What Do You Think?

[tristynhawk]

ROFLMAO some people on here are so uptight it's fucking hilarious. Everyone acts all defensive and shit, like their way is the best way it's a god damn weed and will grow without are help when it comes down to it. Some people are like a never fuck up or you got do this or it will die

 

[gobskiii]

lol...when you bury it to the cotys...most of that turns to root ( tree gear) and LBH yes i am comparing it to a telephone pole...same concept. why is it so hard for you to comprehend...and it happens no matter what you do. it doesnt stretch out of control, but there is almost always an inch or 2 or 3 of stem under the cots...you would put a fan on a plant that has stretched to the point of having 5 or 6 in. between nodes? crazy in my opinion...and for you to act like you would never let stretch happen is BS as well...your not perfect. the whole point of this was to help someone support his plant that is stretched...lol and putting a fan on it immediately is not gunna fix it. do what you want folks...listen to LBH...the man who doesnt grasp simple concepts as physics...and i am reading up all the time...on my 3rd. grow now as a matter of fact, and have dealt with plenty...again "bud" simple physics. its is actually baffeling to me that you say not to bury to the cots if a plant is stretched...put a fan on it...absolutely ignorant. IMHO

 

[gobskiii]

ya...some people is right...i wasnt trying to disrespect anyone LBH...but can you tell me why burying them to the cots is the wrong thing to do? root developement? just explained, and its added support. i think its a win win situation if you ask me...but maybe theres something im missing...please. tell me ears open...mouth shut...at any rate im done bickering on this guys thread. im def. down to continue disputing somwehere else...and yes i can take some pics for compare and contrast...i have a strong healthy stem, and on another some extra that i will be burying shortly.

 

[LBH]

..you would put a fan on a plant that has stretched to the point of having 5 or 6 in. between nodes? crazy in my opinion

Um,....no, If I want 5 or 6" between nodes I'll let it stretch to that, if I don't want it to stretch,......I simply don't let it. Too confusing for you?

...and for you to act like you would never let stretch happen is BS

If I "LET stretch happen", it's because I'm trying to fill a screen with a plant that is far too compact. Happens rarelty but yess, I do intentionally stretch a plant or 2 every few yrs. However, if you are insinuating my plants get stretched on accident,...well, that might go on in your rooms but not in mine. Check urself, you're clueless.

.your not perfect

Never claimed to be. I'm learning more and more every day I'm alive. Just not from you

.lol and putting a fan on it immediately is not gunna fix it

Yes, it will.. Keep commenting on stuff you've obviously never done, gives you lots of street credit,lol

do what you want folks...listen to LBH...the man who doesnt grasp simple concepts as physics...and i am reading up all the time...on my 3rd. grow now as a matter of fact, and have dealt with plenty...again "bud" simple physics. its is actually baffeling to me that you say not to bury to the cots if a plant is stretched...put a fan on it...absolutely ignorant. IMHO

you're entitled to your opinion but it's only ignorant if you comment on it without doing it because I, and many here will tell you,...THAT'S how you build a plant to be stronger. Supporting it or replanting it up to its neck does not fix the problem at hand, it's a band-aid. You may have to prop it up for the first few hours if it stretched to the point of falling over but after that, the fan does it's work. You'll have substantially more rigidity in a few days. The way most do it is you place the plant off to one side of the light and add the fan from the opposite side so the plant has to fight the fan to grow towards the light. Super stalk in the making.

Did I say burying it to its neck it didn't work? no, I said it's not the optimal solution. When you have a problem, eliminate, don't compensate. I'll tell you what, let's agree to disagree, my yields speak for themselves and I'm done defending myself to a guy with 3 grows and an attitude.

OP, if you need some more help, feel free to pm me if you'd like

 

[MRGreenThum]

jj7414 Just to let you know your plants look good but when alluminum foil gets creased and bent the light reflection drops to nearly nothing so try to brace them with som cardboard or something and try and flatten it all out it will help alot more.

 

[Dan Kone]

and i always bury my seed leaves to nothing wrong with that.

as do I when necessary. No reason to have a big ass stem.

 

[TreeGear]

Gobskii, i never said you were wrong, you're just funny. i grow from clone anyway with HPS so i never have that issue. Seeds are so 1980, the strains I grow aren't available by seed.

 

[LBH]

No reason to have a big ass stem.

There is for me, I want a big ass plant!!

 

[Dan Kone]

There is for me, I want a big ass plant!!

I'm familiar with big ass plants. I want them too, but I don't want pointlessly long main stems with support issues on them. I'd rather have them branch out right near the dirt so they are easier to brace.

I've always used the bury method so I can get plants with branching that starts near the soil instead of dealing with unnecessary height and stability issues. Maybe there are other ways to accomplish that, idk, but burring them works just fine for me. There is no problem getting them big enough. Here's a couple of plants that I burried the stems on, as you can see, they are just fine. No issues with being too small:



There isn't always just one right way to grow. What works for some doesn't work for others. You may have a method that works just fine for you, but that doesn't mean no one else has a different and also correct answer. Thanks for sharing your experience.

 

[gobskiii]

we r both in the right...like u said we do it differently...done.

 

[cannabis420420]

Jus wanna know what people think

very nice start

 

[gobskiii]

da kone...that fan leaf in the second pic. is EPIIICC! wow...amazing.

 

[LBH]

Dan I was JUST reading a thread , casnt remember which, but the guy used the same size and height smart pots and what he does is build a cage of the same mesh you have there but it looks like the squares are about 10". He just encircles the smart pot with about a 8' cut of the fencing. When the plants are about the size urs are now, they are just beginning to grow outside the cage. By the time flowering comes, the cage is gone but it looks like the perfect skeleton for plants that size. Just a thought. If I come across the thread, I'll link you in a pm.

My application is different now, I'm 100% scrog so support and stability are not an issue but I still want as fat of a mainline to those buds as I can get.

da kone...that fan leaf in the second pic. is EPIIICC! wow...amazing.

HOLY SHIT!!!! I have one the size of my head,....I thought THAT was something.....wow Even in my outdoor days, I've never seen anything that size and I've been in quite a few gardens over the years. Pic saved for sure. You need to send that to high times pix of the crop, winner, all day.

 

[MRGreenThum]

Dan Kone Just wondering what size smart pots are those?

 

[LBH]

Here it is Dan

 

[gobskiii]

i never thought to use those cages for MJ...always use them for my tomatoes to keep animals out, and support for the big tomatoes. great idea

 

[Dan Kone]

Dan I was JUST reading a thread , casnt remember which, but the guy used the same size and height smart pots and what he does is build a cage of the same mesh you have there but it looks like the squares are about 10".

probably jj. Yeah, he's got a nice grow going on. Yes, we use the same pots. I'd like to use 200g's, but I have height constraints. My clearance is only 14-15'. I difficult for me to keep them short enough in 100g's, so I use those.

He just encircles the smart pot with about a 8' cut of the fencing. When the plants are about the size urs are now, they are just beginning to grow outside the cage.

It's a solid method, probably better than mine, but those cages piss me off cause I can't access anything near the main stem easily, so I do a rope support system at about 6' and poll supports instead.

By the time flowering comes, the cage is gone but it looks like the perfect skeleton for plants that size. Just a thought. If I come across the thread, I'll link you in a pm.

I'm following it.

My application is different now, I'm 100% scrog so support and stability are not an issue but I still want as fat of a mainline to those buds as I can get.

ahhh. yeah. you don't have to worry about it then. I've scrog'd my hydro room a few times before. I couldn't get it to yield as good so I ditched it and went back to just topped plants individually supported by stake teepee's.

HOLY SHIT!!!! I have one the size of my head,....I thought THAT was something.....wow

Yep. fuckers are getting huge on me. I'm bending/breaking stems just to keep them in check.

 

[Dan Kone]

Dan Kone Just wondering what size smart pots are those?

100g. Don't have the room for 200's

 

[gobskiii]

dan. got some nice plants man...definately going to keep watching this. i may try an outside grow next year...really thinkin about it. esp. now. my indoor grow is very small. about 2 ft. tall, and get on average 19-20 grams dried off meh plants...not great. but to see what these babies can do outside is always amazing.

 

[Dan Kone]

dan. got some nice plants man...definately going to keep watching this. i may try an outside grow next year...really thinkin about it. esp. now. my indoor grow is very small. about 2 ft. tall, and get on average 19-20 grams dried off meh plants...not great. but to see what these babies can do outside is always amazing.

My indoor system is much better than my outdoor

Yeah, I'm very happy with my genetics outdoor this year, most of those plants have 20% THC potential. I just hope it goes ok. I prefer the instant gratification of indoor to the patience and uncertainty of outdoor, but I still like to do a little outdoor patch every year. It's a fun challenge, and rewarding if it works out.