Diablo OG In Dual Monster Plant System

[lordjin]

Grow is over, Report is not.
Great read, enjoy.

Hey, thanks! It's great having a spokesman! Lol.

 

[lordjin]

Broke my travel bubbler today so I bought this one. There's something about these little guys that give you a more direct high than larger bongs (less distance to your face).

I went overboard in flower time. So I made I mistake too, everyone. I'm glad I did, as it now gives me something else to correct for my next grow. This does look pretty extreme now that I look at it. Avoid extremes. I violated one of my own rules.

I don't recall exactly which day this photo comes from, but I'm thinking I should have harvested just a bit before this for optimal smell and potency.

 

[lordjin]

But the grow is over, and I havent' been posting regularly.

Who are all these people viewing I wonder? Kinda' creepy. Lol.

 

[dirk d]

i think that means start another grow Jin!! lol. the audience is chanting encore, encore, encore!! lol. but really start growing something dammit!

 

[lordjin]

i think that means start another grow Jin!! lol. the audience is chanting encore, encore, encore!! lol. but really start growing something dammit!

I will start another grow, Dirk. Just for you (and me) Lol.

I don't want to flub the construction of my scrog screen, though, and I haven't gotten any responses to my question at the DIY section.

Maybe you or someone else here can suggest a good sturdy screen construction with the proper sized holes? This would be my first actual scrog. No one at the DIY section willing to help a poor noob.

 

[brandon727272]

Woodsmantoker knows a lot about scrogging and answered the questions I had about it. I wanted to do it outside using rabbit fencing (holes are 1x2" I think) painted with anti rust green paint. I never went through with it obviously, but I really want to next year . Here's the link to the thread: https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/282177-enter-scrog-scroggers-united-post.html Hope I helped

 

[lordjin]

Woodsmantoker knows a lot about scrogging and answered the questions I had about it. I wanted to do it outside using rabbit fencing (holes are 1x2" I think) painted with anti rust green paint. I never went through with it obviously, but I really want to next year . Here's the link to the thread: https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/282177-enter-scrog-scroggers-united-post.html Hope I helped

Fuckin' awesome. Thanks, Brandon. That's exactly what I needed to see.

 

[dirk d]

well i really dont know what the hell im doing jin. lol. iv started out scrogging but im learning every run. i tried that plastic square crap at the hydro store. it sucked. bad! so i just went and got some twine and did it myself. much better than the plastic imo.

i think im on my 5th scrog harvest and i just started realizing that if i organize all the branchs better im sure i can really pack some more weight on. 2" x 2" squares is what i read is the best and it seems to be working out good. i tried 4" x 4" too big. i'll post a pic of my new scrog when its done in about a day or so.

 

[323cheezy]

So I had a head to head with one of my dispensary friends.

After examing a good portion of my bud carefully, he reported that I went too long in his opinion, and they may have lost potency due to this fact. The tiny yellow tips on the bud leaves and some of the actual buds themselves served as the indicator for him. I'm not one to string up someone with a counter-opinion, especially if they have knowledge about bud, so I'm considering what he said, and I'm tending to agree with him.

I was in such a mindset of letting them mature fully this time, I didn't take into consideration that I should shave like a week, maybe two off my overall grow compared to what the strain recommendation says. That's actually what my dispensary buddy said. He said my mistake was listening to the strain recommendation with such a hyper grow system like mine... those general flowering recommendations assuming that you're growing in soil.

So for my next round, here are the improvements I'm shooting for:

I'll scrog for sure to crowd in more main tops.

The scrog will keep the tops even further away from my light, resulting in greater density and potency.

I will NOT over-ripen. Looking back on my journal, it's clear to me now where I missed the optimal window for harvest.

Live and Learn. I'm no exception.

Edit:

I will never rest until I have acheived perfection. Never. Guess I'm gonna have to start thinking about my next one.

yeah i woulda chopped a lil earlier.... but i dont think thats a major problem.....(i mentioned that a while back ... but you were so into dsmokes advice ..lo...and looked over mine...hahah)
Id have to smoke your buds to tell u what i think.....
The thing with selling to colectives ...... you have to have newer strains in my opinion sometimes....
You push genetics that are new and hot its much easier......

the way most collectives work..is they usually already have a couple vendors ....or main vendor....(some just sell there own meds)
So most times there not looking to pic up from random members......

The couple of colllectives i frequent.... are always realy nice to me ... and used to see me almost every day....
I put up allot of good post and smoke reports...on there forum... and i have a high rep on wt....
So when i tell them i harvesting.... they always invite me in .... and look at my meds.....

I guess u could say u need to just find the right collective.....

You need to start growing again.... we started are last grow at the same time....
but as of know im already 2 weeks in flower (on my next grow).. and have a whole new batch of clone just rooting....
Im kinda perpetual ...so i wil be harvesting almost monthly now......
Thing are really starting to move fast...
I made some grow upgrades also ......

Lets get together...my louie and sk are the best weeds i ever smoked in my life...or top 5 ...
We got some sour dubs, blue larry , and louie..... these starins are garunteed unique ...and wil be rare genetics that most collective would jump at .....

If u want i can take some samples to my colective fro u ....and seee what they think.....
They tend to try and get a low price and by higgher quantity ... but on average you can get about 250 a zip if its top shelve....

ps...... i chop early sometimes ....hahah more like all the time.....
these ladies need to die.....Kill em!

I'm not gonna kill 'em yet no matter what anyone says or thinks. thank you.

 

[C.Indica]

"The scrog will keep the tops even further away from my light, resulting in greater density and potency."

What? I don't understand this. Wouldn't the buds grow denser if they were closer? Especially being affected by the inverse square law?

 

[lordjin]

yeah i woulda chopped a lil earlier.... but i dont think thats a major problem.....(i mentioned that a while back ... but you were so into dsmokes advice ..lo...and looked over mine...hahah)
Id have to smoke your buds to tell u what i think.....
The thing with selling to colectives ...... you have to have newer strains in my opinion sometimes....
You push genetics that are new and hot its much easier......

the way most collectives work..is they usually already have a couple vendors ....or main vendor....(some just sell there own meds)
So most times there not looking to pic up from random members......

The couple of colllectives i frequent.... are always realy nice to me ... and used to see me almost every day....
I put up allot of good post and smoke reports...on there forum... and i have a high rep on wt....
So when i tell them i harvesting.... they always invite me in .... and look at my meds.....

I guess u could say u need to just find the right collective.....

You need to start growing again.... we started are last grow at the same time....
but as of know im already 2 weeks in flower (on my next grow).. and have a whole new batch of clone just rooting....
Im kinda perpetual ...so i wil be harvesting almost monthly now......
Thing are really starting to move fast...
I made some grow upgrades also ......

Lets get together...my louie and sk are the best weeds i ever smoked in my life...or top 5 ...
We got some sour dubs, blue larry , and louie..... these starins are garunteed unique ...and wil be rare genetics that most collective would jump at .....

If u want i can take some samples to my colective fro u ....and seee what they think.....
They tend to try and get a low price and by higgher quantity ... but on average you can get about 250 a zip if its top shelve....

You got me, Cheezy. You got me. Though I'd like to mention dsmoke1's point of view was valid... It was my mistake not applying it exactly right to this particular strain. Pictures can only say so much... If he had seen them in person, he probably would have suggested harvesting a little sooner too.

Thanks for your dispensary insight. It was an interesting read. My little shop is a small mom and pop on the corner. I don't vend to the bigger shops as they have their own set vendors and tend to stick with them, you're right about that.

Yeah, dude. You sound like you know yer OG, and I'm impressed by the quality of your up close nug photos. I definitely have a mind to connect with you on genetics. I would love to show the results of my efforts to your shop friends as well when I'm done. Just let me sort out my screen and get that installed. I just need to get some minor details in order for my next which will be a scrog. I'll Scrog your Lou, or perhaps another OG strain you can recommend for optimal scrogging?

 

[lordjin]

"The scrog will keep the tops even further away from my light, resulting in greater density and potency."

What? I don't understand this. Wouldn't the buds grow denser if they were closer? Especially being affected by the inverse square law?

You're exactly right, C. Indica. Gosh, you RIU growers are so smart, I can't get anything by you with my off-handed remarks, can I?

Let me add a little more detail to my original comment. I need to keep my tops further away from my light because they grow too aggressively in my setup. There is an optimal growth light zone above the negative fall-off zone you describe and below the too hot zone that will cause bleaching/heat stress. I gotta get mine lower down because I have too much problems with the top portions (the best parts) getting into the too hot zone. The heat stress causes the bud to actually lose density and not develop properly. It's the ones in the optimal zone, between the hot zone and the fall-off zone that grow the best. I need to even out my canopy and get it right in that middle optimal area.

 

[lordjin]

Shook a little brown sugar off my leaves and fluff.

In a word? Shockingly good. Wait, that's two words... oh, whatever. It makes an already great bowl into a dream-inducing bowl. I'm smoking Keif sprinkled bowls today. One might even say that I'm a Keifer today.

Edit: Keifer Sutherland is incredibly high today. I think I could have fun shopping for cars without any intention of buying one.

Edit Later On:
WTF? Did I really refer to myself as Keifer Sutherland? Weird.

 

[brandon727272]

Hella looking forward to your scrog. I wanna do one outdoor next year. Keep us posted man, you make work a lot more bareable lol XD

 

[daveroller]

So I had a head to head with one of my dispensary friends.

After examing a good portion of my bud carefully, he reported that I went too long in his opinion, and they may have lost potency due to this fact. The tiny yellow tips on the bud leaves and some of the actual buds themselves served as the indicator for him. I'm not one to string up someone with a counter-opinion, especially if they have knowledge about bud, so I'm considering what he said, and I'm tending to agree with him.

I was in such a mindset of letting them mature fully this time, I didn't take into consideration that I should shave like a week, maybe two off my overall grow compared to what the strain recommendation says. That's actually what my dispensary buddy said. He said my mistake was listening to the strain recommendation with such a hyper grow system like mine... those general flowering recommendations assuming that you're growing in soil.

So for my next round, here are the improvements I'm shooting for:

I'll scrog for sure to crowd in more main tops.

The scrog will keep the tops even further away from my light, resulting in greater density and potency.

I will NOT over-ripen. Looking back on my journal, it's clear to me now where I missed the optimal window for harvest.

Live and Learn. I'm no exception.

Edit:

I will never rest until I have acheived perfection. Never. Guess I'm gonna have to start thinking about my next one.

It's a good thing that he was someone whose opinions you respected. If he weren't, I could picture you punching him in the nose. Even if he is right, though, you still have some top quality reefer to sell. The proof is in the pudding. You know how you FEEL after smoking the Diablo. That's all that counts. If you're in doubt, let a few friends of yours try a little and get their opinions.

 

[lordjin]

It's a good thing that he was someone whose opinions you respected. If he weren't, I could picture you punching him in the nose. Even if he is right, though, you still have some top quality reefer to sell. The proof is in the pudding. You know how you FEEL after smoking the Diablo. That's all that counts. If you're in doubt, let a few friends of yours try a little and get their opinions.

Hi. Thanks, again, Dave. I have no problem with the Diablo. I'm still having a great time with it. I've gotten other opinions and they all think it's out of this world as I do.

 

[ru4r34l]

Shook a little brown sugar off my leaves and fluff.

In a word? Shockingly good. Wait, that's two words... oh, whatever. It makes an already great bowl into a dream-inducing bowl. I'm smoking Keif sprinkled bowls today. One might even say that I'm a Keifer today.

Edit: Keifer Sutherland is incredibly high today. I think I could have fun shopping for cars without any intention of buying one.

Edit Later On:
WTF? Did I really refer to myself as Keifer Sutherland? Weird.

Ah, with great BUD comes exceptional keif.

regards,

 

[C.Indica]

I'm very jealous of your slavebud.
You whipped it hard, and got what you wanted.
Fuck the dispensary guy, enjoy it yourself.

 

[323cheezy]

You got me, Cheezy. You got me. Though I'd like to mention dsmoke1's point of view was valid... It was my mistake not applying it exactly right to this particular strain. Pictures can only say so much... If he had seen them in person, he probably would have suggested harvesting a little sooner too.

Thanks for your dispensary insight. It was an interesting read. My little shop is a small mom and pop on the corner. I don't vend to the bigger shops as they have their own set vendors and tend to stick with them, you're right about that.

Yeah, dude. You sound like you know yer OG, and I'm impressed by the quality of your up close nug photos. I definitely have a mind to connect with you on genetics. I would love to show the results of my efforts to your shop friends as well when I'm done. Just let me sort out my screen and get that installed. I just need to get some minor details in order for my next which will be a scrog. I'll Scrog your Lou, or perhaps another OG strain you can recommend for optimal scrogging?

hey jin...
I just want to mention that i dont really sell to colectives anymore..
I smoke allot and have a small circle of patients that i tend to deal with....
I have moved on from dealing with certain people .... they want quality at to low a price for me...
And at this point id rather just keep it for myself...
That being said ...I have allot going on this next grow...
And since quality has been so great .... i decided to up the ante..
I will have no choice to look back into the shops ...

hope you can meet up soon ... these cuts are going fast .....
Im trying to keep a nice rotation for you wen you ready to start something new..
Remember.... i would never charge u man .... i just find myself ... wishing the best for you.....
And hope these cuts will help you out brotha....
let me know....

 

[BluBerry]

Options for the screen are endless. Don't use small chicken wire. I prefer to use holes 2-2.5 inches in diameter.
Seems to be the ideal hole size. Nylon rope or twine would prob be the best. IMO
I used wood as my support frame and screwed it into the cab walls.
Some say that the wood if not primed will cause mold growth on the wood.
I have yet to see any problems at all with mold or anything after 2 grows.
Don't put too much thought into it. It is only a screen.
The hardest part of doing a scrog for me is access to the far side of the plant and figuring out your fill and drain.
Which I'm sure you will have that figured out easily. Some also wait til they show sex before putting under the screen.
IMO you're not doing a scrog by doing this because the plants are not training and stretching to the screen.
You will then be basically using the screen for support. That's not the idea behind the scrog.
So if you have clones then stick em directly under the screen and make them bitches big and bad. You will have some beast.