Thursday Night Chop Down!

stoneyluv

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Very nice looking, that is an insane amount of crystals! Just caught up with recent stuff on your thread. What are you using to veg them with? Your plants all look awesome man!
Thanks dude!!! I am vegging with a 120W Tri band LED, from HTG supply. I believe they have discontinued selling the model right after i bought it. before i had the GLH's i used it to flower with along with eight 23W CFL's.

this beatiful

Es una hermosa cosecha Felicitaciones :)
mucha gracias amigo!!!
 

KawiZZR

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Thanks dude!!! I am vegging with a 120W Tri band LED, from HTG supply. I believe they have discontinued selling the model right after i bought it. before i had the GLH's i used it to flower with along with eight 23W CFL's.
Do you think it'd be worthwhile to get a cheapy LED to veg with? I already have CFLs from my first grow that I'm gonna use for now, but I feel like even a cheap 90w ufo will cover more than 4 27w bulbs?
 

stoneyluv

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very frosty buds !!!! sample?
Thank you!! no, i didn't sample any, except for the scissor hash that put me out last night!!!


Do you think it'd be worthwhile to get a cheapy LED to veg with? I already have CFLs from my first grow that I'm gonna use for now, but I feel like even a cheap 90w ufo will cover more than 4 27w bulbs?
A cheap LEd panel is good to veg with. it's the 660nm of red that is hard for LED companies to achieve. the 440nm of blue required is easy and cheap to get diodes for.

Yes, a 90w ufo would cover much more than four 27w CFL's. honestly four CFL's isn't enough to grow one plant properly. Adding more CFL's would be much cheaper but your heat does go up a bit. an LED wouldn't raise the temp much at all. plus with a 90w ufo you would get the same PAR value of 250W MH.
 

chb444220

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lookin good as always man! love all ur strains!! hopefully youll have a nice new strain to add to the veg box soon! =!
 

stoneyluv

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very nice bro!!!
Thank you CD!!!! things should be getting bigger soon!!!

lookin good as always man! love all ur strains!! hopefully youll have a nice new strain to add to the veg box soon! =!
Thanks bro!!! I am anticipating a new strain to start very soon!!! It's gonna be very similar to what you were growing!!! the new ones are gonna get done up right to... in 5 gal buckets with the best soil i have!!!!

Those are some frosty ass nugs!!! what state are the trichomes when you harvested?
thanks gumball!! they were very young.... i was starting to get low on nugs an I have a few parties coming up and wanted to make sure i wouldn't run out for myself.

i would say that u shot ur load a lil early but dam thats sum frosty shit bro
back at it under a new name!!!! good to have ya back Doc!! and yes, there is no foolin you... there are quite a few clear tric's!!! had to do it...
 

KawiZZR

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A cheap LEd panel is good to veg with. it's the 660nm of red that is hard for LED companies to achieve. the 440nm of blue required is easy and cheap to get diodes for.

Yes, a 90w ufo would cover much more than four 27w CFL's. honestly four CFL's isn't enough to grow one plant properly. Adding more CFL's would be much cheaper but your heat does go up a bit. an LED wouldn't raise the temp much at all. plus with a 90w ufo you would get the same PAR value of 250W MH.
Okay, might look into one of those eventually then, but think I'll put priority on getting a nice one for flowering first. And 4 was just an arbitrary number as that's how many I have over some clones right now while I wait for them to root. I can get at least 10 in the veg area, more if I add additional y-splitters. Do you have any recommendations for a decent ufo that isn't too pricey? I'm guessing that I shouldn't look at anything that doesn't have at least 1w diodes even for veg?

Would this work? http://www.htgsupply.com/Product-90-Watt-LED-UFO-Grow.asp

Btw thanks for taking the time to walk me through all this man, I really appreciate it!
 

stoneyluv

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Okay, might look into one of those eventually then, but think I'll put priority on getting a nice one for flowering first. And 4 was just an arbitrary number as that's how many I have over some clones right now while I wait for them to root. I can get at least 10 in the veg area, more if I add additional y-splitters. Do you have any recommendations for a decent ufo that isn't too pricey? I'm guessing that I shouldn't look at anything that doesn't have at least 1w diodes even for veg?

Btw thanks for taking the time to walk me through all this man, I really appreciate it!
I'm not sure off the top of my head... I'll snoop a little bit for ya and see if i see any "must grab" deals.... I know GLH is releasing one very soon, I heard it will fit inside a PC case!!!!!

and yes, stay at least 1W diodes. that is what i use for veg and it seems to be doing great. it replaced 270W of CFL and 75W of HPS for me. I am now pulling about 110W. so I saved 235watts for 24 hrs a day, and it's growing better!!
 

KawiZZR

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I'm not sure off the top of my head... I'll snoop a little bit for ya and see if i see any "must grab" deals.... I know GLH is releasing one very soon, I heard it will fit inside a PC case!!!!!

and yes, stay at least 1W diodes. that is what i use for veg and it seems to be doing great. it replaced 270W of CFL and 75W of HPS for me. I am now pulling about 110W. so I saved 235watts for 24 hrs a day, and it's growing better!!
Damn, that sounds awesome, I'd end up around 330w of CFL (4-42w and 6-27w) so it would be similar savings and cooling comparison. I edited above and added the link for a 90w veg ufo htg has, but if GLH is coming out with something that'd work for this I'm sure it'll be superior. Think I may have to send Mike an email asking about it, thanks for the heads up on that.
 

stoneyluv

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Damn, that sounds awesome, I'd end up around 330w of CFL (4-42w and 6-27w) so it would be similar savings and cooling comparison. I edited above and added the link for a 90w veg ufo htg has, but if GLH is coming out with something that'd work for this I'm sure it'll be superior. Think I may have to send Mike an email asking about it, thanks for the heads up on that.
I wouldn't buy it if it were me. there is way to much marketing BS on that description. The GLH one will be no joke... it will draw 90W not contain 90 1W diodes. That is where the BS starts... any company that claims they have 90 one watt diodes and the panel draws 90W is full of it!!! no LED on the planet can run at 100% power. well they all can just for only a second or two... the diodes themselves can only run at like 55% value or something like that... the drivers that power the LED's are just as important. this is why blackstar has such great success... they have great drivers powering their diodes.

send Mike an email... he may even be selling them already and just didn't get it up on the website yet... as a second option i found a couple links that are worthy of checking into... If you are going for 1W diodes and want to cover 3x3 i suggest 120 degree lenses also. GLH are 90 degree. but there will be much more of them than the BS models.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Quad-Band-Hydroponic-2W-x-45-LED-90-Watt-UFO-Grow-Light-/330538632707?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4cf5a34603

http://cgi.ebay.com/90W-QUAD-BAND-LED-GROW-LIGHT-UFO-90-WATT-QUADBAND-/310319484135?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item48407b8ce7
 

KawiZZR

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I wouldn't buy it if it were me. there is way to much marketing BS on that description. The GLH one will be no joke... it will draw 90W not contain 90 1W diodes. That is where the BS starts... any company that claims they have 90 one watt diodes and the panel draws 90W is full of it!!! no LED on the planet can run at 100% power. well they all can just for only a second or two... the diodes themselves can only run at like 55% value or something like that... the drivers that power the LED's are just as important. this is why blackstar has such great success... they have great drivers powering their diodes.

send Mike an email... he may even be selling them already and just didn't get it up on the website yet... as a second option i found a couple links that are worthy of checking into... If you are going for 1W diodes and want to cover 3x3 i suggest 120 degree lenses also. GLH are 90 degree. but there will be much more of them than the BS models.
Thought I read the htg light used 2w diodes, I'll check again. It's because my cab is so narrow that I've stuck with CFLs so far. Got about 19" of depth, and currently using 23" width but could use about 47" if moved things around a bit. If I veg in the wider area the height is fixed at 20" and I think that may be a bit too short, but if that'd still work fine I can do that. In the morning I'll get a pic of the overall cab as it is right now to show you what I mean.
 

Psychild

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Looking good stoney....you convince me more and more every time you update, to go LED. Hopefully someday soon I can take that route. √√
 

theoldmerchant

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Stoney what it do? I still haven't upgraded my light setup but I'm working on it. I keep going back and forth between LED and HPS. I want to go the LED route but you can get 400w HPS systems from htg for 120 bucks, and that sounds nice because I'm strapped! Just worried about keeping the temps down out here in the desert. Love the giant growbox you built, those LEDs are too sick. Nasty nugs as always brah. :leaf:
 

fartman

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290 006.jpg290 007.jpg290 014.jpg290 011.jpg290 010.jpgwell stoney i finally got my bud room finished ,got my spectra 290 hung,and its thei290 009.jpgr 1st day under it.here some pics of my bagweed seed plants that were budding with the ufos, i planted 3 new seeds 2 short riders and 1 white w290 013.jpgidow so far 1 ww and 1 sr have sprouted i used miracle gro starter soil i just dont know when to water it ,it always seems dry to me,ill have to290 012.jpg get used to growing this way when they are about 2 weeks im gonna replant in peat moss and perlite and use guano tea recipes i got from irish,y290 008.jpgour box seems brighter but you got 2 180s and i have 1 290. any thing you see in the pics that you can help me improve on please do.thanks bro290 015.jpg
 
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