Ontheball
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but then riu becomes work not pleasure
The UK Growers Thread!
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Beansly
RIU Bulldog
Yeah but he'd have to run that shit by admin so they can take a cut of the pie.
That's why only attitude and nirvana buy ad space here. They're the only ones that can afford it! Also why sometimes a banner will be added to your posts. I also happen to think RIU is behind the third party info selling bullshit but that I don't know for sure.
Funny though cause I hate them both and I'm always talking shit about em and I'm a mod. haha
Don Gin and Ton
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well that's it really keeping costs to a minimum, the overheads are next to nowt. besides there's that many peeps on riu with our web url in their sigs already the hit count for web stats is doing great for a company with a holding page haha. crawl before we walk sorta thing. google adwords can cost you a fortune, too if your not on top of it.
newuserlol
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speedy lived real close to me actually hand deliverd seeds i brought for a few other people, but he ripped alot of people off in the end and was always begging every1 to grow for him or exchange weed for seeds.
Don Gin and Ton
Well-Known Member
aye he did a moonlight with a load of peeps cash. not sure why he'd do it though really he had his own forum that was taking off.
newuserlol
Well-Known Member
sorry m8 i didnt think to put it in me sig is now tho.
Ontheball
Well-Known Member
ive noticed a trick with google adwords , set some up on a site that gets no traffic , they start pummeling your door with vouchers for £50 worth of advertising
Beansly
RIU Bulldog
This was taken from Rm3 forums, that was quote from Speedy's forums I think;
The first problem materialized when I agreed to an extortionate rate for advertising on riu. Rollitup was adamant on 35 - 40 % of sale value, this was impossible, he kept getting confused because nirvana could apparently give those kinds of percentages because of the amount of business he sent there way and that they are breeders and the cost is so much lower to them in the first place. Then there was the tude freebies and it was so hard to break through, the tude gave massive numbers of freebies away, stupidly I tried to compete and there just wasn't the budget to do so.
I actually sent rollitup 1000$ in advertising fee's for the short period I was there, the advert wasn't actually doing a lot for me apart from credibility, most of the sales came through what I had initiated on the forums, unfortunately the tude had just rolled out their affiliate program, which riu signed up for.
Every time I refereshed I would see the tudes advert and not mine, so I said whats up with that, he said the tude got an affiliate program now and I need to cover the server bills, this is when he told me that the advertising rate I was on was wrong. He said when we agreed on the price it was 10£ a pack not 10$ which at the time of recession near on doubled the price.
I told him it was impossible, when there are seed packs that I Sell for 20£, there wasn't the margin in it for me to agree to that, so he said to come up with what I can afford, I said I can't really afford 10$ per pack to be honest, sure on a 100$ pack of seeds but most people don't buy 100$ seeds, I said that I would be hoping to reduce the advertising rate, this is when i got dropped completely by riu, my thread closed and my ass booted out.
During this whole mess was the volcano eruption at the same time which closed uk airspace. I had roughly 4000$ in orders on the move, which royal mail decided in their wisdom to send landmail, which takes around 8 weeks.
My customers who were intensely de-satisfied with this, pushed for something to happen, and I agreed to reship these orders, which totally wiped me out and put me on the back foot.
I never got any credit at all for reshipping these orders and the number of people who said they would pay for both should they arrive was high, the number that did was 0.
So now I was left in a predicament, I had put so much effort, time and money into making this seedbank work, it was a choice of let it slip away or keep on battling, which is when this forum was introduced.
It was set up quickly and a lot of loyal customers and friends came over and were part of the club speedy join up.
Not long after, my first paypal account got closed down, for reports of unusual activity. They were prepared to let me keep my paypal account, but in return they wanted invoiced from my suppliers, photo id of myself, an invoice for all orders that they had processed within the last month.
This was quite a difficult and scary prospect and not realistic, so they froze everything that was in the account, a lot of money from customers who still wanted their order and were asking every day for it regularly.
So now the shit was knee deep, to try and bail myself out, I borred money from my father to fill these outstanding orders and moved onto my wifes paypal account (how stupid). this lasted for a very short time and things were just getting back on track and then wham, exactly what happened to the previous paypal account happened to this one.
So now I was totally fucked, I'd lost all the money my father had loaned to me, I had money tied up in 2 paypal accounts and people were after my blood.
I was pretty much broke, didn't have any other income with out the seeds and getting a job was impossible.
So I begun a course to get my cab license, as getting a job would be fairly easy. This process took 3 months during which time I had no income at all.
In desperation before christmas last year, I opened up a google checkout account to take some orders again through the store (mistake) I took around 10-15 orders and shipped a bunch out, the payout was supposed to occur ten days after payment was received, after 21 days it hadn't paid out, so a bunch of people got their orders and their money refunded.
A few people's money did get paid through a month later, so again I was fucked.
I see a lot of people saying shit about me, when the actually number of people that didn't get what they paid for with no refund was between 1 and 15 out of hundreds.
So I said googbye to the store and closed it for the last time. I started work driving my cab and declared that never again would I enter into the seedbmarket.
Then I was getting a lot of pm's from people, who just didn't want to get their private info stolen at the attitude and buy some european an ipad. They contacted me through pm and thats when minor seed orders started happening through western union.
Why has this placed stayed open so long without advertising and revenue, why haven't I just given up on this too already?
Well, I never wanted to let you guys down, the members. Who sacrificed their accounts at other forums to be here and make it what it is. I felt indebted to you after sticking with me and being loyal all this time and wanted to maintain the place you call home. I've also had in the back of my head for some time that one day I would get myself more stable and I would rise up like a phoenix from the ashes and silence the haters.
Well guess what peoples my shit is getting straight, speedyseedz the store will be coming back very very soon, a new store has been built completely from fresh to remove the issues that it had before, its been made tighter and with better function.
Oh shit speedy.... what are you going to do if they are going to close down another paypal account or google checkout.
Fuck that shit, I've got proper secure credit card processing setup with one of the leading global players, i've got a legit merchant account, i've got a legit payment gateway. I've got financial backing. Business account. Everything is being done in the most legit way. 3d secure payments for visa, mastercode for mastercard. 256 bit encryption is on its way to the store and the forum.
Fuck you haters, here I come
Relaunch date tba
The first problem materialized when I agreed to an extortionate rate for advertising on riu. Rollitup was adamant on 35 - 40 % of sale value, this was impossible, he kept getting confused because nirvana could apparently give those kinds of percentages because of the amount of business he sent there way and that they are breeders and the cost is so much lower to them in the first place. Then there was the tude freebies and it was so hard to break through, the tude gave massive numbers of freebies away, stupidly I tried to compete and there just wasn't the budget to do so.
I actually sent rollitup 1000$ in advertising fee's for the short period I was there, the advert wasn't actually doing a lot for me apart from credibility, most of the sales came through what I had initiated on the forums, unfortunately the tude had just rolled out their affiliate program, which riu signed up for.
Every time I refereshed I would see the tudes advert and not mine, so I said whats up with that, he said the tude got an affiliate program now and I need to cover the server bills, this is when he told me that the advertising rate I was on was wrong. He said when we agreed on the price it was 10£ a pack not 10$ which at the time of recession near on doubled the price.
I told him it was impossible, when there are seed packs that I Sell for 20£, there wasn't the margin in it for me to agree to that, so he said to come up with what I can afford, I said I can't really afford 10$ per pack to be honest, sure on a 100$ pack of seeds but most people don't buy 100$ seeds, I said that I would be hoping to reduce the advertising rate, this is when i got dropped completely by riu, my thread closed and my ass booted out.
During this whole mess was the volcano eruption at the same time which closed uk airspace. I had roughly 4000$ in orders on the move, which royal mail decided in their wisdom to send landmail, which takes around 8 weeks.
My customers who were intensely de-satisfied with this, pushed for something to happen, and I agreed to reship these orders, which totally wiped me out and put me on the back foot.
I never got any credit at all for reshipping these orders and the number of people who said they would pay for both should they arrive was high, the number that did was 0.
So now I was left in a predicament, I had put so much effort, time and money into making this seedbank work, it was a choice of let it slip away or keep on battling, which is when this forum was introduced.
It was set up quickly and a lot of loyal customers and friends came over and were part of the club speedy join up.
Not long after, my first paypal account got closed down, for reports of unusual activity. They were prepared to let me keep my paypal account, but in return they wanted invoiced from my suppliers, photo id of myself, an invoice for all orders that they had processed within the last month.
This was quite a difficult and scary prospect and not realistic, so they froze everything that was in the account, a lot of money from customers who still wanted their order and were asking every day for it regularly.
So now the shit was knee deep, to try and bail myself out, I borred money from my father to fill these outstanding orders and moved onto my wifes paypal account (how stupid). this lasted for a very short time and things were just getting back on track and then wham, exactly what happened to the previous paypal account happened to this one.
So now I was totally fucked, I'd lost all the money my father had loaned to me, I had money tied up in 2 paypal accounts and people were after my blood.
I was pretty much broke, didn't have any other income with out the seeds and getting a job was impossible.
So I begun a course to get my cab license, as getting a job would be fairly easy. This process took 3 months during which time I had no income at all.
In desperation before christmas last year, I opened up a google checkout account to take some orders again through the store (mistake) I took around 10-15 orders and shipped a bunch out, the payout was supposed to occur ten days after payment was received, after 21 days it hadn't paid out, so a bunch of people got their orders and their money refunded.
A few people's money did get paid through a month later, so again I was fucked.
I see a lot of people saying shit about me, when the actually number of people that didn't get what they paid for with no refund was between 1 and 15 out of hundreds.
So I said googbye to the store and closed it for the last time. I started work driving my cab and declared that never again would I enter into the seedbmarket.
Then I was getting a lot of pm's from people, who just didn't want to get their private info stolen at the attitude and buy some european an ipad. They contacted me through pm and thats when minor seed orders started happening through western union.
Why has this placed stayed open so long without advertising and revenue, why haven't I just given up on this too already?
Well, I never wanted to let you guys down, the members. Who sacrificed their accounts at other forums to be here and make it what it is. I felt indebted to you after sticking with me and being loyal all this time and wanted to maintain the place you call home. I've also had in the back of my head for some time that one day I would get myself more stable and I would rise up like a phoenix from the ashes and silence the haters.
Well guess what peoples my shit is getting straight, speedyseedz the store will be coming back very very soon, a new store has been built completely from fresh to remove the issues that it had before, its been made tighter and with better function.
Oh shit speedy.... what are you going to do if they are going to close down another paypal account or google checkout.
Fuck that shit, I've got proper secure credit card processing setup with one of the leading global players, i've got a legit merchant account, i've got a legit payment gateway. I've got financial backing. Business account. Everything is being done in the most legit way. 3d secure payments for visa, mastercode for mastercard. 256 bit encryption is on its way to the store and the forum.
Fuck you haters, here I come
Relaunch date tba
Don Gin and Ton
Well-Known Member
nowt to be sorry about man, cheers tho fella!
yeah they give those vouchers out for nowt these days lol.ive noticed a trick with google adwords , set some up on a site that gets no traffic , they start pummeling your door with vouchers for £50 worth of advertising
newuserlol
Well-Known Member
that post is old beans im pretty shore, but no speedy taking over as of yet? lol still at least he will pick ya up from sainsburys with ya shopping for min fare nowdays lmao
supersillybilly
Well-Known Member
What a load of bullshit. He ripped people off. Have the balls to admit it. He spent their money. Paypal freezing 2 accounts, bullshit. Paypal is now a global bank. More like he ran up debts with them. I for one would stay well clear of this useless so called businessman. Its proven History repeats itself
Ontheball
Well-Known Member
if paypal really did screw him like they did me i feel for him.
supersillybilly
Well-Known Member
The bank cant just "freeze accounts", thats why Im saying bullshit
newuserlol
Well-Known Member
dont feel sorry for him hes gonna ''rise up like a phoenix from the ashes and silence the haters'' lol
newuserlol
Well-Known Member
i dont think u was on here m8 at the time n neither otb the bloke was a bullshitter
but saying that i personally never got ripped off by him the seeds i got for some1 else he delivered by hand quickly, but was always pm'ing people beggin them to do test grows or swap weed for seeds.
supersillybilly
Well-Known Member
Just reading his excuse to his customers, you can just tell he was an idiot. Anyway Sambo, u any further forward
Beansly
RIU Bulldog
lol brutal
It could be old idk. Just thought I'd post it up for those that didn't know. I'm pretty sure his seed bank is up and running again though --->http://speedyseedz.com/
Ontheball
Well-Known Member
ah i couldnt a give shit about him , paypal stiched me right up , i sold aload of badass engine covers a super charger pipe work rads £2000k worth of shit to somebody.
He paid £1300 which is what i asked for the next day i find , im minus 1300 and i cant even use my paypal after shit loads of argueing long and short he said a cover got scratched so it wasnt the same as my picture thus not same item tbh i think the cunt did it himself , paypal took his side i was out of the money and short of a suerpcharging kit , long and short i will never use paypal or add to their profits ever again so long as i shall live, cunts.
p.s. i love amazon its my saviour.
He paid £1300 which is what i asked for the next day i find , im minus 1300 and i cant even use my paypal after shit loads of argueing long and short he said a cover got scratched so it wasnt the same as my picture thus not same item tbh i think the cunt did it himself , paypal took his side i was out of the money and short of a suerpcharging kit , long and short i will never use paypal or add to their profits ever again so long as i shall live, cunts.
p.s. i love amazon its my saviour.