its members safely inside of what is legally allowed.
Of course, with a sheriff's department making fake identification cards and obviously out to entrap you, having those rules might not have made a difference. But Lou Marchetti, a business agent for Teamsters Local 70 in Oakland, Calif., points out another way union membership could have made a difference in such a situation.
"We would try to work politically," he says. "We would use our political influence to find out what they were planning and say to our members, 'Hey, this is what they're doing.'"
Marchetti means the union would use its political contacts to understand how law enforcement was going to interpret the law and what was and wasn't going to be tolerated.
And if the busts went down anyway, Novak says: "We do everything to protect our members. That's what the Teamsters are about, and we would take appropriate action for our membership."
So consider the tactic of sending people wearing clothing with medical marijuana emblems and slogans to courthouse entrances on days of hearings for marijuana defendants. This tactic is to let potential jurors know that the defendant is a medical marijuana patient or caregiver in cases where the judge has ruled that the medical marijuana defense cannot be used. Now imagine several hundred Teamsters joining the demonstration. There is power in numbers.
Owners of marijuana-related facilities could fight organizing among its workers, or they could embrace it and see the union as partners in getting the industry established. Almost everything gets bigger when a 1.4 million strong organization gets behind you. Not to mention the customer base. I hear some of those Teamsters have severe back pain from lifting heavy packages.
All the toking Teamster jokes aside, and the shaky nature of a new industry, it came down to basics for Marchetti: "They're workers. They're working at a place and haven't been busted. They're working within the existing laws in California. They approached us about organizing. We organized them and got a contract."
That's pretty straightforward. I'm guessing that we'll see more union organizing in the world of marijuana from producers of equipment (lights, hydroponic systems) to growers and retail sales. It's a mostly place-specific industry. There are only 16 states where medical marijuana is legal so it would be difficult to pack up and move elsewhere with your business. And I don't think they're allowing truckloads of the substance across state lines.
Maybe the old International Ladies Garment Workers Union anthem will be appropriate and medical marijuana patients will be able to "look for the union label" when purchasing their medication.
One for the Teamsters
The question of organizing medical marijuana workers was bound to come up
By Larry Gabriel
Published: May 18, 2011
Good old union-label marijuana.
That notion may seem a bit fantastic. When union members and marijuana come up in the same sentence it's usually embarrassing to the union. But change is in the air along with the marijuana smoke. As the business of medical marijuana burgeons across the country last week Delaware became the 16th state to legalize medical marijuana and employs more people, the question of union organizing was bound to be called. Last week, Teamsters Local Council 43 announced that it had answered the call and organized 23 workers at three locations of Michigan's Blue Water Compassion Center through a card check process.
Card check is a fairly uncontentious organizing process in which workers sign cards indicating their union support rather than the traditional election. Employers agree to recognize a union as the representative if more than 50 percent of workers sign cards. At Blue Water, 22 of 23 workers signed cards in support of Teamster representation. They will join the 1.4-million-strong Teamsters union as members of Local 1038.
"They just feel that they would have more clout belonging to the Teamsters union," said Marian Novak, an organizer for Teamsters Joint Council 43. "As far as issues: just job security. That's what everyone is worried about these days."
These days union job security tends to mean seniority rules when it comes to layoffs and due process when it comes to firing workers.
The idea of union marijuana workers sounds like the kind of thing that could only happen in California. Not surprisingly, it has happened there. The Teamsters already represent a handful of marijuana workers in Oakland and the United Food and Commercial Workers union represents some too. There has been something of a gentleman's agreement there wherein Teamsters organize among production workers and UFCW works with retail workers.
Maybe their theme could be "Henry" the old Riders of the Purple Sage song about a fellow driving a truckload of marijuana in from Acapulco. But these new California Teamsters aren't truck drivers. They're growers, trimmers and cloners. Cloning is the process whereby a branch cut from a plant grows roots and makes a genetically identical copy of the original plant. Trimmers cut the marijuana leaf from around the THC-rich bud that provides the most powerful marijuana effects.
Blue Water's three locations are in Kimball, Lexington Heights and Richville in Michigan's thumb area. It's not clear exactly what kinds of jobs workers at Blue Water do, but the Teamsters press release said that they provide "support" for their customers. When I called the Kimball location, the person who answered the telephone declined an interview, but he did say that "we understand" the wide impact that organizing could have in the marijuana industry. "The Teamsters have always been into wide-scale organizing, willing to go across jurisdictional lines," says John Beck, director of Labor Education at Michigan State University. "When they see opportunity to organize, they organize. All unions now have to be more broad-based to survive, and the Teamsters were there before anybody else was willing to be there."
There don't seem to have been any particularly heated issues at Blue Water. Some of the workers there were formerly union members at previous jobs and believe in the benefits of working under a union contract. And I have to think some of their clients are union members too. So far they haven't negotiated a contract, but if Oakland is the model, it will include health insurance and pension benefits. Hmm ... so far insurance companies don't cover the cost of medical marijuana, but could that change if it's your in-house pharmaceutical?
Another question that comes to my mind is what, if any, impact union membership might have made in the Oakland County dispensary busts that took place last August and are currently in pretrial limbo. First of all, a union shop would want to run according to the letter of the law. I am not saying the Oakland County locations were not following the law. All of the marijuana advocate organizations urge medical marijuana facilities to strictly follow the law, and a union would be expected to put work rules in writing that keep its members safely inside of what is legally allowed.
Of course, with a sheriff's department making fake identification cards and obviously out to entrap you, having those rules might not have made a difference. But Lou Marchetti, a business agent for Teamsters Local 70 in Oakland, Calif., points out another way union membership could have made a difference in such a situation.
"We would try to work politically," he says. "We would use our political influence to find out what they were planning and say to our members, 'Hey, this is what they're doing.'"
Marchetti means the union would use its political contacts to understand how law enforcement was going to interpret the law and what was and wasn't going to be tolerated.
And if the busts went down anyway, Novak says: "We do everything to protect our members. That's what the Teamsters are about, and we would take appropriate action for our membership."
So consider the tactic of sending people wearing clothing with medical marijuana emblems and slogans to courthouse entrances on days of hearings for marijuana defendants. This tactic is to let potential jurors know that the defendant is a medical marijuana patient or caregiver in cases where the judge has ruled that the medical marijuana defense cannot be used. Now imagine several hundred Teamsters joining the demonstration. There is power in numbers.
Owners of marijuana-related facilities could fight organizing among its workers, or they could embrace it and see the union as partners in getting the industry established. Almost everything gets bigger when a 1.4 million strong organization gets behind you. Not to mention the customer base. I hear some of those Teamsters have severe back pain from lifting heavy packages.
All the toking Teamster jokes aside, and the shaky nature of a new industry, it came down to basics for Marchetti: "They're workers. They're working at a place and haven't been busted. They're working within the existing laws in California. They approached us about organizing. We organized them and got a contract."
That's pretty straightforward. I'm guessing that we'll see more union organizing in the world of marijuana from producers of equipment (lights, hydroponic systems) to growers and retail sales. It's a mostly place-specific industry. There are only 16 states where medical marijuana is legal so it would be difficult to pack up and move elsewhere with your business. And I don't think they're allowing truckloads of the substance across state lines.
Maybe the old International Ladies Garment Workers Union anthem will be appropriate and medical marijuana patients will be able to "look for the union label" when purchasing their medication.
