The Truth About Ron Paul - Part 2
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dukeanthony
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Nice Picture in your avataryoure mad because he doesnt appeal to Trolls.
What were you saying about trolls?
Smirgen
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That there is a troll in this thread whose name is dukeanthony.
dukeanthony
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Mr Neutron
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Are you from Oregon?
hazyintentions
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Yeah, the biggest problem is still uninformed Americans, would you find it hard to believe that if every single American was given the history and voting records of Obama, Romney, Perry, and then Ron Paul it be just be that many many MANY more people would realize how corrupt the media is and realize just how much they like his ideas?Cool. Thanks for clarification. It's alright. Anyone with half a brain, knows that when people just spout rhetoric or call names that they have nothing else to offer. I've never been accused of being a troll before, so I was a bit taken back.....
I think if we pull together and get involved in our own communities, that we could have a chance. We are going against a deeply corrupt machine, but people are hungry for the truth, and are tired of the same old Barbie and Ken doll crap they've been fed. The mainstream media is losing credibility by the day, but there are still quite a few "washed brains" out there.
And yes, Ron Paul would shred Ohmamma if they went head to head. It is getting him to that point that will be the challenge. I firmly believe from my research and experience that this is the last chance we have before total chaos engulfs this country. I want to try everything possible to put a stop to it peacefully. This isn't just about legalization and the failed drug war. (which is actually just a disguised war on our liberties) They have been shipping the stuff in since the late 70's. Google Cele Castillo who I have met on a couple of occasions, and is also the real deal. He is doing time here in Texas because he got set up. Anyway...It goes much deeper than that. The system is rotten to the core, and we have to come together, and make a stand.
BTW, Ron Paul's birthday is tomorrow, and his B-DAY moneybomb starts at midnight tonight. If you can, please donate at least $20.12. I'm in for 177.60 just because I have been so pissed at how the media is trying to ignore him. But... it tells me that they are scared shitless that his ideas "will light brushfires in the minds of men". Thanks again for clarifying. Cheers..
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Anyways, I don't have much but I am donating to the money bomb. I hope this sends a shock wave through the system after the straw poll and last weeks progress after people starting calling the media out for black listing Ron Paul .
Give me a break. What your trying (and failing) to broadcast is that only stoners, conspiracy nuts, racists, and tea baggers care about ending the the the 5 or 6 illegal foreign wars, balancing the 14.4 trillion dollar deficit, protecting our liberties granted by the constitution, eliminating (or at least severely downgrading) the Federal Reserves role in our economy of counterfeiting money, ending the war on drugs, dismantling useless departments such as the DOEd, DOEn, and DOAg.
So on and so forth, do you even realize how stupid you came across as when you say those ideas are only for those 4 categories? If you want to bring something to this thread why don't you back up your insults with at least a half ass explanation?
Well my ranting with you is done
Mr Neutron
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If, as President, Dr Paul did nothing else but End the Fed, he would be the best President since Jackson.
Severely downgrading is not going to help, it has to be wiped out. That is the number 1 priority of a Paul administration. You can make all the cuts you want, you can raise taxes all you want, if the Fed remains, it's all for naught.
How can you be free in any aspect if you don't have economic freedom?
hazyintentions
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I say that because even if Ron Paul where president he would face massive adversity from Congress and while I think it should be abolished the first steps would be to at least stop their ability to print money.
Personally I think Paul camp's number 1 priority should be to bring troops home, that and the ending the FED alone would begin an 180 swing for America's economy.
The Ruiner
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The Truth about Ron Paul is that he can't win, won't win, and we are all better off for it being that way.
Ron Paul can go make the most absurd campaign promises ever, FAR worse than anything Obama ever said. And, as I have pointed out before: Ron Paul (if elected, god saves us all) would have to become the greatest tyrant in the history of this country (and perhaps, world) to carry out his platform which would undoubtedly lead us into the Mad Max type scenarios him and is ilk prophesize about. His ideas for this country do not fit the constraints of REALITY.
Ron Paul can go make the most absurd campaign promises ever, FAR worse than anything Obama ever said. And, as I have pointed out before: Ron Paul (if elected, god saves us all) would have to become the greatest tyrant in the history of this country (and perhaps, world) to carry out his platform which would undoubtedly lead us into the Mad Max type scenarios him and is ilk prophesize about. His ideas for this country do not fit the constraints of REALITY.
dukeanthony
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But i spent money on firearms ammunition and Bug out bags. I got a 3 week supply of food and i dug out a bomb shelter underneath my garage. i am ready for a Ron Paul Presidency.
Dont let my money go to waste. Cause Anarchy rulez
hazyintentions
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What is so unreal about ending all of our ILLEGAL and UNCONSTITUTIONAL wars? What is so unreal about going back to a gold standard? HR 429 introduced by Ron Paul has 169 co-sponsors in the House and 7 in the senate. What is so unreal about ending the war on drugs? What is so unreal about allowing the states to decide over the issues of marijuana, gay marriage, abortion and the such?
PLEASE answer me that. I will have much more respect if you can least present an argument as to why his ideas are so "unrealistic".
The Ruiner
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HA!
I keep a bug out myself...I just never want to have to use it.
I keep a bug out myself...I just never want to have to use it.
dukeanthony
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Funny Everytime I hear the Phrase "states rights" it is always at the expense of some groups rights that are protected federally.
londonfog
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The property rights issue that Ron Paul wants could and would bring back violations of Civil Rights...
The Ruiner
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I would really like to spend the time to go through one by one, but the fact of the matter is that I don't really have the patience for it.
You are entitled to your beliefs. But, I won't spend my time debating the merits of Ron Paul's rhetoric.
dukeanthony
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Ron Paul has no Problems with businesses discriminating against Blacks gays Muslims whatever.
You can define businesses as landlords, employers or Starbucks
He also likes picking and choosing what parts of the constitution he Likes
For example The Nativists (read racists) love this one
he wants to do away with Birthright citizenship
Which is funny becuase except for Slaves and Native americans Brithright citizenship has been around since the founding of this country
hazyintentions
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This is true, problem is you cannot expect everyone to be level headed and not racist, there will always be racists, unfortunately that's a sad fact of humanity, so either you have the government force people to hide their racism which drive them to usually resort to stuff like the KKK and the skinheads OR you let those people decided who they want to allow in their businesses and they will most likely go out of business because I know I for one wouldn't support any business that doesn't allow or treat minorities equally and I believe on top of loosing business from the people they turned away they would also loose business from the disgust of people who don't support such racist agendas, therefore I believe the whole "racist" partisan of Americans would slowly die out and shrivel up into a tiny fraction of a percentage of the population.
I assume you where referring the allowing people who are racist to turn away people of certain minorities. And this doesn't just apply to whitey turning away the "chink", it can also mean that in other people of other race could freely turn away "whitey" if they so felt inclined. BUT overall I believe (at least hope) that in this day and age most all of America doesn't view people for skin color or origin but for their views and beliefs as a person.
This is a controversial issue but when it comes down to brass tacks there will always be a ever so small numbers of racists, it's just a matter of either having the government try to tell them how to live or letting the people push them out as I know you couldn't run a very successful business if you were blatantly racist. Paul argument isn't to allow racism, his argument is that he can't support his Libertarian agenda without backing all of the people's rights and unfortunately (as I said before) there are bigots out there who own businesses. What i find silly is I get this image that people believe suddenly every corner gas stations is going to turn racist and riots will erupt, somehow I find that highly unlikely; it's just the same sort of fear mongering behind legalizing marijuana at a Federal level with some of the talking heads saying things like "people will become addicted" and "accident rates will increase" . Truth is if you don't smoke marijuana now you probably don't care too and it being legal and regulated won't affect you but WILL destroy the drug cartels who live off Americas ass backwards and corrupt laws.
What I find appalling is why people don't discuss and debate policies of the big wig candidates such as Romney and Perry so passionately....
Please enlighten me, I here to be as level and polite as I can if I receive the same, I don't ask for you to jump in joy and suddenly agree with me but I want to see the arguments here. I will very much so like to discuss why you wouldn't support bringing our troops home; that issues being the first one I mentioned and for me the most important for America's economy and safety.
Yes he does have a problem against it and has said so many times. He says it is not the role of government to force their sense of morality since government is not moral. It is the role of society.
He is very consistent. You do not know the foundation of the Constitution so why comment? Illegals sneak into this country 8 months pregnant and get rewarded with welfare when they give birth. They do not come here for the citizenship, they come for the entitlements. No one should profit from an illegal act.
No the property rights issues that Ron Paul wants would bring us back our freedoms and our liberties. No one owns your work but you. No one should be able to force another to do work for them. If you are advocating the use of force to make someone work for you, go open up a plantation instead, same thing.
I hope you are not naive enough to realize the civil rights act has not stopped discrimination.