Water Cure? Curious? I tried it...

r1tony

New Member
Well after reading a lot on the "water curing" subject I thought I would post my results and procedures for doing a water cure and my results.

Now this was done with already cured and a few months old "Critical +" buds that I had an abundance of. I mean I heard water cured buds and I am sure I thought the same as you "What the !)@&(*!! I am not putting my treasured buds in water after all this time!!" So, I took some buds I thought was properly cured and dried, and placed them in a big mason jar with a ratio of 3 parts water to 1 part bud. I used clean RO water because I didn't wan't tap water in my buds with all the crap that comes with it. Tighten the lid and let sit for 24 hours, but I flipped the mason jar every so often because the buds will float and wanted top buds on bottom etc.

After the first 24 hours the water is pretty dirty, I am shocked at what I see. I also see little almost crystals in water like trichome heads. WTF! I am freaking but I am in deep now so I just drain the water and replace with fresh RO. Now draining can be anyway that doesn't lose the bud in the sink, I just use inside cap of mason jar and slide up so that water escapes but traps bud. Let sit another 24 hours.

Now continue this for 7 days (week) the water and smell will go from being dirty and stinky at first to almost clean at end. To note the last 2 days didn't really see any difference and wish I would started dry then but wanted to do full 7 days.

Day 7 expecting the worst. Bud will look like its ruined by now, but don't worry. It looks worse then it is, just have faith. I drained the water out leaving bud in the jar, then dumped bud into a few layers of paper towel. I bought a dehydrator at Walmart for 39 bucks that was recommended by the article I read on water curing. I took out all the shelves but one since I had about an ounce I started with. Now the slits in the dehydrator might let some smaller buds go through, it doesn't matter but you have to clean it up. I cut some vinyl screen (for windows/doors) to lay in the trays and works great. I placed the lid on the dehydrator and ran it for about 2.5 hours. Bud remained sopping wet for about 1.5 hours so don't worry it will get there. After 2.5 hours the bud was crisp and dry to touch, almost bit dry for my tastes but afterwards seemed perfect.

Now, I will give you my pluses and minuses for this. Remember this was already cured bud as my next harvest is months away, so it should essentially be the same for new bud. Also the pluses might be my personal plus and same with negatives but take them at face value.

Pluses

Cured bud before water curing was good potency and flavorful, after the water cure it was better then good potency but little to no flavor. Now, you say wha the fudge? I gave this a plus because the "high" or relief that was gained outweighed the loss in flavor. Now staying on flavor the smell is almost non-existent as well. So with kids, or public places this rocks in my opinion. More potent bud with no smell.. wha.. genius. Potency comes from your loss of weight (yes its a neg we will get there) and making more of the good stuff less of the bad. With no smell as well if you forget to spray on your Axe body spray you don't smell like you just came from an Avenged Sevenfold concert.

Bud burns cleaner then I ever seen any smoked, grown or elsewhere. Its white ash , pure clean but I vapor more then bong. If you vapor you seen your bags, yellow/stinky/sticky and other vapor parts. With this for a week my bags and parts are super clean considering before, with this I think shit its not in my lungs neither!! Wow.

I am sure it works same when you harvest, so a plus is (others confirm) you have excellent "blow you away" smoke in 7 days after harvest. If you can live with the loss of weight and flavor/smell.

Negatives

Loss of weight, yes after your buds swell to gargantuan size with water they shrink to less then starting weight. I think its all the crap that is expelled and the THC (not water soluble) is left. Good more potent, bad less weight (losing smell and flavor).

Appearance the buds will look darker and definitely not photo worthy. They are not ugly by any means, but its not that pretty crystal look you jack off too on your computer while your plants grow. This also includes the dank smell is gone, if you crave that you definitely will not like this.


Final Thoughts

This is an essential process for me now. I like to smoke, but I don't like to smell like roadkill after a 100 degree day. I love the fact that smoke that use to get me decent buzz is now a great buzz and no distinct smelling odors. Will I do my harvests 100% this way? No. I like the smell and flavor like the next guy, but each has its own time and place. Unfortunately not everyone wants to praise to the world that is not ready for MMJ laws and like to be a bit more stealth like me. I don't tell everyone I am a MMJ patient, I grow or I smoke like most morons that get their card (which end up getting harassed/robbed etc) and this in my arsenal of stealth is wonderful addition.
 

CanadianDank

Well-Known Member
Thanks for posting this! Very informative, I recently tried this my first time and completely agree with you.
+rep.
 

curly604

Well-Known Member
Well after reading a lot on the "water curing" subject I thought I would post my results and procedures for doing a water cure and my results.

Now this was done with already cured and a few months old "Critical +" buds that I had an abundance of. I mean I heard water cured buds and I am sure I thought the same as you "What the !)@&(*!! I am not putting my treasured buds in water after all this time!!" So, I took some buds I thought was properly cured and dried, and placed them in a big mason jar with a ratio of 3 parts water to 1 part bud. I used clean RO water because I didn't wan't tap water in my buds with all the crap that comes with it. Tighten the lid and let sit for 24 hours, but I flipped the mason jar every so often because the buds will float and wanted top buds on bottom etc.

After the first 24 hours the water is pretty dirty, I am shocked at what I see. I also see little almost crystals in water like trichome heads. WTF! I am freaking but I am in deep now so I just drain the water and replace with fresh RO. Now draining can be anyway that doesn't lose the bud in the sink, I just use inside cap of mason jar and slide up so that water escapes but traps bud. Let sit another 24 hours.

Now continue this for 7 days (week) the water and smell will go from being dirty and stinky at first to almost clean at end. To note the last 2 days didn't really see any difference and wish I would started dry then but wanted to do full 7 days.

Day 7 expecting the worst. Bud will look like its ruined by now, but don't worry. It looks worse then it is, just have faith. I drained the water out leaving bud in the jar, then dumped bud into a few layers of paper towel. I bought a dehydrator at Walmart for 39 bucks that was recommended by the article I read on water curing. I took out all the shelves but one since I had about an ounce I started with. Now the slits in the dehydrator might let some smaller buds go through, it doesn't matter but you have to clean it up. I cut some vinyl screen (for windows/doors) to lay in the trays and works great. I placed the lid on the dehydrator and ran it for about 2.5 hours. Bud remained sopping wet for about 1.5 hours so don't worry it will get there. After 2.5 hours the bud was crisp and dry to touch, almost bit dry for my tastes but afterwards seemed perfect.

Now, I will give you my pluses and minuses for this. Remember this was already cured bud as my next harvest is months away, so it should essentially be the same for new bud. Also the pluses might be my personal plus and same with negatives but take them at face value.

Pluses

Cured bud before water curing was good potency and flavorful, after the water cure it was better then good potency but little to no flavor. Now, you say wha the fudge? I gave this a plus because the "high" or relief that was gained outweighed the loss in flavor. Now staying on flavor the smell is almost non-existent as well. So with kids, or public places this rocks in my opinion. More potent bud with no smell.. wha.. genius. Potency comes from your loss of weight (yes its a neg we will get there) and making more of the good stuff less of the bad. With no smell as well if you forget to spray on your Axe body spray you don't smell like you just came from an Avenged Sevenfold concert.

Bud burns cleaner then I ever seen any smoked, grown or elsewhere. Its white ash , pure clean but I vapor more then bong. If you vapor you seen your bags, yellow/stinky/sticky and other vapor parts. With this for a week my bags and parts are super clean considering before, with this I think shit its not in my lungs neither!! Wow.

I am sure it works same when you harvest, so a plus is (others confirm) you have excellent "blow you away" smoke in 7 days after harvest. If you can live with the loss of weight and flavor/smell.

Negatives

Loss of weight, yes after your buds swell to gargantuan size with water they shrink to less then starting weight. I think its all the crap that is expelled and the THC (not water soluble) is left. Good more potent, bad less weight (losing smell and flavor).

Appearance the buds will look darker and definitely not photo worthy. They are not ugly by any means, but its not that pretty crystal look you jack off too on your computer while your plants grow. This also includes the dank smell is gone, if you crave that you definitely will not like this.


Final Thoughts

This is an essential process for me now. I like to smoke, but I don't like to smell like roadkill after a 100 degree day. I love the fact that smoke that use to get me decent buzz is now a great buzz and no distinct smelling odors. Will I do my harvests 100% this way? No. I like the smell and flavor like the next guy, but each has its own time and place. Unfortunately not everyone wants to praise to the world that is not ready for MMJ laws and like to be a bit more stealth like me. I don't tell everyone I am a MMJ patient, I grow or I smoke like most morons that get their card (which end up getting harassed/robbed etc) and this in my arsenal of stealth is wonderful addition.
dude not hatin on ya or nothin but you just made hash and threw away the good stuff..... remember when you saw those trichlomes in the water.... they are water soluble oil structure and dont mix with water. look up bubble hash or blender hash basically thats what you did with out mixing it hardcore. in my opinion "water curing" is a waste of time you definatly lost thc count and who know what else, if ya got a problem with a dry bag i recommend orange peels and maybe a whetted paper towel in a ziploc the little buddies will pick up a fair amount of moisture like that but 3 to 1 with water your makin hash bro again best of luck if you like the finished product then power to ya brotha.
 

r1tony

New Member
dude not hatin on ya or nothin but you just made hash and threw away the good stuff..... remember when you saw those trichlomes in the water.... they are water soluble oil structure and dont mix with water. look up bubble hash or blender hash basically thats what you did with out mixing it hardcore. in my opinion "water curing" is a waste of time you definatly lost thc count and who know what else, if ya got a problem with a dry bag i recommend orange peels and maybe a whetted paper towel in a ziploc the little buddies will pick up a fair amount of moisture like that but 3 to 1 with water your makin hash bro again best of luck if you like the finished product then power to ya brotha.
Well like I said to each its own, you can't hurt my feelings. I am just sharing my thoughts and experience to anyone who is on the fence. If I did make hash then I like it, its more potent (even though you say I flushed it all away) and like that its smooth and odorless.

I am thinking the trichomes in the water were loose ones in the bud that the water is flushing. Is that good? Maybe not as your losing some trichomes but I figure your going to lose em either way in the grinder or handling them to your bowl. So even though your point is somewhat valid it's hardly an argument you may think it is.
 

curly604

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Well like I said to each its own, you can't hurt my feelings. I am just sharing my thoughts and experience to anyone who is on the fence. If I did make hash then I like it, its more potent (even though you say I flushed it all away) and like that its smooth and odorless.

I am thinking the trichomes in the water were loose ones in the bud that the water is flushing. Is that good? Maybe not as your losing some trichomes but I figure your going to lose em either way in the grinder or handling them to your bowl. So even though your point is somewhat valid it's hardly an argument you may think it is.
mmmm no it is putting your cured buds in water is a big no no ask any experienced grower / smoker. the trichlomes werent loose untill you shook the jar around and shit that breaks em off. did you cool this experiment in the fridge or something? that smell you had was probly decay and you were now probly smoking slightly rotted bud ..... it just dont make sense, and you didnt even really make hash just you could of in a similar way but you would throw the weed material away in the end and keep the water and strain out the thc thus getting hash.... i dont recomend this with quality buds unless you got a shit load but your good trimm will ake some fine stuff as well man.
 

curly604

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[video=youtube;Uf0skTsA1bw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uf0skTsA1bw[/video]

just for reference this is when you would get weed wet but then you throw it away.
 

r1tony

New Member
Well it's not 100% the same but somewhat similar. The ice is what breaks the trichomes and the agitation, not the water.
 

r1tony

New Member
no the ice cold water causes the trichs to freeze and become brittle and easy to break off
Umm kinda of what I said but thanks for chiming in. I mean ok erase the post as usual the idiots of RIU are out. Last time I do a post on a subject that might help someone out, kind of like the site used to be about. Peace.
 

medicolas

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Umm kinda of what I said but thanks for chiming in. I mean ok erase the post as usual the idiots of RIU are out. Last time I do a post on a subject that might help someone out, kind of like the site used to be about. Peace.
Great experiment! I don't think I would do it with bud that could be smoked already, but that's me! I am 6 days in on a water cure with 10oz wet. I have been sifting the discharge water and have found small trace amounts of triches, but nothing to worry about. The buds look as frosty as they did when I put them in..... Just soggy! I don't agitate at all though. I am very careful not to pour any water directly on the buds. The plant matter is mushy at this point. They are a very soft shade of green compared to harvest day. They still have a sweet smell when I drain water each day. I still have a positive feeling about it. I was very reluctant to drop to nice bags of dank-ass nugs into some RO water, but I'll find out how well it works in a few more days. That water is some thick funky shit when you pour it out. I'll try to post a few pics tonight after I change the water.

Overgrow The Government! OTG!
 

r1tony

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Great experiment! I don't think I would do it with bud that could be smoked already, but that's me! I am 6 days in on a water cure with 10oz wet. I have been sifting the discharge water and have found small trace amounts of triches, but nothing to worry about. The buds look as frosty as they did when I put them in..... Just soggy! I don't agitate at all though. I am very careful not to pour any water directly on the buds. The plant matter is mushy at this point. They are a very soft shade of green compared to harvest day. They still have a sweet smell when I drain water each day. I still have a positive feeling about it. I was very reluctant to drop to nice bags of dank-ass nugs into some RO water, but I'll find out how well it works in a few more days. That water is some thick funky shit when you pour it out. I'll try to post a few pics tonight after I change the water.

Overgrow The Government! OTG!
Sounds like you're experiencing what I did. It will be ok and the smoke will potent, maybe and most likely better then before. Smooth and odorless... feels good.
 
Water curing is absolutely NOT the same thing as making hash. Making hash using bags involves lots of ice and heavy agitation, just as Micromaster said. Water curing is a week-long soaking process using room temperature water without agitation. It's a completely different process with different results.

No offense to curly604 but you obviously do not really understand either process. Time for more research or better yet, how about actually trying both yourself? There's no better way to learn than personal experience.
 
isn't the point of water curing to remove the chlorophyll? if you did your experiment on already cured bud, then you didn't CURE anything, you just washed your bud. try your experiment on fresh cut bud that is loaded with chlorophyll and post your results.
 
It cleans everything out, not just chlorophyll. It works equally well with fresh buds as it does on already dried and cured buds. As the OP noted, it makes the best stealth smoke IMHO.

Like I said, try a small amount and see for yourself. I know some people that absolutely love it and do it to everything they have.
 

medicolas

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No pics yet. The stuff is weird!! It has like no smell real smell. It sure as hell don't smell like weed burning. The smoke is pretty smooth, but I miss the flavors. It is different than anything I've tried before. That is not saying much though. I have never even smoked a cigarette! Puffed on a couple of high $$$ cigars.... Smoking wise, it's been Cannabis only. So, I would be a bad judge on smoking.

Now the high is a different story all together! I don't think I am in any different state than I usually am after smoking the same size bowl of a regularly cured OG Kush, but I am sure as hell no less! It did hit a little faster it seems though. Not bad... But to be honest I don't think I'll do it again. I think I can dry and cure in two weeks and have far better tasting cannabis. Just my opinion! I will weigh it and let you know what the difference was later.
 

sen.c

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I will be water curing from now on, smooth smoke and gets all the crap out. It never fails when you buy on the street you never seem to get correctly cured bud anyway. I guess the growers like it somewhat cured to get better weight out of it but if you like to sit on several different strains it could pose a problem with molding.

I have to agree with Samuel water curing and bubble hash are two totaly different things.
 

medicolas

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Well.. I just medicated again. I am waiting for the damn AA's to charge for pic's!

This is the uber stealth weed! I can't smell shit! I am waiting on my niece to get home from work, so I can do a smell test on her "virgin nose".

Hits like a fucking hammer though! Wow! LUUUUV IT!

I also noticed that the Kush has turned an even darker shade of purple than normal. I have had that strain turn purple right at the end of flowering before... And I would swear that that shit tastes like Grape soda now and them, so I am really wondering if They got some seeds mixed up? It was OG KUSH from Reserva Privada, but I wonder. It is most assuredly Kush, but I'm thinking it's way to grapish to be just OG.

Thoughts?
 

medicolas

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R1tony, I frikkin love that photo of yours! You could make an alternate with a little girl about that age... fix'r up with a couple of shiners and caption it as "Bitch don't listen. See, I already told her twice! I know it's terrible... But I did it anyway!
 

medicolas

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Well... Here the pics! They are labeled correctly. I ground a bit so you could see it ground and in bud form, I nugged these all the way down before the water cure.

I am starting to get a bit of the good aromas back in the jar, but it sure as hell don't just smell like WEED! Smokes great. I must say I am a fan! My wife Vap's and she has some breathing issues anyway... She says it's f'n awesome! It's a lot easier on her... even smoother out of the Volcano!!! Imagine that!

Now here is the bad news for the weight freaks! I really don't give a shit about weight because, well I just don't! I don't sell... so who gives a shit, but for those who might.... I would say you can take what ever you cut wet( and I mean trimmed to nugg's... like zero stems) you should see 15-22% net-yield. So, my 10oz. wet = 1.75 water cured and ready to smoke!

Another interesting note...
Start Weight Finish Weight

OG Kush 5oz. .75oz.

Cheese 5oz. 1.0 oz.

You can see in the photo's how much frostier the Cheese buds are. Obviously, the more resinous the strain the less weight loss you'll encounter!

+Rep is appreciated and given when deserved!
 

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