ReeferBaby420
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Ok, Ive had this plant for few weeks and it been growing fine til like 2 days ago. I think it because the area i live in has been really hot outside. But idk what to do i have pics below.
Whats wrong? Can anyone help?
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Lord Dangly Bits
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Pictures are nice, but more info is needed. What are the temps? You really should give all the info you can think of. What kind of soil are you useing? Your soil looks really dry.
If I had to guess from just the photo's, I would say you are not watering them enough. But that is just a shot in the dark with no info.
If I had to guess from just the photo's, I would say you are not watering them enough. But that is just a shot in the dark with no info.
ReeferBaby420
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i water the plant every 2 days if its needed. For the past couple of weeks its been real hot (around high 90s and like a day or two that was 105). But its cool today 82 and high 97. I'm using mricale grow potting mix, it says it has micromax in it, and the npk is 0.21-0.07-0.14. I also added more soil
ReeferBaby420
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Yea i dont add extra nutriets or anything. And yea when i added soil i water it
ReeferBaby420
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But i added soil after it was already looking bad?
Just wondering would it be too late to plant a new germinated seed and let it grow outside until it gets too cold and take it in?
Just wondering would it be too late to plant a new germinated seed and let it grow outside until it gets too cold and take it in?
Lord Dangly Bits
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105 is way to high of heat for a MJ plant, especially if it is in direct sun light. Can you bring it inside until the heat gets down to the high 80's? and then put it back outside.
Put your ear real close to the plant during the middle of the day, and I bet you will hear. The House, The house, The House is on FIRE!!!!
Put your ear real close to the plant during the middle of the day, and I bet you will hear. The House, The house, The House is on FIRE!!!!
max316420
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ReeferBaby420
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Haha yea i can take it inside. Should i keep it in a window?
ReeferBaby420
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Max- if i did overfeed them should i "flush" them or what should i do?
Lord Dangly Bits
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In higher heats, a lot of people kill their plants from over feeding. This is how it happens.
Lets say your summers are usually 80 degrees, and You water your plants every 3-4 days. And you feed them every 3rd watering.
Then you move somewhere that is in the mid to high 90's during the summer. You now have to water everyday, with a heavy watering every other day, and you feed them every third day like you did before.
Now during the hotter weather, your plant will drink a little more water then normal. But a lot of the moisture in the soil is lost from evaperation, the plant will drink up the water a little faster, but will still up take the nutrients at about the same amount per time. So you start to get a Nutrient build up in your medium.
So you are feeding them every 3-4 days instead of every 12-14 days. And the plant is still wanting the same amount of nutrients, when it really just wants more water.
When you go to the beach on a hot day, you drink more water because of the heat. But you do not eat that much more. Same goes with plants.
I would move that plant indoors and flush as Max has suggested. You should give them a good flushing with just PH'd water. Allow maybe 1/2-1 gallon of run off. Take this run off and mix it. Then take a PH reading of it, and take a PPM reading. Bring that info back here if you could please. I am thinking you will have a very high PH reading with a large PPM readings also. Might even be higher then you put in.
Lets say your summers are usually 80 degrees, and You water your plants every 3-4 days. And you feed them every 3rd watering.
Then you move somewhere that is in the mid to high 90's during the summer. You now have to water everyday, with a heavy watering every other day, and you feed them every third day like you did before.
Now during the hotter weather, your plant will drink a little more water then normal. But a lot of the moisture in the soil is lost from evaperation, the plant will drink up the water a little faster, but will still up take the nutrients at about the same amount per time. So you start to get a Nutrient build up in your medium.
So you are feeding them every 3-4 days instead of every 12-14 days. And the plant is still wanting the same amount of nutrients, when it really just wants more water.
When you go to the beach on a hot day, you drink more water because of the heat. But you do not eat that much more. Same goes with plants.
I would move that plant indoors and flush as Max has suggested. You should give them a good flushing with just PH'd water. Allow maybe 1/2-1 gallon of run off. Take this run off and mix it. Then take a PH reading of it, and take a PPM reading. Bring that info back here if you could please. I am thinking you will have a very high PH reading with a large PPM readings also. Might even be higher then you put in.
ReeferBaby420
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ight thanks guys ill tell u how my baby is next week
max316420
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agreed on last 2 posts... good info
Gaia's.Grower
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Sounds like great advice. You generally see effects of overfertilizing starting at the edges of the leaves. The strong under curls along the edges and at the tips seem characteristic of over fertilization (the claw like hooking is caused by too much nitrogen for example. Since u are using miracle grow most of the nitrogen is going to be water soluable and easily taken up by the plant. Some of the nitrogen will be in amonniacal form. Amonniacal nitrogen in general needs to be converted to nitrate for plants to easily acess the nitrogen. Higher temperatures accelerate the conversion process).
The raised ridges along the veins are also characteristic of over fertilization as well. High salt concentrations will accumulate in stoma (stoma are pores on the under side of leaves that regulate gas [O2 and CO2] exchange and other respiratory functions. [Water is carried up through the plant and released to the environment through the stoma]). The high salt concentration causes the stoma to swell. This results in the raised ridges.
However the raised ridges cannot be contributed to over fertilizing alone. Plants will try to maintain their genetically determined optimum internal temperature range. As temperatures rise above the comfortable range plants begin processes to try to lower their temperature (like sweating in humans). The plant will try to dissipate as much water from itself by causing the stoma to swell. This is only one effect of heat stress.
Basically it seems like your planting medium is border line toxic for the size/strain of you plant and these toxicities are being exaggerated by environmental conditions. Flush like crazy, get them to cooler temps but don't move them to an area with too little light intensity (remember it's the heat not the light damaging your babies (supplement with cfls or florescent tubes if u have to).
Next time try using a blend of peat, coco fiber, and perlite (peat and coco will hold water, peat stays wetter longer but holds significantly less oxygen than coco add the perlite for drainage) and some organic fertilizers (botanicare specifically the organicare, Bio canna, Bio bizz, age old, etc.). As long as you have healthy cultures(available in mixes like myco madness, great white, etc.) You should avoid the nutrient problems.
Meant to post earlier but lost my internet connection
PEACE AND LOVE
As far as temp goes seaweed will help with heat tolerance
The raised ridges along the veins are also characteristic of over fertilization as well. High salt concentrations will accumulate in stoma (stoma are pores on the under side of leaves that regulate gas [O2 and CO2] exchange and other respiratory functions. [Water is carried up through the plant and released to the environment through the stoma]). The high salt concentration causes the stoma to swell. This results in the raised ridges.
However the raised ridges cannot be contributed to over fertilizing alone. Plants will try to maintain their genetically determined optimum internal temperature range. As temperatures rise above the comfortable range plants begin processes to try to lower their temperature (like sweating in humans). The plant will try to dissipate as much water from itself by causing the stoma to swell. This is only one effect of heat stress.
Basically it seems like your planting medium is border line toxic for the size/strain of you plant and these toxicities are being exaggerated by environmental conditions. Flush like crazy, get them to cooler temps but don't move them to an area with too little light intensity (remember it's the heat not the light damaging your babies (supplement with cfls or florescent tubes if u have to).
Next time try using a blend of peat, coco fiber, and perlite (peat and coco will hold water, peat stays wetter longer but holds significantly less oxygen than coco add the perlite for drainage) and some organic fertilizers (botanicare specifically the organicare, Bio canna, Bio bizz, age old, etc.). As long as you have healthy cultures(available in mixes like myco madness, great white, etc.) You should avoid the nutrient problems.
Meant to post earlier but lost my internet connection
PEACE AND LOVE
As far as temp goes seaweed will help with heat tolerance