How does cali trim buds there buds?

d.s.m.

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Do those things seal standard wide mouth jars? If so, I'm on it.
Yeah, they make one for wide mouth and one for standard. The one in the link is for wide mouth jars, and works perfectly with Kerr and Ball brand jars.

It also works good for evacuating the last of the butane out of honey oil, too.
 

dirtsurfr

Well-Known Member
In about a month I'll be Harvesting these..
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With this. took me a couple hrs to make.
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A little Bud Porn:leaf::leaf:
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collective gardener

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im from michiigan as well and i was wondering why all my patients are asking for me to trim like cali does, and all i can think of is how much chemical nutes and hardeners they must use out there... like someone already mentioned gravity...
Dan Kone hit it on the head, my man. We aren't using chemicals to harden up the buds. We are using skilled growing methods and good genetics. There are many factors to making dense buds. First off, you need a dense strain. Next, good atmosphere. A hot grow room produces fluffy buds...every time. Every strain has its favorite temp. Low light levels produce fluffy buds...every time. I run 62 watts per sq ft. Anything less than 50 watts/sq ft will give you loose buds.

Thinking you can just add 5 ml of this or that to your nutes and your buds will be rock hard is nute company marketing. So many people get hung up on nutes. Any commercial grower will tell you that environment plays a much bigger role in the yield and quality than nutes do. The reason people always think nutes is because more money is spent on nute advertising than environmental control advertising. This is because you buy an air conditioner 1 time...but the nutes go on, and on, and on...Like it or not, you're responding to advertising. I'd rather use fucking Miracle Grow in a great environment, than a $1,000 nute lineup in a hot humid grow room.

What was the topic? Oh yeah. We trim wet 100% the first pass. I don't want our trimmers to have to handle the buds twice. They are removed from the branches at harvest, trimmed perfectly, placed on screen trays to dry in 45% RH for 48 hrs. Then they go into paper bags which are alternately closed and opened for about a week until they're perfect. Everytime we open or close the bag we gently mix up the buds.
 

Dan Kone

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I'd rather use fucking Miracle Grow in a great environment, than a $1,000 nute lineup in a hot humid grow room.
I made this very expensive mistake several times. Was spending $1500+ on nuts per cycle. Decided to skip out on them for one cycle and invested in environmental controls and the results were better bud because I had a better handle on my heat/humidity. Now I'm just giving the plants exactly what they need and nothing more. If I start to see something funky happening, I address it. But I don't preemptively flood my reservoirs with a bunch of junk I don't need anymore. That very expensive lesson has been learned.
 

Perfextionist420

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Dan Kone hit it on the head, my man. We aren't using chemicals to harden up the buds. We are using skilled growing methods and good genetics. There are many factors to making dense buds. First off, you need a dense strain. Next, good atmosphere. A hot grow room produces fluffy buds...every time. Every strain has its favorite temp. Low light levels produce fluffy buds...every time. I run 62 watts per sq ft. Anything less than 50 watts/sq ft will give you loose buds.

Thinking you can just add 5 ml of this or that to your nutes and your buds will be rock hard is nute company marketing. So many people get hung up on nutes. Any commercial grower will tell you that environment plays a much bigger role in the yield and quality than nutes do. The reason people always think nutes is because more money is spent on nute advertising than environmental control advertising. This is because you buy an air conditioner 1 time...but the nutes go on, and on, and on...Like it or not, you're responding to advertising. I'd rather use fucking Miracle Grow in a great environment, than a $1,000 nute lineup in a hot humid grow room.

What was the topic? Oh yeah. We trim wet 100% the first pass. I don't want our trimmers to have to handle the buds twice. They are removed from the branches at harvest, trimmed perfectly, placed on screen trays to dry in 45% RH for 48 hrs. Then they go into paper bags which are alternately closed and opened for about a week until they're perfect. Everytime we open or close the bag we gently mix up the buds.
Good solid info, my question would be if I plan to use 1000 watt hps over a 5x5 area with 9 plants in 3x3 formation this comes to 40 watts per sq ft would this produce solid bud? It's below what you recommend but would this be ok? It's a convenient set up for me to run my room in these sections.
 

collective gardener

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Good solid info, my question would be if I plan to use 1000 watt hps over a 5x5 area with 9 plants in 3x3 formation this comes to 40 watts per sq ft would this produce solid bud? It's below what you recommend but would this be ok? It's a convenient set up for me to run my room in these sections.

Personally, I wouldn't do that. 3x6 lit with 2 x 600 watt HPS's would be better. Or, reduce the canopy area to 4x4. If you do try to light 5x5 move the plants often to give everyone a turn under the bright part. If you set up a 5x5 it will be obvious that the outer plants aren't getting enough light.
 

Perfextionist420

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Personally, I wouldn't do that. 3x6 lit with 2 x 600 watt HPS's would be better. Or, reduce the canopy area to 4x4. If you do try to light 5x5 move the plants often to give everyone a turn under the bright part. If you set up a 5x5 it will be obvious that the outer plants aren't getting enough light.
ok sounds good thanks
 

itsaplant

Active Member
I use two trim reapers and we are very happy with the end product.
We go over it a second time to remove ALL the green by hand.
If your doing a big amount, at some point a machine will be required.
We got a surprise rain and SOAKED our trees and rushed out and got two reapers.

True the crows feet suck, but the final product looks like Indore and fetched a good donation, (Plus the club sold it as Indore) what ever..

Almost got the twister last week but it was sold by the time I go there.
 

Milovan

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Last May, I spent 18 days straight at 9-13 hours of trimming a day along with 2 friends.
Girls of coarse, I only pick as many girls that is needed to trim besides myself. Not fun but the girls make it better.
The smoke was dry to trim so I flew through it.
 

Dan Kone

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The rippers are out in force in my area. Got me. Be careful guys.
I got ripped two years ago. Lost a whole patch. The f-ked up part was that most of the bud was about a month from being done so the guys who ripped me off didn't even get useful bud out of it. It was just pointless theft.

That was my last guerrilla grow.
 

budlover13

King Tut
I got ripped two years ago. Lost a whole patch. The f-ked up part was that most of the bud was about a month from being done so the guys who ripped me off didn't even get useful bud out of it. It was just pointless theft.

That was my last guerrilla grow.
Mine was my backyard. Took 2 of 3. The 2 most ready ones. Was gonna chop one today. And then had to chop my 3rd WAY too early because the bastards would've taken it. NOW, sitting at home watching them dry.
 

skiweeds

Active Member
i do large leaves and some small when wet. then when its dry i like to go over them all again and trim as much leaf as possible, even the sugar leaf. it makes great joints or hash. i dont like trimming when dry cause the leaves stick to the plants too much and damage trichomes.
 

budlover13

King Tut
i hate to trim, but id rather trim wet....i tried dry trimming and it was a messy pain in the ass
Last night, after losing 2 of 3 to rippers i started trimming and by the end the leaves were all wilty and a pain in the ass. i usually only chop a couple branches at a time but had to get this one inside. LONG night.

Btw, large fanleaves and long water leaves only. Looking for trim out of this too.
 

cruzer101

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I used to trim and manicure wet, now I just take the fan leaves attached to the stalk off and hang it in the shed.
Over a weeks time I remove the rest as it drys up. Seems to get me better smoke. I've been told the nitrogen in the leaf will help kick start the trichomes ripening.
 

d.s.m.

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The rippers are out in force in my area. Got me. Be careful guys.
Dealing with this right now. Got a neighborhood highschool kid staking my shit out, actually hopped the fence the other night. Alarms scared him off, but apparently he's planning to come back in a few weeks, and from what I understand, he may be doing this with his dad's approval. The good thing is that he ran his mouth to the wrong people, and I have his name and know where he lives. Some folks will be paying him a visit to explain the dangers of hopping the wrong fence.

http://www.harborfreight.com/wireless-driveway-alert-system-93068.html
 

Terror

Member
Dealing with this right now. Got a neighborhood highschool kid staking my shit out, actually hopped the fence the other night. Alarms scared him off, but apparently he's planning to come back in a few weeks, and from what I understand, he may be doing this with his dad's approval. The good thing is that he ran his mouth to the wrong people, and I have his name and know where he lives. Some folks will be paying him a visit to explain the dangers of hopping the wrong fence.

http://www.harborfreight.com/wireless-driveway-alert-system-93068.html
I can assure you if I were still in Texas and that would have happened, somebody would have had some buckshot coming their way. I'm surprised kids these days are so ballsy. It's going to get them killed sooner or later.
 

Perfextionist420

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Dealing with this right now. Got a neighborhood highschool kid staking my shit out, actually hopped the fence the other night. Alarms scared him off, but apparently he's planning to come back in a few weeks, and from what I understand, he may be doing this with his dad's approval. The good thing is that he ran his mouth to the wrong people, and I have his name and know where he lives. Some folks will be paying him a visit to explain the dangers of hopping the wrong fence.

http://www.harborfreight.com/wireless-driveway-alert-system-93068.html
Assuming your legal I would explain to him that trespassing and stealing is a great way to get shot, I'd be campin in my backyard with a shotgun and two dogs right in the middle of my crop. Plus I'd make it known if something happened he'd be the first one I'd come to
 
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