Help grow room design!

collective gardener

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Its ok it can definitely pay to be ambitious you know... And I just happen to be in luck that room is 65"x58"x with a high of highest 94" and lowest 87" thats gonna be the vegetation room its perfect size for clones too!!!

Ok and For the bloomroom i was thinking either do 5x8 room or a 4x9 so i can have some extra space to work around em. I personally think a 5x8 room would be most suitable. Cause that would give me an additional foot to walk the length of room like you said. Where as a 4x9 would allow me to walk in between 2 4x4 flowering plants which with the bushiness may be slightly hard. I know this may be a bit more difficult for you but can you explain the need of what im getting besides the obvious like the lights. Im asking about ballasts and why a particular one over another I really like the air reflectors though they look perfect. I was looking at 8" ones correct? After pricing it out online it seemed to be about 1300 without home depot setup. Can you cross reference that and check for me as well? I was looking at getting the 8 bulb T5 it was 2.75"x24"x46.5" with the bulbs. I want to do both lights if I have the room you know? But the lighting definitely sounds good and about right from what I have read and know.

Also since that space is open with my shower room im guessing it would be wise to put up a wall there and a door that opens out. This is for the veg room... Just so that way the humidity doesnt mess with anything or the rise in temp from shower im not sure just thinking out loud. Also there is a permanent closed window there I could easily black it out or block light. Even further tho inside the veg room is a vent that goes outside kinda like a heater vent i could use it or seal it either would work.

This is sounding much better and he seems much more interested. I was wanting to get my buddy over here and ask him about those circuits and what not. Before I get the materials to actually start the walls. I would like to figure it all out before I start getting stuff lol I know I dont need hps and stuff immediately which is relieving. I would definitely like to figure out the ducting for the bloomroom I really think the skylight would be best option since its kinda broken and leaks and needs replaced otherwise tho there is a vent that goes up and onto the vent system on top of house (whch i dont think works) Anyways thought that vent i measured it and it is 16"x9" I was thinking an 8" duct and a 6" duct would work possibly even 2 eights depending on the actual size without vent thingy on. However, with the skylight it is 45.5"x21" so it is substantially larger and would support all the exhaust. All i would need to do is remove skylight fixture and replace with the ducts and make a fixture for them and seal it. I personally think that may be much much simpler.
These plans are getting much better cant wait for some more feedback on this.

BTW your grow is just absolutely massive
I can definately give you a list of everything you need besides lights. I just wanted us to agree on a size first...and that's determined by lights. When purchasing equipment, I like to price everything online, then bring that list to my local hydro shop and see how close they can get to the price. If they can get within a couple hundred bucks, buy it all from them. First off, it starts a nice relationship with you giving them a nice chunk of business. Second, if any equipment doesn't work (this happens all the time), they can replace it much faster than returning it to an online store. Third, when you negotiate the price of that first big purchase, you can insist on getting that discount on all future purchases.

Now, go get you a Hydrofarm Catelog, and a Sunlight Supply Catelog. They have them at the hydro store. Also, a CAP catelog if they have them. Is there more than one hydro store where you live? It's very important to establish a relationship with your local hydro store. If there's multiple stores, visit them all. Use your gut. You're looking for people who you can have a long term relationship with. It's nice if they know growing, but way more important that they know how to get you what you need fast and inexpensive.

The 5 x 8 would be best. 6 x 8 would be better. But, we'll take what we can get. I'm thinking 2 - 6" ducts (one for bloom lights, one for veg room exhaust) and one 8" duct (bloom room exhaust with carbon filter and speed control). We'll get 6" air cooled lights. The C.A.P. are the best deals...check them out.

I'll start working on a master equip list. You start drawing up the proposed building modifications. Do you have a way to make drawings and send them to me? You could use the 'paint' program and send that as a pic. Anyways, it's best to draw up everything before even going shopping. You draw, I'll modify.
 

srfresh

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Ok and it turns out we are going to just build an entire bedroom and closet cause it would be easier since walls are cinderblock and floor is cement only wood is roof. Then the door wont be the only door in room cause it will be in my bedroom. And yes to the best of my knowledge there is only one hyrdo store nearby and I will go for catalogs today.

OK i have made some rough sketches of what they may or may not look like. Tell me what you think. In the picture i edited in paint i tried to show how it would without bedroom walls for now but those are still going up regardless that would just be closet part. And for the veg room the shower are a bit off but the width is about 28" to get into room im so im not sure if i can build a slim door into that or what im sure i will figure it out. But really want veg room sealed too.
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nozoki

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Let's talk security. What's the legal status of medical marijuana in your state? Do you live alone? Is your house fairly private? Is your next door neighbor a DEA agent? Can you honestly do this without telling ANYONE except the 1 or 2 people (who you trust with your life) you may need to help with construction and plant care?
This is definitely all information you need to always be 100% sure of. I've known far too many people who couldn't keep a secret and got robbed because of it.
 

srfresh

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Yeah i will be investing into several locks as well securing not only the room but my bedroom and the entrance to my living area it will be 3 lock minimum to get thru. sometimes there is only so much u can do tho. Thats why the only ppl who know pretty much have to know haha
 

collective gardener

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Sr Fresh,

The sketches are great. Love the little "walking guy" in the walking room. Too funny, man. Your design will work just fine.

On another note. If you're going to start from seeds, you may want to order them right now. They can grow for weeks in a 1 foot by 2 foot tray lit by a cheap light. You can own everything you need to keep them growing for the first month for about 100 bucks. I'd hate to see you wait until the room is complete only to sit and watch tiny little plants grow for a month. If you have a closet or something to start some seeds now, that would get the grow op a head start. A source for clones would be even better.
 

srfresh

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Ok I will start looking at seeds anyone have comments on landrace sativa otbherwise im open to seed sources and strains I need some recommendations
 

collective gardener

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Ok I will start looking at seeds anyone have comments on landrace sativa otbherwise im open to seed sources and strains I need some recommendations
Bro, I like a great sativa as much as the next guy, but they are NOT a good strain to start growing with indoors. Look for an 8-10 week flower period. Blue dream has some sativa (blueberry x haze), is easy to grow, and yields fantastic. I've gotten 2 lbs/light with it. It's just a suggestion. Go to attitude seeds, or look at the seed and strain review thread here. You can post there that you're looking for a sativa rich strain that will finish in under 10 weeks and doesn't grow too tall. I grow Kushes, but I'm in California, and Kush is what's in major demand here. If you were here, I'd toss you a couple cuts because I know you're a real guy looking for personal stash who wouldn't try to get rich with my strains. If you want to take a drive, I'd be happy to leave a couple in a bag on a park bench for you. In the meantime, do some research on what strains would suit you. I would get at least 3 to start out with.
 

srfresh

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Ok so what about og kush? That looks spectacular. I was wondering cause I would love some white widow and its on sale right now. But I will take a very good look thru. That would be a long drive.
 

collective gardener

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SrFresh,

Kush is great smoke, but a dainty little whispy plant. Not big yield. Getting quality OG Kush seeds or clones is next to impossible. Lots of decent pot called OG out there, but the real deal is only traded amoung friends from grow to grow. White Widow would be good for you...so would AK-47. Blue Dream would give you some Sativa in a plant that grows well indoors. I also like Casey Jones.

Whatever you get, get alot of seeds. Breeders claim their seeds are stable...meaning produce very similar phenotypes. This is total bullshit. 10 seeds will produce 10 different plants...and only one (if you're lucky) worth growing. This is why cuttings are so much better. Seeds waste time finding that special mom. But, we all had to do the seed thing at some point.
 

srfresh

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Ok so i have my seeds chosen out. Im going to get 5 femenized white widow, 5 femenized pineapple express, then 1 white siberian. What am i going to need to get these babies started besides the flouros. Lets start looking at starting them veg room will be done by time they get here. And flowering room will be done intime for them to get in there. I was thinking choose the best ones out of the 2 main strains and keep them for mothers and keep the white siberian as well. Then just flower the ones im not wanting to keep. Start making me a starting shopping list so things that are cloning/vegetation related Im thinking just use 1 flowering light for now to start. Im wanting to expand to the 2 light system tho so keep that in mind.
 

collective gardener

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Ok so i have my seeds chosen out. Im going to get 5 femenized white widow, 5 femenized pineapple express, then 1 white siberian. What am i going to need to get these babies started besides the flouros. Lets start looking at starting them veg room will be done by time they get here. And flowering room will be done intime for them to get in there. I was thinking choose the best ones out of the 2 main strains and keep them for mothers and keep the white siberian as well. Then just flower the ones im not wanting to keep. Start making me a starting shopping list so things that are cloning/vegetation related Im thinking just use 1 flowering light for now to start. Im wanting to expand to the 2 light system tho so keep that in mind.
OK. Just give me a couple days. We're trimming right now and it's keeping me real busy. You'll be numbering all plants, taking numbered cuttings from all plants, flowering all plants, and then keeping the cuttings from the plants that turned out the best as your mothers. There's no way to tell what mother you want until you flower her, dry her, and smoke her. Numbered cuttings allow you to flower all the plants for testing while keeping clones alive in veg from each one. Just because a plant does well in veg means nothing. It may produce shit buds. It's a time consuming process, but gets your grow started right. Without access to proven clones, this method is the best way to find prize plants among the seeds. Breeders are full of shit when they claim that their seeds are "stabilized", and will all produce very similar plants. There will still be wide variation from seed to seed.
 

srfresh

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Ok so I have 5 white widow, 5 pineapple express, then a few singles of other strains sour ak hypnotic and connie chong

Then also the hydro store has nutes smaller lights starting hydro stuff flood trays. Looks like most of the basic stuff I can get there I also have a hydrofarm catalog as well been looking thru it. From looks of it most of stuff I can just get them to order or order the stuff online
 
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