UncleBuck
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If the kid had said....."I believe Christianity is wrong", would that be "hate speech"?
i was sent to the principal's office every day in 7th grade that i refused to recite "under god" in the pledge.
If the kid had said....."I believe Christianity is wrong", would that be "hate speech"?
Long before you were born but I have had my run-ins with "zero tolerance' when my son was in school. It is a fascist idea. Is this what people are paying taxes for? I've referred to public education as "places of indoctrination" before and this further proves my statement.
Pretty much like our government has been doing to us. It is conditioning. Get to 'em early, make 'em behave. You better "toe the line" or else...
What is your opinion of the teacher putting up a picture in the classroom of two men kissing and then telling children to accept it?
how often is too often? just how many times should we allow the authority of our public school system to tromp on the most basic rights of our children before we acknowledge that there is a problem? we bend over backward to accommodate their peculiarities and we celebrate their differences, but refuse them the simplest of basic human dignities. i'm so glad that neither your nor your sister had to witness or endure such things, but anecdotal denials are far from any proof that there is no systemic disease within our public education system. every few weeks we hear some story like this, quickly extinguished from the public consciousness and eradicated from the evening news. how many more instances go unnoticed and unremarked upon? i'd really like to know when y'all are going to quit making excuses for this shit? on this and similar sites i've seen posts screaming about the injustice of school officials refusing to allow such things as pot leaf motifs on student clothing, but the left merely shrugs off the silencing of anyone with which they disagree and actually attacking them if their stance is based on their christian faith.I'm sure we all agree the circumstances were excessive, but this is not common.....
You guys are blowing this out of proportion IMO.
i would rather he simply taught the language and the general culture, without indoctrinating them one way or the other. the proper response to this student would have been to simply agree to disagree or, better still, to have ignored the comment altogether, but that sort of thing just isn't allowed anymore. it is now seen as necessary for the development of the young for their teachers to enforce their own views upon them. i can just imagine your caterwauling, had it been the teacher who held these views and attempted to silence some pro-gay student.i do believe there are some gays in germany. would you rather the teacher 'indoctrinate' them into thinking that such is unacceptable?
...anecdotal denials are far from any proof that there is no systemic disease within our public education system. every few weeks we hear some story like this...
So... there is no First Amendment in PUBLIC schools?
i would rather he simply taught the language and the general culture, without indoctrinating them one way or the other. the proper response to this student would have been to simply agree to disagree or, better still, to have ignored the comment altogether, but that sort of thing just isn't allowed anymore. it is now seen as necessary for the development of the young for their teachers to enforce their own views upon them. i can just imagine your caterwauling, had it been the teacher who held these views and attempted to silence some pro-gay student.
want to now how i did that^^^^
YES! Damnit!
i was sent to the principal's office every day in 7th grade that i refused to recite "under god" in the pledge.
i would often point out while in the principal's office that simply saying the pledge of allegiance everyday is propaganda on par with what the hitler youth would do.
they didn't take kindly to that.
so let's flip the situation.
i am sitting in a german classroom, the teacher takes out a picture of two men kissing and says "this is happening all over the world, it is a part of our culture and theirs, and it is unacceptable".
damn straight i would be "caterwauling".
you seem to think there is some nobility in thinking of gays as "unacceptable".
btw, if i were the teacher, i would have punished the student simply for interrupting my class, regardless of what his comment was.
The children in the public school system do not belong to the state and they do not give up their constitutional rights when they enter the school. This teacher put up pictures on the classroom wall of two men kissing. Is this a class room or a gay bar?
If the teacher put up a picture of Jesus you would crap your pants.
You might have a point if the USA was Hitler's Germany, but it's not. Duh!!!!