I have no idea wtf I'm doing wrong, do you?

panhead

panhead

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You were running a 1600 ppm in veg & upped it to around 2000 in flower?,your ppms are way too high at all levels of grow, you should be between 1,000 & 1,200 at all times.
 
panhead

panhead

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MrGhettoGrower said:
When your plants are full size in flowering you go 1000-1200 ppm's:clap:Not at all times or you will burn your seedlings:lol:
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Very true,i dont do seedlings,i do very large clones but still at lower ppms,i run clones @ 600 ppm for a week then straight to flower @ 1,000 ppm,as the plant changes i adjust the npk mix ratios but never above 1,200 when the buds are at peak growth rate.

At those ratios my ph floats between 5 & 7 from water levels changing in the res & holds pretty steady when i top the res off.

If i was doing seedlings or small to mid sized clones i'd run about 400 ppm max.
 
Robert Paulson

Robert Paulson

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anyone ever done ebb and flow as well as aero? i was just curious if ppm levels are relatively similar.

there is no way of saying a definitive ppm level for every point of a plants life, only ball park levels. every strain likes a different amount. my super silver haze and white widow would burn in flower if the ppm's got above 1000. strain is everything.
 
dbkick

dbkick

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hoagtech said:
@OP
Do you mind if I see some of your diy aeroflo pics? Im a fan of them
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Here are a few at various stages, I'm already about to scrap it and go ebb and gro.There are things I like about it , like the ability to uncap either end to make it drain (this is good for switching one rail at a time to flush, I'm running 3 rails in 3 week cycles). It works the way I want I suppose .
 

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dbkick

dbkick

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Robert Paulson said:
anyone ever done ebb and flow as well as aero? i was just curious if ppm levels are relatively similar.

there is no way of saying a definitive ppm level for every point of a plants life, only ball park levels. every strain likes a different amount. my super silver haze and white widow would burn in flower if the ppm's got above 1000. strain is everything.
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This is a point I've thought about , I was running like 1000 ppm tops in DWC before I got tired of maintaining a bunch of buckets. I cycle the times on and off of the pump that feeds the rails too on the diy aeroflo so its not like they are being constantly sprayed with a strong nutrient solution, although even spraying at intervals I'm sure to high a ppm solution would burn but what I'm saying is its not like I'm taking a small clone from veg and putting it in flower at a much higher ppm , I veg for 30 days or so and the plant is usually pretty good sized. I have however been putting very young clones in high ppm veg nutrient with no problem. This is a different type of system in veg, hybrid aero/nft/half assed dwc.
 
hoagtech

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dbkick said:
Here are a few at various stages, I'm already about to scrap it and go ebb and gro.There are things I like about it , like the ability to uncap either end to make it drain (this is good for switching one rail at a time to flush, I'm running 3 rails in 3 week cycles). It works the way I want I suppose .
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Thats a clever use of the copper Hose adapter for the manifold. Nice
 
bluemagicman

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I'd agree with everyone else, looks like over ferts, with my nutes i always say less is better because you can always increase your ppm, but once the plant absorbs it's not as easy getting them out, kind of like a lobster trap :)
 
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razer

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Nute burn with foxfarm? come on guys u ever used the stuff its next to impossible to do that i swear 4 year old can grow chronic with that stuff .Im voting ph issue...flush the slut with heeps of ph balanced goodness
 
dbkick

dbkick

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razer said:
Nute burn with foxfarm? come on guys u ever used the stuff its next to impossible to do that i swear 4 year old can grow chronic with that stuff .Im voting ph issue...flush the slut with heeps of ph balanced goodness
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Actually I use AN sensi grow/bloom a/b.
 
bluemagicman

bluemagicman

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razer said:
Nute burn with foxfarm? come on guys u ever used the stuff its next to impossible to do that i swear 4 year old can grow chronic with that stuff .Im voting ph issue...flush the slut with heeps of ph balanced goodness
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Dude you can burn your plants with any nutes, Ill share my secret for growin right here right now, it's all in the balance, don't be so naive
 
RIXUK

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dbkick said:
Yeah that third photo is one thats about to go into flush so it may be half assed normal . I'll get in there in a couple hours and dump yet another expensive res full on the yard( should be a healthy lawn, bud candy and all :/). flush with clearex and run nothing but base sensi 2 part at 1200 ppm or so. I've already been thru this actually I think but I didn't flush with clearex, only water. Thanks for all the advice people, I'll post update sometime possibly if it clears up. Also I have been having ph swing down, which is totally opposite of what I usually get which is a drift up.
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Have you checked if you have hard or soft water??
First 2 look ok,3rd has issues,look like some heat stress too.
You dont have to dump the res just water it down
 
dbkick

dbkick

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RIXUK said:
Have you checked if you have hard or soft water??
First 2 look ok,3rd has issues,look like some heat stress too.
You dont have to dump the res just water it down
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the water quality is pretty good here. I'm thinking the same as most everyone seems to think, I gave them quite a bit of too strong nutrient.
 
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watchhowIdoit

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purpz said:
Over fertilizing, leaves are curling down w/ burnt tip. Advanced Nutrients is one of the worst when it comes to salts in there fertilizer. Not that there is anything wrong with A.N. just be careful & go easy. Looks like your girls could use a flush.
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Salts are salts. ANs are no different from the rest. What make theirs worse is the price....oh ya, most of the things you are feeding yor plants is a salt or salt based, as far as the big 3 go that is...
 
dbkick

dbkick

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Word, I cut my nutrient back to 600-700 and still get dead yellowing leaves over night. my hydro shop says its nitrogen def . I took back 10 liters of sensi bloom a/b and will find out today whether AN stands by their return policy, I'll more than likely replace it with either more sensi bloom or the more expensive connoisseur
 
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