Big Brother Gives Infraction For Believing Homosexuality Is Wrong

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Carne Seca

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I don't know where you got that bottom picture, but we both know that is not how American children pledge allegiance to the American flag. That's propaganda.
So now you doubt your own eyeballs. Maybe you should pluck them out since they offend you. It's biblical. You should do it.
 

UncleBuck

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No, you don't have to. Let me ask you a question....When you attend a sporting event or anywhere they play the National Anthem, do you remove your cap?
i can't remember the last one i went to, but i bet i did.

not that removing your hat or putting your hand over your heart is a pre-requisite for loving your country or being proud of it.
 

UncleBuck

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That teacher is damn lucky the parents of the little boy are Christians. If the boy's father had been someone else, he might have waited until the little coward faggot came out of the gay bar and beat the living shit out of him for treating his son like that. Who in the hell do you people think you are? These are our children, not the state's.
yeah, because christians never do violent things.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-abortion_violence

United States
The majority of anti-abortion violence has been committed in the United States.[citation needed]
Murders
In the U.S., violence directed towards abortion providers has killed at least eight people, including four doctors, two clinic employees, a security guard, and a clinic escort.[8][9]
March 10, 1993: Dr. David Gunn of Pensacola, Florida was fatally shot during a protest. He had been the subject of wanted-style posters distributed by Operation Rescue in the summer of 1992. Michael F. Griffin was found guilty of Gunn's murder and was sentenced to life in prison.
July 29, 1994: Dr. John Britton and James Barrett, a clinic escort, were both shot to death outside another facility in Pensacola. Rev. Paul Jennings Hill was charged with the killings. Hill received a death sentence and was executed on September 3, 2003.
December 30, 1994: Two receptionists, Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols, were killed in two clinic attacks in Brookline, Massachusetts. John Salvi was arrested and confessed to the killings. He died in prison and guards found his body under his bed with a plastic garbage bag tied around his head. Salvi had also confessed to a non-lethal attack in Norfolk, Virginia days before the Brookline killings.
January 29, 1998: Robert Sanderson, an off-duty police officer who worked as a security guard at an abortion clinic in Birmingham, Alabama, was killed when his workplace was bombed. Eric Robert Rudolph, who was also responsible for the 1996 Centennial Olympic Park bombing, was charged with the crime and received two life sentences as a result.
October 23, 1998: Dr. Barnett Slepian was shot to death with a high-powered rifle at his home in Amherst, New York.[10] His was the last in a series of similar shootings against providers in Canada and northern New York state which were all likely committed by James Kopp. Kopp was convicted of Slepian's murder after finally being apprehended in France in 2001.
May 31, 2009: Dr. George Tiller was shot and killed by Scott Roeder as Tiller served as an usher at church in Wichita, Kansas.[11]
Attempted murder, assault, and kidnapping
According to statistics gathered by the National Abortion Federation (NAF), an organization of abortion providers, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, there have been 17 attempted murders, 383 death threats, 153 incidents of assault or battery, and 3 kidnappings committed against abortion providers.[12] Attempted murders in the U.S. included:[8][13][14]
August 19, 1993: Dr. George Tiller was shot outside of an abortion facility in Wichita, Kansas. Shelley Shannon was charged with the crime and received an 11-year prison sentence (20 years were later added for arson and acid attacks on clinics).
July 29, 1994: June Barret was shot in the same attack which claimed the lives of James Barrett, her husband, and Dr. John Britton.
December 30, 1994: Five individuals were wounded in the shootings which killed Shannon Lowney and Lee Ann Nichols.
October 28, 1997: Dr. David Gandell of Rochester, New York was injured by flying glass when a shot was fired through the window of his home.[15]
January 29, 1998: Emily Lyons, a nurse, was severely injured, and lost an eye, in the bombing which also killed Robert Sanderson.
Arson, bombing, and property crime
According to NAF, since 1977 in the United States and Canada, property crimes committed against abortion providers have included 41 bombings, 173 arsons, 91 attempted bombings or arsons, 619 bomb threats, 1630 incidents of trespassing, 1264 incidents of vandalism, and 100 attacks with butyric acid ("stink bombs").[12] The New York Times also cites over one hundred clinic bombings and incidents of arson, over three hundred invasions, and over four hundred incidents of vandalism between 1978 and 1993.[16] The first clinic arson occurred in Oregon in March 1976 and the first bombing occurred in February 1978 in Ohio.[17] Incidents have included:
December 25, 1984: An abortion clinic and two physicians' offices in Pensacola, Florida were bombed in the early morning of Christmas Day by a quartet of young people (Matt Goldsby, Jimmy Simmons, Kathy Simmons, Kaye Wiggins) who later called the bombings "a gift to Jesus on his birthday."[18][19][20]
May 21, 1998: Three people were injured when acid was poured at the entrances of five abortion clinics in Miami, Florida.[21]
October 1999: Martin Uphoff set fire to a Planned Parenthood clinic in Sioux Falls, South Dakota, causing US$100 worth of damage. He was later sentenced to 60 months in prison.[22]
May 28, 2000: An arson at a clinic in Concord, New Hampshire resulted in several thousand dollars' worth of damage. The case remains unsolved.[23][24][25] This was the second arson at the clinic.[26]
September 30, 2000: John Earl, a Catholic priest, drove his car into the Northern Illinois Health Clinic after learning that the FDA had approved the drug RU-486. He pulled out an ax before being forced to the ground by the owner of the building who fired two warning shots from a shotgun.[27]
June 11, 2001: An unsolved bombing at a clinic in Tacoma, Washington destroyed a wall, resulting in US$6000 in damages.[22]
July 4, 2005: A clinic Palm Beach, Florida was the target of an arson. The case remains open.[22]
December 12, 2005: Patricia Hughes and Jeremy Dunahoe threw a Molotov cocktail at a clinic in Shreveport, Louisiana. The device missed the building and no damage was caused. In August 2006, Hughes was sentenced to six years in prison, and Dunahoe to one year. Hughes claimed the bomb was a "memorial lamp" for an abortion she had had there.[28]
September 13, 2006 David McMenemy of Rochester Hills, Michigan, crashed his car into the Edgerton Women's Care Center in Davenport, Iowa. He then doused the lobby in gasoline and started a fire. McMenemy committed these acts in the belief that the center was performing abortions; however, Edgerton is not an abortion clinic.[29] Time Magazine listed the incident in a "Top 10 Inept Terrorist Plots" list.[30]
April 25, 2007: A package left at a women's health clinic in Austin, Texas, contained an explosive device capable of inflicting serious injury or death. A bomb squad detonated the device after evacuating the building. Paul Ross Evans (who had a criminal record for armed robbery and theft) was found guilty of the crime.[31]
December 6, 2007: Chad Altman and Sergio Baca were arrested for the arson of Dr. Curtis Boyd's clinic in Albuquerque. Altman's girlfriend had scheduled an appointment for an abortion at the clinic.[32][33]
Anthrax threats
The first hoax letters claiming to contain anthrax were mailed to U.S. clinics in October 1998, a few days after the Slepian shooting; since then, there have been 655 such bioterror threats made against abortion providers. None of the "anthrax" in these cases was real.[13][34]
November 2001: After the genuine 2001 anthrax attacks, Clayton Waagner mailed hoax letters containing a white powder to 554 clinics. On December 3, 2003, Waagner was convicted of 51 charges relating to the anthrax scare.
Outside the United States
Outside of the United States, known incidents of anti-abortion violence were committed in Australia, Canada and New Zealand.
Australia
July 16, 2001: Steven Rogers, a security guard at a clinic in Melbourne, Australia was shot in the chest and killed by Peter James Knight. Knight was charged and was sentenced to life in prison on November 19, 2002.[35]
January 6, 2009: A firebombing using Molotov cocktails was attempted at a medical clinic in Mosman Park, Western Australia. Faulty construction of the bombs limited damage to a single external burnt area, though if successful damage would have been severe. It is believed that the inviduals who made the attack were responsible for graffiti "baby killers" on the site, indicating a pro-life reason for the attack. The site turned out to in fact not be an abortion clinic, though the attackers most likely were not aware of this.[36]
Canada
Attempted murder
Violence has also occurred in Canada, where three doctors have been attacked to date. There is speculation that the timing of the shootings is related to the Canadian observance of Remembrance Day. The physicians were part of a pattern of attacks, which targeted providers in Canada and upstate New York, including Dr. Barnett Slepian. All victims were shot, or shot at, in their homes with a rifle, at dusk or in the morning, in late October or early November.
A joint Canadian-F.B.I. task force investigating the shootings was not formed until December 1997 -- three years after the first attack. A task force coordinator, Inspector David Bowen of the Hamilton-Wentworth Regional Police, complained that the Canadian Government was not adequately financing the investigation. Inspector Bowen said the task force, largely financed by the communities where the shootings occurred, has "operated on a shoestring" with a budget of $100,000. He said he requested more funds in July that would raise its budget to $250,000. Federal officials rejected the request on Oct. 15, a week before Dr. Slepian was killed. Inspector Bowen said that there hadn't been funding to follow up potential leads.[10]
James Kopp was charged with the murder of Dr. Slepian and the attempted murder of Dr. Short; he is suspected of having committed the other shootings as well.[13][14]
November 8, 1994: Dr. Garson Romalis, 57, of Vancouver, British Columbia was shot and seriously wounded. In 1994, a sniper fired two bullets into the home of Dr. Garson Romalis, who was eating breakfast. One hit his thigh, destroyed some of his muscles, broke his femur and damaged his femoral artery. Dr. Romalis saved his own life by using his bathrobe belt as a tourniquet. Dr. Romalis still performs abortions and has become more outspoken about abortion rights since he was shot, citing the harm done to women by illegal abortion and the thousands of cases of septic abortion that came to his hospital in residency.[10][37]
November 10, 1995: Dr. Hugh Short, 62, of Ancaster, Ontario was shot. A sniper's bullet fired into his home shattered his elbow and ended his surgical career. Dr. Short was not a high-profile target: it was not widely known that he did abortions. [10]
November 11, 1997: Dr. Jack Fainman, 66, of Winnipeg, Manitoba was shot. A gunman fired through the back window of Fainman's riverbank home in Winnipeg about 9 p.m. and struck him in the right shoulder, inches from his heart. The police would not comment on whether Dr. Fainman, who has declined interview requests since the attack, is still performing abortions.[10]
July 11, 2000: Dr. Romalis was stabbed by an unidentified assailant in the lobby of his clinic.[37]
Bombing and property damage
February 25, 1990: Two men broke into a clinic in Vancouver and destroyed $C30,000 worth of medical equipment with crowbars.[38]
May 18, 1992: A Toronto clinic operated by Henry Morgentaler was firebombed, causing the entire front wall of the building to collapse.[39] The Morgentaler Clinic on Harbord Street in Toronto was firebombed during the night by two people (caught on security camera) using gasoline and a firework to set off the explosion.[40] The next day, clinic management announced that the firebombing failed to prevent any abortions, since all scheduled abortions were carried out in alternative locations. A portion of a the Toronto Women's Bookstore, next door, was damaged. No one was hurt but the building had to be demolished. On the day after the firebombing, Morgentaler came to inspect the damage and a crowd of abortion-rights supporters appeared at the clinic with signs that read, "Just Say No to Bombs." As a result of the arson, the Ontario government decided to spent $420,000 on improved security for abortion clinics. At the time, all four free-standing clinics in Ontario were in Toronto. The government wanted to gather information about activities by pro-life sympathizers; at the time, law enforcement agencies in Canada did not collect statistics about harassment and violence against abortion providers, their clinics, or their clients.[40]
New Zealand
In 1999, Graeme White was found guilty and jailed for tunneling into an abortion clinic in a failed attempt to blow it up.
Violence by Army of God

Main article: Army of God
The Army of God, an underground terrorist organization active in the United States, has been responsible for a substantial amount of anti-abortion violence. In addition to numerous property crimes, the group has committed acts of kidnapping, attempted murder, and murder. In August 1982, three men identifying as the Army of God kidnapped Hector Zevallos (a doctor and clinic owner) and his wife, Rosalee Jean, holding them for eight days.[41] In 1993, Shelly Shannon, a very active member of the Army of God, was found guilty for the attempted murder of Dr. George Tiller.[42] That same year, law enforcement officials found the Army of God Manual, a tactical guide to arson, chemical attacks, invasions, and bombings buried in Shelly Shannon's backyard.[41] Paul Jennings Hill was found guilty of the murder of both Dr. John Britton and clinic escort James Barrett. The Army of God justified his actions on the grounds that "whatever force is legitimate to defend the life of a born child is legitimate to defend the life of an unborn child... if in fact Paul Hill did kill or wound abortionist John Britton, and accomplices James Barrett and Mrs. Barrett, his actions are morally justified if they were necessary for the purpose of defending innocent human life".[13] The AOG claimed responsibility for Eric Robert Rudolph's 1997 shrapnel bombing of abortion clinics in Atlanta and Birmingham.[43]
Physician "wanted" posters

In the late 1990s, an organization called American Coalition of Life Activists (ACLA) was accused of implicitly advocating violence by its publication on its "Nuremberg Files" website of wanted-style posters, which featured a photograph of a physician who performed abortions along with a monetary reward for any information that would lead to his "arrest, conviction, and revocation of license to practice medicine".[44] The ACLA's website described these physicians as war criminals[45] and accused them of committing "crimes against humanity". The web site also published names, home addresses, telephone numbers, and other personal information regarding abortion providers – highlighting the names of those who had been wounded and striking out those of who had been killed. Dr. George Tiller's name was included on this list along with many others. The site was accused of being a thinly-veiled hit list intended to incite violence; others claimed that it was protected under the First Amendment of the United States Constitution.[46] A 9th Circuit Court of Appeals decision finally shut the site down in 2002 after a prolonged debate.[47]
 

Jack Fate

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i can't remember the last one i went to, but i bet i did.

not that removing your hat or putting your hand over your heart is a pre-requisite for loving your country or being proud of it.
Of course your removed your cap. It's called respect. This country needs to get back to respecting each other.
 

UncleBuck

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That teacher is damn lucky the parents of the little boy are Christians. If the boy's father had been someone else, he might have waited until the little coward faggot came out of the gay bar and beat the living shit out of him for treating his son like that. Who in the hell do you people think you are? These are our children, not the state's.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Army_of_God_(USA)

Army of God (AOG) is a Christian terrorist anti-abortion organization that sanctions the use of force to combat abortion in the United States. HBO produced a documentary on the Army Of God entitled Soldiers In The Army Of God.[1]

The earliest documented incidence of the Army of God being involved with anti-abortion activity occurred in 1982. Three men associated with the organization held Hector Zevallos, an abortion doctor, and his wife, Rosalee Jean, hostage. The hostages were later released unharmed. [2] The "East Coast division" of the AOG claimed responsibility when three men, including Michael Bray, planted bombs at seven abortion clinics in Maryland, Virginia, and Washington D.C. in 1985.[3]

The AOG claimed responsibility for Eric Robert Rudolph's 1997 nail bombing of abortion clinics in Atlanta and Birmingham as well as an Atlanta lesbian bar.[4]

Clayton Waagner, claiming to act on the part of the "Virginia Dare Chapter" of the AOG, mailed over 500 letters containing white powder to 280 abortion providers in 2001. The letters claimed that the powder was anthrax; though it was not identified as such, the tactic took advantage of the public's fear of biological warfare after the recent real anthrax attacks.

The group is also associated with a number of assassinations of abortion providers. Some of these assassins, such as Shelley Shannon, claimed association with the AOG; in other cases, while the assassin expressed no affiliation with the group, the AOG has lionized their acts and taken up their cause.
why have i NEVER heard you condemn christian terrorists? why only muslim terrorists?
 

UncleBuck

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Of course your removed your cap. It's called respect. This country needs to get back to respecting each other.
respect is earned.

i have no obligation to respect fundamentalists and extremists that denigrate their fellow citizens for being born a certain way.
 

UncleBuck

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First of all, Wikipedia is not a scholarly site and even the founder doesn't recommend it for college papers.

Second, of course Christians do violent acts. You really have made no point at all. Lucky for the faggot teacher that this kid didn't have a father who took offense to some litlte whiney faggot pushing his agenda in a school that the father pays for with his hard earned taxes. You wonder why people get upset? Think about it.

Teach German and leave the gay agenda in the gay bar or his bedroom. Pictures of two men kissing do not belong on a class room wall. Period.
slurs and bigotry such as you are displaying have no place on this board.
 

Jack Fate

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respect is earned.

i have no obligation to respect fundamentalists and extremists that denigrate their fellow citizens for being born a certain way.
That student didn't do anything wrong. He has the right to believe what he wants. This teacher crossed the line and he was rightfully reprimanded and now this teacher is under the spotlight where he belongs. This teacher needed to be reminded who the boss is. We are.

If you want to believe gays are born that way, then you have that right, but you don't have the right to punish a student who doesn't believe it. The state is not the authority. The parents pay for that school and they pay that teacher's salary. Who in the hell do you think you idiots are?
 

Carne Seca

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That statement shows how totally ignorant you really are.

That teacher is damn lucky the parents of the little boy are Christians. If the boy's father had been someone else, he might have waited until the little coward faggot came out of the gay bar and beat the living shit out of him for treating his son like that. Who in the hell do you people think you are? These are our children, not the state's.
Yes... I'M the ignorant one. Keep spouting those ignorant homophobic slurs. Show everyone how limited you are intellectually and morally. It's fun watching you hang yourself with your own rope.
 

UncleBuck

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Yes... I'M the ignorant one. Keep spouting those ignorant homophobic slurs. Show everyone how limited you are intellectually and morally. It's fun watching you hang yourself with your own rope.
normally, i delete or edit out slurs.

jack's words cross the line though and imply violence and terror.

he has been reported for such. my apologies to you for having to read such hatred, carne.
 

UncleBuck

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"Homophobic" my ass. LOL. You and Uncle Buck are Christophobic and post Christophobic slurs, so what's the difference? The difference is you're full of shit and I'm not. That teacher was wrong. Period. I know it's hard to accept, but the teacher was told to back off and now the teacher is being monitored. You lose, and yes, you are the ignorant one and so is the teacher.
i am not "christophobic".

i don't even think the guy ever existed. hard to hve a phobia against something or someone i don't believe to have ever existed.
 

NoDrama

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Yes, you are Christophobic. You're also a punk and a fraud. You have no business being a moderator on a political forum. You're also a sexual harrasser. I reported you for your PMs. You're a no good cocksucker.
You won't influence anyone to see your point of view if you don't just let it go bro. UB makes some pretty good arguments sometimes and like myself has a argumentative nature, you will have to get used to some people not agreeing with your points and just let it be. Calling people names usually doesn't help, although in my case I make my better friends that way.
 

UncleBuck

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Yes, you are Christophobic. You're also a punk and a fraud. You have no business being a moderator on a political forum. You're also a sexual harrasser. I reported you for your PMs. You're a no good cocksucker.
i COULD let you go on with your insults to show what a 'good christian' you are.

or i could do this: thread closed.

:bongsmilie:
 

budlover13

King Tut
Jack:

Please check the name-calling and slurs. It would be much appreciated and would give your position a little more credibility imo.

Juuuuust a suggestion.
 
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