First Grow - 2 x 1000w

bekindbud

Well-Known Member
The move is complete and seems to be a success! Friday night at 2am I had the most stressful car ride EVER lol All 12 girls were packed into my pops' hooptie van and taken to their new home. There was a ton of people on the road...my guess is most of it was bar traffic. I kept my eyes in front of me and in the rear view mirror. Each time I passed a street light I would look back and see all my buds swaying back and forth lol I was watching to see if anyone was following me but I made it safely with no tail :D

Here are the girls settling into their new grow tent:


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There's still a few odds and ends to wrap up in the tent. ie: c02, controllers, timers, etc... but overall the girls are here and this week everything will be hooked up.

Yesterday I found a little something on a bush outside my folks house and dubbed it my new friend Manny! Here he/she is:

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That was the last time Manny was seen LOL It's somewhere in there but we can't find it!

Also, we came to the conclusion that my kush girls are suffering BADLY from root rot. We picked up some 29% H202 and will be treating them first thing when the lights come on today. The cheese plants were also showing a tiny bit of red so to be safe all 12 plants will start receiving the H202 with every feed. The red is really bad as you can see...

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I will do my best to catch up on everyone's grow today or tomorrow. This has been a fast paced non-stop bust-yo-ass weekend and I am fucking exhausted!

Hope everyone enjoyed their weekend! See you all soon!

:mrgreen:
Kush plants have tendencies of during purple my friend!!!! I think your Kush plant looks so fucking dank....The buds are fantastic looking. When you get towards the end of flowering a lot of leaves turn color. I think its sexy!!!!

Peace

BKB
 

C.Indica

Well-Known Member
That red is a beautiful thing!
It means the flushing is working!

Don't feel bad it's perfect, the buds will swell as the leaves die.

I didn't realize how many plants you had until I saw those pictures, beautiful beautiful plants.

Find that mantis!
 

mugan

Well-Known Member
The move is complete and seems to be a success! Friday night at 2am I had the most stressful car ride EVER lol All 12 girls were packed into my pops' hooptie van and taken to their new home. There was a ton of people on the road...my guess is most of it was bar traffic. I kept my eyes in front of me and in the rear view mirror. Each time I passed a street light I would look back and see all my buds swaying back and forth lol I was watching to see if anyone was following me but I made it safely with no tail :D

Here are the girls settling into their new grow ten

There's still a few odds and ends to wrap up in the tent. ie: c02, controllers, timers, etc... but overall the girls are here and this week everything will be hooked up.

Yesterday I found a little something on a bush outside my folks house and dubbed it my new friend Manny! Here he/she is:

View attachment 1735890
That was the last time Manny was seen LOL It's somewhere in there but we can't find it!

Also, we came to the conclusion that my kush girls are suffering BADLY from root rot. We picked up some 29% H202 and will be treating them first thing when the lights come on today. The cheese plants were also showing a tiny bit of red so to be safe all 12 plants will start receiving the H202 with every feed. The red is really bad as you can see...


I will do my best to catch up on everyone's grow today or tomorrow. This has been a fast paced non-stop bust-yo-ass weekend and I am fucking exhausted!

Hope everyone enjoyed their weekend! See you all soon!

:mrgreen:
looks good all professional and shit :), good to know you made it there safe and din't have to use that sig a urs lolz
 

Dubbz0r

Well-Known Member
Grats on the move! Where did you get the light spinner and how much did it cost you? I may be in the market for one :D
Thanks Shwag! I'm pretty sure he got it from www.lonelygrower.com but not sure what he paid. It's pretty bad ass though!

Kush plants have tendencies of during purple my friend!!!! I think your Kush plant looks so fucking dank....The buds are fantastic looking. When you get towards the end of flowering a lot of leaves turn color. I think its sexy!!!!

Peace

BKB
It's the middle of flower week 6 and the buds of the kush girls are growing but they smell awful (like something dying & rotten) and are not producing any trichomes, when they should be covered? With root rot the plants don't uptake all the nutrients they need, which would explain all the deficiencies I've been having up to this point. That's why we're leaning towards root rot. Also the cheese girls are starting to do the same thing so it can't be just a kush thing. Red on kush and red on the cheese says something bad is happening. If my plants die in their final week of flower.... I would be more than devastated.

That red is a beautiful thing!
It means the flushing is working!

Don't feel bad it's perfect, the buds will swell as the leaves die.

I didn't realize how many plants you had until I saw those pictures, beautiful beautiful plants.

Find that mantis!
What flushing? I'm not flushing anything? I'm still feeding nutes and just started using my bloom booster a few days ago. The red leaves have yellow circle shaped spots all over them which looks far from perfect IMO. If you could smell these things you might have different thoughts...


Gah... my friend has me all spooked that my plants could potentially be dying right now. Why else would that same red be happening on my blue cheese plants when it's normal on kush plants? The smell of the kush plants literally is like a rotten tomato or something awful (never smelled anything like it). This is the stage of the plants life when they should be producing the most trichomes and smelling strong in the delicious department and they are doing the exact opposite... everything seems so far from perfect I'm having trouble understand how anyone can say they look good or perfect. *insert stress face here*!
 

Philosophist

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Well hell man, im not smart enough to diagnose the issue, but im sure hoping and praying that you get it worked out man. Im pulling for ya man....../goodmojosend->
 

Dubbz0r

Well-Known Member
Grats on the move! Where did you get the light spinner and how much did it cost you? I may be in the market for one :D
Here's the mover: http://www.lonelygrower.com/lonely/shopping.html?page=shop.product_details&flypage=flypage.tpl&category_id=42&product_id=2278


Well hell man, im not smart enough to diagnose the issue, but im sure hoping and praying that you get it worked out man. Im pulling for ya man....../goodmojosend->
Thanks homie. I need all the good mojo I can get.
 

alotaball

Well-Known Member
Good Luck Dubbz.. glad the move went well bro... The h202 will help if your right about the rot.. ive used it before to stop the pain after battling root aphids on a plant.. they eat at the roots and where they bite the root it leaves a chemical that causes them to rot.

Im not sure how dense the best are but try separating some of them with your fingers and make sure there is no bud rot.. that can stink like shit too.. normally its near the main stem on the big cola's. New setup looks bitchin... I dont wanna see anything less once your setup again LOL!
 

C.Indica

Well-Known Member
Oh SHIT I hope it's not Botrytis.
I was hoping you were flushing and it was all normal...

Also check Nute Toxicities.
 

ru4r34l

Well-Known Member
Dubbz0r, check your pH because from what I have read this sounds like a pH issue which is causing P (phosphorus) to be locked out.

http://www.growery.org/2991/Diagnosis said:
pH:

  • Common problem with indoor cultivation
  • Curled and twisted leaves are evidence of a Ph problem
  • Brown/yellow/red spots
  • Progressing eventually to nutrient lockout
Phosphorus (P):

  • Slow stunted growth
  • stem turns reddish purple starting at the leaves
  • Dark brown/purple/black necrotic patches appear on older leaves radiating from the veins
  • Tips turn brown and curl downwards
And I hate to be the bearer of bad news but if that smell is coming from both plants it very well could be bud rot (Botrytis), what is your humidity like? You have to catch this and catch it quickly, you may have to find the stinkiest bud and cut it up to make sure. Here is some info I found while searching.

https://www.greenpassion.org/index.php?/topic/2079-detecting-and-preventing-bud-rot/ said:
Introduction

http://www.greenpassion.org/1686_files/t_budrot1.jpg
Budrot (Botrytis) is a very common worldwide fungus that attacks both indoor and outdoor crops under certain conditions. “Budrot” is also known as “brown rot”, “grey mold” and other names. Airborne Botrytis spores can be found everywhere, all times of the year, and will attack many different species of plants. Botrytis will attack flowers, and eventually leaves and stems.

Growers running sea of green, perpetual harvest, remote grows, outdoor, or multiple strains (each with different flowering periods) should keep an eye out for Botrytis near harvest time.


Outdoor growers need to be hypersensitive to weather conditions near harvest time. Rain, morning dew, frost and cool fall nights may increase the risk of budrot and powdery mildew.

Fully developed marijuana buds provide ideal conditions for spore germination: warm and moist plant tissues. Botrytis will initially attack
the largest and densest buds in the garden, because they provide the ideal conditions for germination. Weak plants will also be attacked rapidly.

Identifying and preventing budrot

http://www.greenpassion.org/1686_files/t_budrot2.jpg
Budrot will infect and turn colas to mush in a matter of days and may destroy a crop in a week if left unchecked. Botrytis loves warm, and humid (50% or over humidity) conditions. Lowering humidity will slow and stop spore germination. Good ventilation and decent air circulation help prevent infection.

A grow room may smell noticeably moldy if Botrytis has attacked one or more colas. Once a cola has been infected, Botrytis will spread incredibly fast. Entire colas will turn to brown mush and spores will be produced, attacking other nearby colas.

Ventilation may spread viable spores throughout the room.

Measures to prevent budrot in the final stages of flowering:


Early veg and flower pruning of undergrowth to promote air circulation

Hepa filter room and intake air sources.
Introduce low levels of ozone into room air. Ozone is effective against pollen, podwery mildew and other airborne spores.

Lowering room humidity (warming nighttime air and venting frequently or using a dehumidifier)
Decreasing watering cycles and amounts to reduce room humidity

Large, dense colas should be periodically inspected. Brown tissues deep within the bud will smell moldy and may become liquid.

Removing fan leaves during the last few days before harvest to promote air circulation

Serenade (thanks vaaran)

"Serenade controls the following: ....Botrytis, Powdery mildew, Downey mildew..."

"Certified organic by OMRI and EPA/USDA National Organic Program, Serenade offers growers the luxury of application without weather or timing restrictions and there are no phyto-toxicity issues"

"To apply, simply spray on leaves and shoots to provide complete coverage. Best results will be had be pre-treating plants before signs of disease set it and then every week to protect newly formed foliage"

What if budrot is found?

Once budrot has been detected, the grower should isolate infected buds by removing them from the growroom immediately and harvesting the infected colas, followed by a rapid dry of the harvested colas. Take immediate steps to reduce room humidity. Afterwards, the entire crop should be carefully inspected for infection and damage.

The grower may want to harvest early if more than one rotting cola has been found. Spores may have spread and are germinating deep within other colas.

Can I salvage budrot-infected colas?

Yes. Remove the infected colas from the main room, Trim out the infection (Trim more than you can see – Botrytis often infects adjacent tissues) and quick-dry them. Re-inspect buds – they should not smell moldy.

Smoking infected buds is not recommended.
I wish I could help some more

regards,
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Bud rot if in the bud aint going to go away, if theres root rot then you can fix that, first you need to inspect
The bud look for mushy spots and or gray/white patches. Once you rule out that check the root for slime
Or real bad smell if you have to dig into one ti inspect the medium you can do it without hurting them.
H202 isnt going to be strong enough to kill root rot as bad as it sounds, you might have to step it up a bit
Like bleach, but before anything rule out what you have and il give you the formula for the bleach.
 

C.Indica

Well-Known Member
Bud rot if in the bud aint going to go away, if theres root rot then you can fix that, first you need to inspect
The bud look for mushy spots and or gray/white patches. Once you rule out that check the root for slime
Or real bad smell if you have to dig into one ti inspect the medium you can do it without hurting them.
H202 isnt going to be strong enough to kill root rot as bad as it sounds, you might have to step it up a bit
Like bleach, but before anything rule out what you have and il give you the formula for the bleach.
Careful with bleach, I bet it's a 1-3 drops per gallon.


I really hope it's not budrot bro, good luck. I'm sending you some good vibes, hand them over to your ladies.
 

Dubbz0r

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Dubbz0r, check your pH because from what I have read this sounds like a pH issue which is causing P (phosphorus) to be locked out.

And I hate to be the bearer of bad news but if that smell is coming from both plants it very well could be bud rot (Botrytis), what is your humidity like? You have to catch this and catch it quickly, you may have to find the stinkiest bud and cut it up to make sure. Here is some info I found while searching.

I wish I could help some more

regards,
My ph has been on point for the last three weeks so that rules out a ph problem. Before then it was all jacked up, but I have a digital ph reader I've been using to cover that part. With root rot the plants are unable to uptake all the essential nutrients it needs to grow so deficiencies are going to show and not just one. My cheese girls leaves are showing the early stages of root rot which is paling leaves (sulfur def.). The kush girls root rot stage is more advanced since I've been thinking it was a simple ph issue. They are showing a molybdenum, cal/mag and sulfur deficiency. The roots aren't allowing for these nutrients to be used by the plant.

The smell is only coming from the kush girls and you don't really smell it unless you get right on top of them. When you rub off trichomes and smell them, that's when you can smell the weird funkiness. The cheese and skunk girls smell fantastic so I'm ruling out Botrytis and bud rot. There are no visible signs of mold or bud rot. The humidity in the room they were in at my old house was always between 34-45%, never above 45%. The thing is... my dehumidifier is a 70 pint which is overkill for a 9x11 room. What points to root rot is that while running the dehumidifier during lights out it was drying out my soil overnight. I was watering/feeding everyday for a while there. I watered them in their new home Saturday and the soil is STILL super moist. If they were at my old house I would have watered/fed twice since then without a doubt.

Bud rot if in the bud aint going to go away, if theres root rot then you can fix that, first you need to inspect
The bud look for mushy spots and or gray/white patches. Once you rule out that check the root for slime
Or real bad smell if you have to dig into one ti inspect the medium you can do it without hurting them.
H202 isnt going to be strong enough to kill root rot as bad as it sounds, you might have to step it up a bit
Like bleach, but before anything rule out what you have and il give you the formula for the bleach.
The buds are frickin dense as hell with no soft, mushy or gray/white spots anywhere. It's just red leaves and a purple line running thru the main stems of my kush ladies.

Right now the plan is to let the soil dry out completely then give them a nice h202 feed with Dark Energy. From the looks of things my girls have a minimum of 3-4 weeks to go so we may have some time to at least slow down the kush problem. Since the cheese girls are just now showing some red we might have more luck with them being fixed.

We'll see what happens...
 

Lanternslight

Active Member
Look at that avatar...pretty sexy.

Hope everything works with the kush ladies and the cheese. I hope I don't have any issues with it. That is why I am worried about my rez temps. In hydro if that are around 80 you will start to get root rot. Hopefully the hydroton helps.
 

C.Indica

Well-Known Member
Good luck. Give them all hugs.
I like your avatar, nice sativa leaves stretching out of the bud in my favorite dome shape. I love when cannabis has "hands laying down" all around it.
 

kether noir

Well-Known Member
93

some strains have red veins or branches naturally,this im sure you know.
the h202 should help. never hurts to get more oxygen to the roots. i hope you get it all resolved soon.
keep the bud porn going. :)


93 93/93
 

Dubbz0r

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The garden itself is new lol other than that nothing really new has been introduced to the girls yet.

Lights just went off (my cycle changed during the move... it's now running from 4:20am to 4:20pm) but tomorrow we're going to hook up my c02, c02 controller and light controller. The soil is still pretty moist, I'm hoping to water with the h202 and dark energy tomorrow though. The induction lights and magnetic ballasts make it tough to take good pics...but I will do my best to get some new shots. The kush buds are getting fat as hell, with little to no new trichomes :(
 

Dubbz0r

Well-Known Member
They've only been under the induction light since last Friday. The leaves have been turning red/purple for a few weeks now. We're almost ruling out root rot, but we're going to give them the h202 + dark energy just as a precaution. I just wish these bastards would push out more trichomes like the cheese and l skunk girls...
 
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