We shall see. But I still love My TGA Subcool. The smells, tastes and highs are all amazing. However if these sannies out do them (I'm going to grow both TGA Subcool and Sannies seeds at the same time to run them up against eachother.top shelf all the way.
sannies jack (& karma's) are considered to be the best jacks in "the grow game" ...by breeders and people in the know.
bar none type stuff.
herijuana isnt a sannie creation... comes by way of motarebel ...by way of woodhorse & the state of kentucky.
i've grown tga sevral times & i've sampled cali connect herbs (with packs of jamaican me crazy & jedi kush in my stash).
heri (extrema too) is on par with anything you'll ever put in a paper, pipe, glass bong, or vape.
stupid dank.
taste is a subjective thing so that's for you to decide.
chocolate rain isnt breed by sannie, rather it is an e$kobar creation.
& he's somebody with as much time in the game (and big respect from peeps like soma & big buddah) as any of the other names mentioned in this thread.
more top shelf dank made with elite cuts... what's not to like?
maybe get off tga's nuts & try somethig else
there's plenty of killer stuff out there that will easily blow space queen and vortex to the "i let that mother go" file.
Thanks TSM, I'm always trying new strains out in my grow. I do one or two of each seed only so I can get variety in my plant limits. For example right now I got 2 Jillybeans, 2 Alphakroniks Superbombs, 1 Mosca Seeds TSI Fly.I'm growing out Killing Fields f3 atm so I'll get back to you on how I rate it smoke wise very soon, I'm very happy with them so far they look fantastic growing/flowering really fast & strong, like gudkarma said there's loads of variety out there these days you'd only be depriving yourself really out of trying something different that will most likely blow your mind imo and you'll get to try something a bit different from the same old strains your used to by now too. Subcool has some good strains in his line up, true, but some of these lesser known breeders have some really great strains just waiting to be the classics of the future yet to be realised, Gage Green & Connoisseur Genetic's also have some fire lookin strains that I'll be growing quite a few of them out after my latest exp' with Grape Stomper OG & Sour Hazy Jones. And Karma genetic's has a few that have caught my eye too.
Sannie & crew have all those great reviews for a reason, I'm glad I was put onto them now (thanx RB!!) and since I found how good they are for myself now I've recommended them to everyone else to try at least once too, if your into your sattys mate Sannies are well worth checking out for sure.
What TGA Subcool strain do you think would go well with Chocolate Rain??yah, i don't really know what else to add after those two posts as they both are on top of their game and know what's what for sure.. gudkarma knows his stuff inside and out as does skunk munkie for sure, both very knowledgeable people to ask for and listen to the advice imho..
but yah, i've also grown a lot of sannies stuff, and have yet to be let down, and most of all that chocolate rain was unbelievably good to say the least..
I never buy the first release. Especially with the hype surround PlushBerry. I will eventually order them tho but it may be a couple years.none
cause esko's crosses & genetics & integrity are in their own league.
i see in another thread you're looking to make a cross with chocolate rain.
in that regard, you just have to pick your plants, make the seeds, and grow them out.
try anything you have. make the childrens. & report back.
if you got it, i vote plushberry.
I'm sure sub has some of sannies genetics crossed in some of his strains with an answer like that........ he'd be a fool not to........ but of course they're gonna keep it on the DL and not say so.... I dont care what breeder it is.... im sure they all do it.....they have to get their genetics SOMEWHERE.... and if besides himself, he thinks sannies is the best, then plushberry could very easily be a jackberry cross, and so on......he may say black cherry soda x space queen, but it could very easily be BCS x a Jackberry x Space Queen cross..... not like if anyone but him would truly know....... and i wouldnt blame him 1 bit.....We shall see. But I still love My TGA Subcool. The smells, tastes and highs are all amazing. However if these sannies out do them (I'm going to grow both TGA Subcool and Sannies seeds at the same time to run them up against eachother.
However, I think i'll always have some TGA Subcool vortex, flav, or querkle in my grow. And for the record in the chatroom here about a year ago maybe longer Subcool was in the room answering questions. I asked him which breeder other then his seeds he would recommend someone buying for true dankness, and he answered Sannies. So thats actually the reason I decided to go for it and grow new stuff.
Just setting the record straight before I see how good stuff from sannies site is.
Edit: and Gudkarma, thank you for your answer. +Rep. Great informative post!
And not a single fuck was given that day on RIU.I'm sure sub has some of sannies genetics crossed in some of his strains with an answer like that........ he'd be a fool not to........ but of course they're gonna keep it on the DL and not say so.... I dont care what breeder it is.... im sure they all do it.....they have to get their genetics SOMEWHERE.... and if besides himself, he thinks sannies is the best, then plushberry could very easily be a jackberry cross, and so on......he may say black cherry soda x space queen, but it could very easily be BCS x a Jackberry x Space Queen cross..... not like if anyone but him would truly know....... and i wouldnt blame him 1 bit.....
E$kobar is one of those rare people that the mari scene needs more of imo, I'm a member over at opengrow (haven't contributed much yet though) and have read loads of posts from him that show just what kinda guy he is, I like the way he works too and have some of his gear still to try in my own stash, Chem X Cocoa Kush, Choco Mix and Reclining Budha X Ladycane too, as soon as I have the space I'm gonna throw some into germ. Like I already said Sannie & crew have those great reviews for a reason, they're in it for the love of mari not money too from what I can make outnone
cause esko's crosses & genetics & integrity are in their own league.
i see in another thread you're looking to make a cross with chocolate rain.
in that regard, you just have to pick your plants, make the seeds, and grow them out.
try anything you have. make the childrens. & report back.
if you got it, i vote plushberry.
wtf is up YOUR ass, man?And not a single fuck was given that day on RIU.
I blame nobody for being a potsnob. Only people who are very picky about their Cannabis are worth listening to by a Med Grower like me. I love quality and i'm always on the hunt for the best strain. I do have to admit tho Vortex is one of my favorites of all time. I had it a year ago and I miss it which is why it will be in my next grow.if your man's genetics (sub) are so awesome any drop he makes should be well tested. and, a new release doesn't equate to "risk" or "low quality" in my mind.
if anything , scoop up new gear and pheno hunt.
most respectfully, you do know what "hybrid vigour" is & how it relates to new gear (f1) ?
shit, even more to the point, if subs gear was priced better maybe more people would run it & have the tga experience for themselves. $100+ for a pack of beans does not equate to quality in any way.
and the new scam i see going on all over, of which you buddy takes part , is to "lower" the price of a pack of beans by offering less seeds (5) to the consumer. the fact these canna geniuses have settled on 10 seeds as the norm (versus 15 or 20) already pisses me off but 5 reg seeds giving normal male/female ratios, wtf!
if we compare just dollars & cents, strictly imo, sannie destroys sub gear. f6 jack => 10 beans for $50! f3 this, f4 that all under $50. & every cross in sannie's shop is made with elite gear & big selections.
i have vortex drying now... last run forever. lame yeilder. okay taste. great cloner! beautiful looking buds. B+ no better. as usual with these tga pulls (which give me less weight than any strain i run) i plan to sell every gram & keep very little.
even more, a fine farmer friend was embarrased to send me "agent orange" cuts when i was seeking a dank skunk . i am just so critical of overpriced bullshit. you hear?
i have legion og (pestilince og x mass super skunk) in the mix as my skunky girl instead.
sick dank herb!
& my dude would not send me (gudkarma + cuts = free always) "agent" cuts to run as he knew i would just wind up pissed off ...& this farmer has made repeated runs with vortex, spacequeen, & agent orange. he does love spacequeen by the way!
on the other hand, i just harvested "extrema"... & keeping every gram for me. share none. sell none.
i def dont knock subcool as a person, as a commited farmer, as someone who shares information, as an individual GREAT for the sceen, as an accessable guy, a smart player in the canna game, and more.
his gear unfortunately is not for me.
finally, OP, you make a cross with tga & chocolate rain. do it! ===> make a small batch of beans and send me some. i WILL run them
legion og pics (breed by inkcognyto of the green lantern seed co) attached
I agree Subcools yields arn't as big as some others. But because its all for me to smoke I don't worry about that. Instead I veg his gear longer and then I get a great amount of smoke I love. Right now in veg I got 2 Qrazy Trains, 3 Flavs (Couldn't resist, I frakking LOVE the Flav and hope to make more seeds with it), and 1 clone i was gifted by a friend. Something called 7, i'm not quite sure what it is but he told me it was awesome when he gave it to me among his other clones.i can only say what has been my experience so far killing fields-vs-querkle gonna smoke a sample of k/f soon but its looking like killing fields is gonna be the winner here ive got qrazy train in the works to go heads-up against jackberry i try not to mention subcool & yield in the same sentence though sannie is earning his way into my room