Is Ron Paul The Kucinich of the Republican Party?

[dukeanthony]

No he doesn't want to change it, he wants it interpreted like the founders intended. Small federal government.What parts of the 14th and 16th are you referring too?

It called a living document by the "all knowing ones" who refuse to use the rightful authority, amendments, to change it.

You mean women cant vote, Only white male land owners. Slavery is legal and the country has no regulations?

And you think it is bad now?

 

[NoDrama]

You mean women cant vote, Only white male land owners. Slavery is legal and the country has no regulations?

And you think it is bad now?

Is there ANYWHERE in the Constitution that says women can't vote and there should be slaves and that only white males who own land can vote? Can you quote those parts of the Constitution that say this? I'll wait while you look that info up that you say is there.

 

[dukeanthony]

The word "slave" does not appear in the Constitution. The framers consciously avoided the word, recognizing that it would sully the document. Nevertheless, slavery received important protections in the Constitution. The notorious Three-fifths clause--which counted three-fifths of the slave population in apportioning representation--gave the South extra representation in the House and extra votes in the Electoral College. Thomas Jefferson would have lost the election of 1800 if not for the Three-fifths compromise. The Constitution also prohibited Congress from outlawing the Atlantic slave trade for twenty years. A fugitive slave clause required the return of runaway slaves to their owners. The Constitution gave the federal government the power to put down domestic rebellions, including slave insurrections.

Is there ANYWHERE in the Constitution that says women can't vote and there should be slaves and that only white males who own land can vote? Can you quote those parts of the Constitution that say this? I'll wait while you look that info up that you say is there.

 

[dukeanthony]

When the Constitution was written, only white male property owners (about 10 to 16 percent of the nation's population) had the vote. Over the past two centuries, though, the term "government by the people" has become a reality. During the early 1800s, states gradually dropped property requirements for voting. Later, groups that had been excluded previously gained the right to vote. Other reforms made the process fairer and easier.

Read more: U.S. Voting Rights http://www.infoplease.com/timelines/voting.html#ixzz1Wdq1uWs5

Is there ANYWHERE in the Constitution that says women can't vote and there should be slaves and that only white males who own land can vote? Can you quote those parts of the Constitution that say this? I'll wait while you look that info up that you say is there.

 

[NoDrama]

No, no, I mean i want the DIRECT QUOTE OUT OF THE CONSTITUTION that says women cannot vote, slaves are ok and only white male land owners can vote. I don't want what YOU THINK it says, I want the quotes because you said they were in there. So you either lied, really have no clue what is written in the Constitution or those things really are in there but you just can't find them. Which is it?

 

[dukeanthony]

no, no, i mean i want the direct quote out of the constitution that says women cannot vote, slaves are ok and only white male land owners can vote. I don't want what you think it says, i want the quotes because you said they were in there. So you either lied, really have no clue what is written in the constitution or those things really are in there but you just can't find them. Which is it?

can you name examples of women voting before the 20th century?
and why did we need the 19th amendment?

 

[munch box]

The word "slave" does not appear in the Constitution. The framers consciously avoided the word, recognizing that it would sully the document. Nevertheless, slavery received important protections in the Constitution. The notorious Three-fifths clause--which counted three-fifths of the slave population in apportioning representation--gave the South extra representation in the House and extra votes in the Electoral College. Thomas Jefferson would have lost the election of 1800 if not for the Three-fifths compromise. The Constitution also prohibited Congress from outlawing the Atlantic slave trade for twenty years. A fugitive slave clause required the return of runaway slaves to their owners. The Constitution gave the federal government the power to put down domestic rebellions, including slave insurrections.

you obviously have a problem with every little thing that has ever happened in American History. Why don't you and Obama just get out? Stop trying to transform it, if you hate it so much just fucking go. good lord you are nowhere near the center on 1 single issue. way out there in left field is dukeanthony and your radical liberal views.

 

[dukeanthony]

No, no, I mean i want the DIRECT QUOTE OUT OF THE CONSTITUTION that says women cannot vote, slaves are ok and only white male land owners can vote. I don't want what YOU THINK it says, I want the quotes because you said they were in there. So you either lied, really have no clue what is written in the Constitution or those things really are in there but you just can't find them. Which is it?

No one lied. But your petty attempt at spinning = FAIL

 

[dukeanthony]

you obviously have a problem with every little thing that has ever happened in American History. Why don't you and Obama just get out? Stop trying to transform it, if you hate it so much just fucking go. good lord you are nowhere near the center on 1 single issue. way out there in left field is dukeanthony and your radical liberal views.

Hey Im not the one advocating taking away a womens right to vote, legallizing slavery again
And giving voting rights to only white male landowners

You guys are. Well you and the turtle fucker Ron Paul
The guy you count on to stop the Joos and other minorities

Only Way Ron Paul makes sense is if you are REALLY stoned

 

[UncleBuck]

No, no, I mean i want the DIRECT QUOTE OUT OF THE CONSTITUTION that says women cannot vote, slaves are ok and only white male land owners can vote. I don't want what YOU THINK it says, I want the quotes because you said they were in there. So you either lied, really have no clue what is written in the Constitution or those things really are in there but you just can't find them. Which is it?

show me where in the constitution it says i am allowed to raise my left arm on tuesdays.

 

[dukeanthony]

U.S. Constitution - Article 1 Section 2


Article 1 - The Legislative Branch
Section 2 - The House

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The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.
No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.
(Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons.)

 

[dukeanthony]

U.S. Constitution - Amendment 13


Amendment 13 - Slavery Abolished

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1. Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United States, or any place subject to theirjurisdiction.
2. Congress shall have power to enforce this article by appropriate legislation.

 

[munch box]

show me where in the constitution it says i am allowed to raise my left arm on tuesdays.

The constitution says the government is not allowed to impose "fees" aka taxes on people for refusing to purchase goods or services. Obamacare is unconstitutional

 

[dukeanthony]

The constitution says the government is not allowed to impose "fees" aka taxes on people for refusing to purchase goods or services. Obamacare is unconstitutional

And Romney care is?

 

[munch box]

And Romney care is?

i do not support romney. i hope he drops out...

 

[NoDrama]

show me where in the constitution it says i am allowed to raise my left arm on tuesdays.

The Constitution tells the GOVERNMENT what it may do, not the citizen. But just so you know...Amendment 10...

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

Nowhere in the Constitution is the power to raise your arm on Tuesday prohibited, therefore it is either up to your state of residence to decide, or yourself. Knock yourself out.

 

[UncleBuck]

The Constitution tells the GOVERNMENT what it may do, not the citizen. But just so you know...Amendment 10... Nowhere in the Constitution is the power to raise your arm on Tuesday prohibited, therefore it is either up to your state of residence to decide, or yourself. Knock yourself out.

sorry, i wanted a direct quote involving left arm and tuesday. i don't care what you think it says, you lied and have obviously never read the constitution.



just returning the favor.

 

[undertheice]

No one lied. But your petty attempt at spinning = FAIL

duke, it isn't spinning. it's called having a sense of history. slavery was not mentioned, though it was accepted, because it was a common practice in almost every corner of the world at that time. women didn't vote because gender roles at the time were not as loosely construed as they are today. it was considered unseemly for a woman to concern herself with the filthy workings of running a nation. the new world was a eurocentric world, still filled with the same bias as europe and its tightly controlled class structure. landowners were seen as the responsible members of society, educated enough to understand the workings of government and with a bit of skin in the game.

no one is trying to bring any of this back. this is your spin. you're so caught up with the "progress" in "progressive" that you seem to see anything traditional in its most negative light. people who embrace a more traditional view of the constitution, the concepts of limited federal involvement and more power to the individual, aren't interested in taking away anyone's rights. what they are interested in is disposing of the notion that the federal government can arbitrarily make up rules to curry favor with anyone who has an axe to grind, increasing its own size and power with every new "right" it creates.

there's a saying i've become increasingly enamored with over the years and it applies particularly well to folks like you.

"get down off the cross, somebody might need the wood"​

 

[NoDrama]

sorry, i wanted a direct quote involving left arm and tuesday. i don't care what you think it says, you lied and have obviously never read the constitution.



just returning the favor.

You aren't really returning the favor, because I already gave you the part of the constitution that your question falls under. Things like Voting are all covered in the Constitution, thinks like arms on tuesday are not, therefore you are just trying to be cute. Well it won't work with me buster!


Believe me, if it was written in the Constitution that arms could not be raised on Tuesdays, you can be sure that Ron Paul would make sure that arms were not raised on Tuesday because he puts an extraordinary amount of faith into the system that made this nation great.

 

[UncleBuck]

It says anything not covered in the constitution shale fall to the states to regulate. LMAO

where does it mention left arm and tuesday?