New Grower first time, white leaves and drooping

[sgtjayne]

Hi everyone, first time grower here and I'm not sure if I should be worried or if I should stop watering or what I need to do, so any help is greatly appreciated.

Info:
400 Watt Metal Halide (4 feet about plants)
Mylar Grow tent, (6 feet tall, 3 feet long, and about 2 feet depth)
3 Lowyrder 2's
2 AutoWidows
270 CFM canFan for air extraction
Passive air intake, (tent sucks in like a fat man at a nude beach)

The temp in the tent stays at 82 degrees F at all times. These seedlings have been in the jiffy pots for 6 days now. I have had them on a 24 hour light schedule so far. We've had to water at least once a day because the pots were drying out. Ph is 7.0

I hope I have not forgotten any information that could be useful. Also the heat problem will be taken care of on Friday that is when our cooltube hood is going to be delivered.

Thanks

j&m

 

[brokenturtle3102]

Are you putting any nutrients in the water? Also, reduce that PH down to 5.8 and the plants will respond much better. It looks like over-nutes and Ph problems at a very young stage.

 

[MrGhettoGrower]

It's hard to tell about the leaves from your pic's need a clear close up of the leaves. Their not quite ready for a 400 watter even at any height first 7-10 days use cfl or fluo's till the have at least one nice set of leaves. Then the 400 watter at 15" with a fan blowing on them. The money you'll save of electric will pay for the light too!

 

[sgtjayne]

No nutes, I've read not to use before the first two weeks. Any idea what a easy way to jiffy pots PH down?

 

[MrGhettoGrower]

Never used jiffy pots but I thought they were like dirt and ph'ed like dirt at 6.5-7.0.

 

[sgtjayne]

That is correct and mine are still at 7.0. I was asking because another submitted said to lower my ph to 5.8.

 

[charliedigital]

I use Jiffy peat pellets for seedlings and clones, and I've never had to adjust the ph. To my eye they look over-watered, I would let them dry out first before doing anything else. Over watering can cause a myriad of problems and deficiencies.

 

[watchhowIdoit]

They look pretty boggy, let them dry out some. You should already have roots showing from the pellets at by this time. They are too wet and its probably stunting root development. And you pH is just fine as is your 400 mh at 4 feet above.

 

[sgtjayne]

I use Jiffy peat pellets for seedlings and clones, and I've never had to adjust the ph. To my eye they look over-watered, I would let them dry out first before doing anything else. Over watering can cause a myriad of problems and deficiencies.

From what I've read you should never have to adjust jiffy peat pellets ph levels. The plants were watered maybe 10 minutes before the pics were taken but I still believe that it is over watering and prolly from our high temps in our tent.

 

[sgtjayne]

They look pretty boggy, let them dry out some. You should already have roots showing from the pellets at by this time. They are too wet and its probably stunting root development. And you pH is just fine as is your 400 mh at 4 feet above.

Like I mentioned in the last post it was just a few minutes after I watered that I took the pics so the boggyness is from that but I am very much in agreement of overwatering. I've tried very hard not to over water but with the heat problems in the tent the jiffy pots have got dry very fast and I'm sure that I have over compensated with the amount of water I am giving them.

 

[watchhowIdoit]

Like I mentioned in the last post it was just a few minutes after I watered that I took the pics so the boggyness is from that but I am very much in agreement of overwatering. I've tried very hard not to over water but with the heat problems in the tent the jiffy pots have got dry very fast and I'm sure that I have over compensated with the amount of water I am giving them.

Wrap them in some plastic wrap to help retain moisture.......

 

[sgtjayne]

@watchhowIdoit, do u mean that I should wrap the pellets or the entire container? I really appreciate all the advice you have given me so far. Thank you.

 

[f1bud]

Yeah i would think over water also man, i no what ur saying about ya temps but 82 aint all that bad but ur cooltube will get it down to 75 ish and thats in the ball park !!!let them dry out maybe lower the ph slightly and i think all will b wellm8 , coz they dont look to bad at all rearly, i repotted mine not much bigger than urs and there doin fine.
I aint used the pellets before but i guess u just place the pellet in another container and eh presto !! Have u not got a carbon filter ? Is smell not going to be a issue ? Good look any how man u will get there for sure !!

 

[watchhowIdoit]

@watchhowIdoit, do u mean that I should wrap the pellets or the entire container? I really appreciate all the advice you have given me so far. Thank you.

Just give the pellets a wrap. And your welcome, glad I could be of some help.

 

[sgtjayne]

Well it looks like we lost one last night, she's bent over completely and her leaves are shriveled and very pale. We got some Schultz moisture control soil to transplant into. I know that it prolly is not the best to use but the nearest place to us that sales nute free soil is over 2 hours away. We wrapped the pellets in plastic and it did seem to bring some life back to them. Planning on transplanting tonight. About the carbon filter, yes we do have one, its just not installed yet. Was waiting for the cool tube which arrived about 2 minutes ago.

 

[watchhowIdoit]

Well it looks like we lost one last night, she's bent over completely and her leaves are shriveled and very pale. We got some Schultz moisture control soil to transplant into. I know that it prolly is not the best to use but the nearest place to us that sales nute free soil is over 2 hours away. We wrapped the pellets in plastic and it did seem to bring some life back to them. Planning on transplanting tonight. About the carbon filter, yes we do have one, its just not installed yet. Was waiting for the cool tube which arrived about 2 minutes ago.

I would go to Home Depot or the like and get a bag of dolomite/garden lime and amend your Scotts soil, 1-2 tablespoons per gallon of soil. Moisten the mix lightly and allow it to buffer together for a week or two before before planting into it...other than that Scotts is just fine for growing. You may even want to mix a quart or so of perlite per gallon of soil also when adding the dolomite just to help drainage and make the mix a bit more forgiving when it comes to watering.....