400watt 4x4 grow tent DWC grow

[converseking]

ok im thiking of setting up my first grow room in a 4x4 htg grow text with a 400 watt hps and 2 DWC's 6 plants( each with 20-30 gal res) each for a total of 12 plants. and having a few mum's (witch i will start from seeds) under flo lighting to take cutting's from. 4x4 2bulb flo's but im thinkin about cuttin down to 2x2. would that be a good idea?

i want to use a sog op for this and bulid the DWC's myself (i think i got the idea of how 2 build them but wanna be sure) but not really sure how to go about this. any advice?

is a 400watt hps eough light for a 4x4 grow tent? should i get more light? would DWC be good for sog op? could i grow more then 12 plants useing DWC in 4x4 grow tent? or by useing ebb & flow or something else in this size set up? if so how?

if u hav any experence with this plz help and thanks

p.s

add any extra info u think that would be helpful and thanks again

 

[LoudBlunts]

the 400watter should be fine.


have you already purchased the tent?

 

[converseking]

no not yet but i was going to soon. should i go bigger?

 

[LoudBlunts]

i dont think you should get the htg tent!

the tents are priced just as high as other quality tents. secret jardin dark rooms are the shit!

 

[Budsworth]

I wouldnt use the 12 plant set up DWC with seeds.. Use clones if you can. Once you see males and remove them you have a root issue to deal with. You can do it but clones
are the way to go.

 

[converseking]

i dont have any clones so i have to start with seeds what would be wrong with the roots starting from seeds?

 

[converseking]

I wouldnt use the 12 plant set up DWC with seeds.. Use clones if you can. Once you see males and remove them you have a root issue to deal with. You can do it but clones
are the way to go.

i was saying that i would use clones but i'll have to start mum's from seeds first. so would that be good for the (2) 6 plant DWC's? and do u think it'll be better if i go with more light like say 1000watt hps?

 

[Mr Green Man]

If you can get a 600HPS, 400 is enough but 600 is better.

I am growing 8 plants DWC in a slitly smaller space than you. 90x70x200cm With a 400HPS, I will be getting a 600 to use in a slitly bigger space next time round.

I haven't finsihed my first grow yet so I can't tell you how I did, Just that it is going very well. DWC is great.
If you have 4x4 and you are growing from clones, you can probably fit more like 16 maybe more. Try and get two big 2x4 contaniers, remember you will need around 3 to 5gal per plant depending on how long you veg. For a SOG keep the veg time short and have lots of plants.

Here are a couple of links read these before you purches anything. I'm using this system to great effect.

CC Hydro 101 by Earl - Cannabis Culture Forums

DWC, Bubblin' Buckets, What's Needed And How To - Cannabis Culture Forums

 

[converseking]

how well do u think it'll go if i skip he 600 watt hps and jus go for a 1000 with 16 plants? i hear 1000watts is jus right for a 4x4 space. and what do you think about areoponice hydro systems? i was thinking of gettin (2) 8 plants systems instead of the DWC's and puttin them in a 4x4 grow tent as well( they would take up a 3x4 space side by side) im jus not sure if if they'd be worth the extra money but some one told me they where the best and hardest to use of all hydo's. any input on any of this would be a great help.

 

[Enigma]

ok im thiking of setting up my first grow room in a 4x4 htg grow text with a 400 watt hps and 2 DWC's 6 plants( each with 20-30 gal res) each for a total of 12 plants. and having a few mum's (witch i will start from seeds) under flo lighting to take cutting's from. 4x4 2bulb flo's but im thinkin about cuttin down to 2x2. would that be a good idea?

i want to use a sog op for this and bulid the DWC's myself (i think i got the idea of how 2 build them but wanna be sure) but not really sure how to go about this. any advice?

is a 400watt hps eough light for a 4x4 grow tent? should i get more light? would DWC be good for sog op? could i grow more then 12 plants useing DWC in 4x4 grow tent? or by useing ebb & flow or something else in this size set up? if so how?

if u hav any experence with this plz help and thanks

p.s

add any extra info u think that would be helpful and thanks again

If you are using a 4x4 space for all of your plants don't expect to keep mothers in with flowering clones. You will need a seperate space for the mothers to veg.

Hydroponics first time around?

Nah, go soil.. less of a headache for the first time.. Soil is much more forgiving.

I had a couple of buddies.. well I kinda found out about their grow due to poor security and they let me in on it.. as security.. and we ran the DWC under 1000w MH and HPS in a DWC using 6 plants.. I did better on my own with smaller lights and soil.. first time.

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how well do u think it'll go if i skip he 600 watt hps and jus go for a 1000 with 16 plants? i hear 1000watts is jus right for a 4x4 space. and what do you think about areoponice hydro systems? i was thinking of gettin (2) 8 plants systems instead of the DWC's and puttin them in a 4x4 grow tent as well( they would take up a 3x4 space side by side) im jus not sure if if they'd be worth the extra money but some one told me they where the best and hardest to use of all hydo's. any input on any of this would be a great help.

1000w; 150,000L = 150L/w
600w; 95,000 = 158.2L/w
400w; 55,000 = 137.5L/w

1000w = 37,500L/sq. ft. @ 24" above the canopy
600w = 42,222.2L/sq. ft. @ 18" above the canopy
400w = 24,444.4L/sq. ft. @ 18" above the canopy

Don't expect to use all of that 4x4 space.. take it in maybe 6" on each side.. that is your USABLE area.

Hydroponics, I think, is out of your league as a first-timer.. aeroponics for sure.. so much to go wrong.. so much to setup.. there is a post on here that a guy spent $3k in equipment and killed his whole crop.. well, several.

I'd go soil first.. feel things out.. soil is more forgiving.

But hey, there might be something I missed along the way.. so read around a bit and see if you can answer your questions.. oh, and go with the Dark Room.. the HTG tents aren't what they are cranked up to be.



Enigma

 

[converseking]

what do u mean? what wrong with them? what makes a dark room so much better? maybe your right about the soil grow but im really in2 hydro and would like to go that way even for my first grow. what did your friends get in dryed product after their first 6 plant DWC grow?

 

[Enigma]

what do u mean? what wrong with them? what makes a dark room so much better? maybe your right about the soil grow but im really in2 hydro and would like to go that way even for my first grow. what did your friends get in dryed product after their first 6 plant DWC grow?

The first time around was less than an ounce each. That was barely over a QP from 6 plants! It took them a few grows to figure it out.. I grabbed some soil and put them to shame.. I don't remember exact numbers on it.. I'm bad at keeping notes.

Soil is just more forgiving for the first time around.. 1/4 strength nutes maybe once a week and plain tap water maybe once a week depending on soil. I've never worried about pH or PPM or pumps or failures for soil. Just water them, feed them and give them light with a fan.

Oh, and I've never experienced any bugs.. I keep shit clean!

HTG Grow Tent

Dark Room

Dark Room Street

 

[southfloridasean]

IF you want to go hydro do DWC until you get all your ducks in a row for aero. Keep your water level & ph steady with DWC if thats what your starting with & youll be alright but you have to be committed. Soils a nuisance. However, if you got balls & do some intensive reading shoot for aero. Why not.....Thats the only way we will all learn is from trial & error. Shoot for the stars, land on the moon.

 

[converseking]

Nah, go soil.. less of a headache for the first time.. Soil is much more forgiving.

Hydroponics, I think, is out of your league as a first-timer

mayb hydro is out of my league for my first time but i think i can handle it bt i might b wrong we'll c lol i was thinking of going soil first but i'd rather go hydro first and take the risk i think the shorter time for growing and better weed you get from doing hydro will be will worth any headache and if i do mess up and have to start over at least i'll already have some experence on growing hydro instead of just in soil wen i'll still just have to end up trying hydro later and getting that same experence from growing that way later anyway

 

[converseking]

IF you want to go hydro do DWC until you get all your ducks in a row for aero. Keep your water level & ph steady with DWC if thats what your starting with & youll be alright but you have to be committed. Soils a nuisance. However, if you got balls & do some intensive reading shoot for aero. Why not.....Thats the only way we will all learn is from trial & error. Shoot for the stars, land on the moon.

thanks dude

 

[southfloridasean]

No problem but dont think your going to mess up your only manifesting negative energy. Feel the enjoyment of your harvest even before you pop your 1st seeds. Positive thinking is what its all about.

 

[converseking]

nal dude its all love over here lol i gotta ? if i use a 2x3 set up with about 6 5 gal dwc bukets do you think i should go with a 250 wattt hps or a 400 watt air cooled light? I know heat would be a problem with the 400 in such a small place thats why it would be aircooled. do you think it would be worth it to just get the 400's for the small space and deal with the heat problem as it comes with fan's and what not?

 

[southfloridasean]

Well I would rather see you with the 400 watt lamp. The 250 watt wont give you much light penetration for 6 plants. Youll get popcorn buds. Also youll need an inline fan with a a carbon scrubber to get rid of the heat. You dont want heat to be a problem with the water in the gallon buckets it can make you get root rot.

 

[converseking]

Well I would rather see you with the 400 watt lamp. The 250 watt wont give you much light penetration for 6 plants. Youll get popcorn buds. Also youll need an inline fan with a a carbon scrubber to get rid of the heat. You dont want heat to be a problem with the water in the gallon buckets it can make you get root rot.

a inline fan with a carbon scrubber? what is that and where can i get one? and how much would it cost and how would i set it up in a colset?

 

[southfloridasean]

charcoal carbon scrubber OpenDNS
vortex inline fan or soler & palau fan use google