Irish Boy's 2011 Spectra Led Grow (Revenge Of Casey Jcnes))

irishboy

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Well I Got my 290's setup yesterday and the ladies are in love - perkin up nice to the new flavor of colors...... I'm still deciding which way to position them based on my other lights, but I think I've got them in an ok spot for now. I left a 1ft gap between the 1kw hood and the first LED, then another 12 inches between the 1st and 2nd led. Have about 12 plants under them in 3-5 gallon pots and get pretty good coverage - could still probably put a few more under there (which I plan on doing after some newly transplanted teenies start to settle in a couple days). I've got 2 of my monster DWC's under the 1kw by themselves lol, with one of them hanging over into LED land (3 nice arms are getting saturated by led). I'll have to get some pics up later. Still have some transplanting to do (12 total transplants tonight, and 6 5gal res changes on DWC in veg - Fuck this shit is a lot of work, haha) I like to do all my work at night, it was fucking 112 out today, and my garage is sweating like a fucker. Its 2am and its still 93 degrees outside hahaha. Plus my ladies wake up at night, so I'm usually up until the sun comes up 430-5ish breathing on them and shit hahaha.
sounds sweet. post pics anytime of those led buds with the HID in the mix. u look into those lights and see how bright they are?lol. i know my 500's are crazy bright, never seen the 290's yet though
ok so i go like 50/50 peatmoss ,prilite? do you use bat guano etc..? once your seeds r germinated do you put them in this mixture or do u start out weaker, and please help me understand the watering system ,you say flush first ,but even thats over my head right now, and how often do you water ,and what nutes r u using, i know i will have to find a system for me but id like to start with a proven system such as yours and then tweak to my likings ,thanks bro im halfway to understanding and ive got a partial plan in my head ,keep carrying me bro so i can get fat buds too,karma rocks
i am not sure if its a 50/50 mix? its one bale of SS#4 and one big bag of chunky perlite.

here this ratios mix might help lots of people seem to love it. theirs also some organic feeding recipes.

Here are two very good organic soiless mixes...

LC's Mix is great for any stage of growth. You can germ seeds in it, grow mothers in it, root clones in it as well as veg and flower in it.

LC’s Soiless Mix #1:
5 parts Canadian Spaghnam Peat or Coir or Pro-Moss
3 parts perlite
2 parts wormcastings or mushroom compost or home made compost
Powdered (NOT PELLETIZED) dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
...Wal-Mart now sells worm castings.

Or, if you use Pro Mix or Sunshine Mix...
LC's Soiless Mix #2:
6 parts Pro Mix BX or HP / Sunshine Mix (any flavor from #1 up)
2 parts perlite
2 parts earthworm castings
Powdered (NOT PELLETIZED) dolomite lime @ 2 tablespoons per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of the soiless mix.
If you use a 3 qt. saucepan as “parts” in the amounts given above, it equals about 1 cu. ft. of soiless mix and you can just dump in a cup of powdered dolomite lime.
But, a "part" can be anything from a tablespoon to a five gallon bucket. Just use the same item for all of the "parts".

Now for the plants organic food source

Choose one of these organic plant food recipes to add to LC's Soiless Mix.

RECIPE #1
If you want to use organic nutes like blood, bone and kelp...
Dry Ferts:
1 tablespoon blood meal per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
2 tablespoons bone meal per gallon or 1 cup per cubic foot of soil mix
1-tablespoon kelp meal per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of soil mix or Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract as directed
1 tablespoon per gallon or 1/2 cup per cubic foot of Jersey Greensand to supplement the K (potasium) in the Kelp Meal and seaweed extract.
Mix all the dry ferts into the soiless mix well and wet it, but don't soak it with Liquid Karma and water @ 1 tbs./gal. Stir and mix it a few times a week for a week or two so the bacteria can get oxygen and break down the bone meal and make it available. And don't let the mix dry out, keep it moist and add water as needed. It'll also have time to get the humic acids in the Liquid Karma going and the dolomite lime will be better able to adjust the pH of a peat based mixture too.
With this recipe, all you need to do is add plain water until harvest.
When I'm working with seeds, I punch a hole in the bottom of 16 ounce cups and fill them with plain LC's Mix. Lightly wet the mix in the cups and germ one seed in each cup. At the same time I mix enough LC's mix along with the blood/bone/kelp to fill all the 3 gallon flower pots I'm going to use for the grow. After about two weeks, the seedlings and the blood/bone/kelp mix are ready. I transplant the seedlings into the 3 gallon pots and just add water until harvest.
When you go to flower and pull up the males, save the mix in the pots. It is ready to be used again immediately. Just remove the root ball and transplant another seedling into it.

RECIPE #2
If you want to use guano in your soil mix...
Bongaloid's Guano Mix.
Use all these items combined with one gallon of soil mix.
1/3C hi N Guano (Mexican Bat Guano)
1/2C hi P Guano (Jamaican or Indonesian Bat Guano)
1TBS Jersey Greensand
1TBS Kelp Meal


RECIPE #3 (My favorite)
If you want to use guano tea and kelp...

Guano Tea and Kelp:

Seedlings less than 1 month old nute tea mix-
Mix 1 cup earthworm castings into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
Add 5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses.
Use it to water your seedlings with every 3rd watering.

Veg mix-
1/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano (PSG)
1/3 cup High N Bat Guano (Mexican)
1/3 cup Earth Worm Castings (EWC)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 1 cup of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
Use it to water with every 3rd watering.

Flowering nute tea mix:
2/3 cup Peruvian Seabird Guano
2/3 cup Earth Worm Castings
2/3 cup High P Guano (Indonesian or Jamaican)
5 tsp. Maxicrop 1-0-4 powdered kelp extract
(That makes the "dry mix". You can make all you want and save it to use later.)
Mix with water @ 2 cups of dry mix into 5 gallons of water to make the tea.
To that 5 gallons of tea add:
5 tbs. Liquid Karma
5 tbs. Black Strap Molasses
Use it to water with EVERY watering.

You can use queen size knee high nylon stockings for tea bags. 3 pair for a dollar at the dollar store. Tell 'em you use them for paint strainers. Put the recommended tea in the stocking, tie a loop knot in it and hang it in your tea bucket. The tea should look like a mud puddle. Agitate the bag in the water vigorously. An aquarium pump and air stone will dissolve oxygen into the solution and keep the good bacteria (microherd) alive and thriving. Let it bubble a day or two before you use it. If you find you are making too much tea and having to throw it out, use 2 1/2 gallons of water and cut the nute amount by half.


RECIPE #4
Three Little Birds Method
40 gallons used soil
4 cups alfalfa meal
4 cups bone meal
4 cups kelp meal
4 cups powdered dolomite lime
30 pound bag of earthworm castings . . .
That’s the basic recipe . . .
However we also like to use
4 cups of Greensand
4 cups of Rock Phosphate
4 cups of diatomaceous earth


RECIPE #5
Fish and Seaweed (This is sooo easy)

For veg growth…
1 capful 5-1-1 Fish Emulsion
1 capful Neptune's Harvest 0-0-1 Seaweed or Maxicrop liquid
1 gallon H2O

For early flowering…
1 tbs. Neptune’s Harvest 2-3-1 Fish/Seaweed
1 gallon H2O

For mid to late flowering…
1 tbs. Neptune’s Harvest 2-4-1 Fish
1 gallon H2O


i dont grow in seeds i grow clones only but yes seeds will be fine in a little plastic beer cup and some SS#4 its not a hot mix at all. ive used bat guano in teas and like it allot, seaweed is one of the best things u can feed a plant also. ive never mixed guano in the medium though.

as far as how often i water i water when my plants need it their no set time, put what i like to do is feed my plants witch i am using Dyna Gro on this run but i feed two times in a row and then the 3rd feeding i give plan water to keep the salt build up in the nutes down.

now when i say flush 1st that with coco because it has high salt levels in it, no need to do that with most other mediums.
 

irishboy

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my intake and exhaust fan are the same CFM and i think i really need a higher intake to create less vacume because with my intake filter i think its less air coming in them out and the exhaust is just pulling in air from the attic threw leeks. for if i have more air coming in it should fill the air up with cooler air at night before it gets sucked out so fast and it will be more air so hot air threw the attic wont come in. makes sense to me
 

irishboy

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heres day 20. still no flowering highest temps have been 110F in the room. girls are still healthy for such insane temps but flowering is on delay big time. i got a great deal on some Humboldt honey es so that will be added to my feedings to see if it helps with photosynthesis?

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dapio

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man those mixes always make my head spin cups and gallons and parts not to mention a list of things I have never heard of before or dont care to even come across gross haha!

I have to admit though not knowing about all that stuff really makes me feel stupid growing plants in my little smart pots with coco.

110 Degrees and they are still looking that great wow!! that is truly amazing you figure they would be stressed out and droopy or something always nice to see an update on this journal hopefully the temperatures start playing more to your favor and we see some fat frosty buds on those ladies soon!
 

sparce

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At those temps aren't you affraid of Hermies?
Not that it would cut your heat by much ( or maybe it would) do you think just using one 500 light would give you coverage?
Still...........they look great........beats the hell outta me.......go get 'em!
 
welp here are some quick shots. not really going to start my own journal here, and don't want to thread jack - so I'll only post occasional pic updates :)

These things really get drowned out by the HPS. When I turned them on in my kitchen thursday they were too bright to look at, but when they are hooked up with the HPS firing 100%, I can look right at them.... and the canopy gets lighter and looks more violet than the deep red/pinkish. I was FRANKLY DISSAPOINTED at first. I was like WTF, these things are NOT that bright. Then I realized the specturum changes, and what my eyes might not see, or how my eyes might shift with that bright 1kw hps on (155k lumens, ranked up to super lumens on a digital ballast so I'm thinking it pushes 165klumens).

Well today I snuck in the room 1 minute before the lights came on to get some pics and see how bright the LEDs were when they were on alone, before the hps warmed up and was very bright, and HOLY SHIT my room is fucking light up with these lights... The side walls are RIDDLED with the RED/PINK light, and I'm getting light spots way outside the 4x4 canopy I expected from each ( I know that outside area won't produce much, however It will start the budding phase on newly added plants, plus I plan a daily rotation, similar to a volleyball court rotation, with my plants. (or if I can find a complete 4ft mover for $100, I'll get 2 and swing these bitches back and forth, with an alternating pattern).

Anyways here are the pics.

Left side before HPS is warmed up
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Left side after HPS is warmed up
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right side before HPS warm
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Right side after hps warm: Notice the color of the false wall has completely been drowned out by the HPS. If you put your hand at an angle as to block the hps light, my hand will light up pink with the led saturation - outside the canopy.
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I'm ordering a 3rd and a 4th as soon as I can. Scoot the 1kw closer to the leds now, and move one led on the other side of the 1k, and have 2 on the opposing side. Dominate 3lbs a month perpetual! (I HOPE) May add another 600w hps if needed (I got room, and 3 - 20amp circuits wired lol)
 

irishboy

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man those mixes always make my head spin cups and gallons and parts not to mention a list of things I have never heard of before or dont care to even come across gross haha!

I have to admit though not knowing about all that stuff really makes me feel stupid growing plants in my little smart pots with coco.

110 Degrees and they are still looking that great wow!! that is truly amazing you figure they would be stressed out and droopy or something always nice to see an update on this journal hopefully the temperatures start playing more to your favor and we see some fat frosty buds on those ladies soon!
ya its allot of stuff to take in when dealing with organics and medium mixes. good stuff to know though. i am able to get my temps down to 85F tonight still playing with different fan options to try to even lower the lights on (night time) temps. getting a bigger intake fan from a friend at 409CFM witch right now i have a 290CFM and going to run the 290CFM for a exhaust, my thought is to fill the room with lots of cool fresh air from out side more then the exhaust can suck out to cool things out, because right now i am just sucking out more air then thats coming in so all the cool air is sucked out too fast but with my friends fan i can/should change that in theory
At those temps aren't you affraid of Hermies?
Not that it would cut your heat by much ( or maybe it would) do you think just using one 500 light would give you coverage?
Still...........they look great........beats the hell outta me.......go get 'em!
yup its all scares me bro, just try to wish for the best.lol
the lights are really not the problem, they only raise my room like 3F or so, i figured out that negative pressure is the issue and its pulling the fresh cool air from out side out too fast, so by upping the intake should fix that issue but will now make more smell leeks, but rather have smell then no flowering plants.lol
welp here are some quick shots. not really going to start my own journal here, and don't want to thread jack - so I'll only post occasional pic updates :)

These things really get drowned out by the HPS. When I turned them on in my kitchen thursday they were too bright to look at, but when they are hooked up with the HPS firing 100%, I can look right at them.... and the canopy gets lighter and looks more violet than the deep red/pinkish. I was FRANKLY DISSAPOINTED at first. I was like WTF, these things are NOT that bright. Then I realized the specturum changes, and what my eyes might not see, or how my eyes might shift with that bright 1kw hps on (155k lumens, ranked up to super lumens on a digital ballast so I'm thinking it pushes 165klumens).

Well today I snuck in the room 1 minute before the lights came on to get some pics and see how bright the LEDs were when they were on alone, before the hps warmed up and was very bright, and HOLY SHIT my room is fucking light up with these lights... The side walls are RIDDLED with the RED/PINK light, and I'm getting light spots way outside the 4x4 canopy I expected from each ( I know that outside area won't produce much, however It will start the budding phase on newly added plants, plus I plan a daily rotation, similar to a volleyball court rotation, with my plants. (or if I can find a complete 4ft mover for $100, I'll get 2 and swing these bitches back and forth, with an alternating pattern).

Anyways here are the pics.

Left side before HPS is warmed up
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Left side after HPS is warmed up
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right side before HPS warm
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Right side after hps warm: Notice the color of the false wall has completely been drowned out by the HPS. If you put your hand at an angle as to block the hps light, my hand will light up pink with the led saturation - outside the canopy.
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I'm ordering a 3rd and a 4th as soon as I can. Scoot the 1kw closer to the leds now, and move one led on the other side of the 1k, and have 2 on the opposing side. Dominate 3lbs a month perpetual! (I HOPE) May add another 600w hps if needed (I got room, and 3 - 20amp circuits wired lol)
ya their very bright when looking right under then or right at the leds since their 90 degree and its not so bad when their hanging and look at them from the side, but the girls under the light will be getting very very intense light. i am not sure how the LED and HPS spectrums will mix ive seen cases where its messed with the plants and ive also seen it not, might be a strain thing or just those growers? but if it were me and i was running both i would run HPS in the middle and a led light on each side and if u did get 4 and wanted all lights then just box the HPS in with leds on all 4 sides.

girls look good bro
 
this guy seems to have no problem with multipule specturms. and I've read some people talking about adding a couple cfls for white and blue light? I'm sure the hps will take care of that ;)

[video=youtube;wKS_uu8ZJi4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKS_uu8ZJi4[/video]

GREAT idea on boxing that hps in. I may just do that. I still have another XXXtreme 8" hood by CAP that I wanted to use, but If I can sell that for $200, then I just need $500 more and I can get an other LED instead. I was going to have to pay $200-250 for a 400w ballast, hood, and bulb to replace the 600 I would pull out of veg. So basically just tack on another $250 on what I WOULD have spent and blam I got my 3rd LED. 2 weeks after that, blam I got my 4th. HAHAHA. By then I'll know how they're doing.
 

fartman

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thank you so much irish for taking the time to tell me this information i will refer to this for years to come ,ill prolly go lc soiless mix #1,and the gauno tea and kelp recipe but i have all my options in front of me thanks bro ,i hope i can find all this stuff in this cowpoke town,thanks again irish
 

nasar

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thanks for updates and more pics an positive thinking of new led lighting also wondering you did mention HGL lights to be better than spectra from HGL what is your rating between the PENATRATOR 126 from HGL and SPECTRA 180 from GLH?

Also is there any one else who has tested or heard of the new improved penatrator pro and generation X pro led panels?

http://www.hydrogrowled.com/
 

Cereall

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Yeah garbage

do a quick search on google or here...

I have seen so many of those penetrators up for sale after a month or two at 1/3 the original price. They provide excellent disappointments to all who use them
 

nasar

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Thanks Cereall i have done some research on them and found out that they meant to have the improved version and also provide a 90 day trial so you get full refund but the problem for me is that i am from uk.
 

irishboy

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They're still growing, looks good Irish!
thanks bro, i am going to fix a few things and get these girls flowering
this guy seems to have no problem with multipule specturms. and I've read some people talking about adding a couple cfls for white and blue light? I'm sure the hps will take care of that ;)

[video=youtube;wKS_uu8ZJi4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wKS_uu8ZJi4[/video]

GREAT idea on boxing that hps in. I may just do that. I still have another XXXtreme 8" hood by CAP that I wanted to use, but If I can sell that for $200, then I just need $500 more and I can get an other LED instead. I was going to have to pay $200-250 for a 400w ballast, hood, and bulb to replace the 600 I would pull out of veg. So basically just tack on another $250 on what I WOULD have spent and blam I got my 3rd LED. 2 weeks after that, blam I got my 4th. HAHAHA. By then I'll know how they're doing.
ya every strain acts different. make sure u like these leds before u spend G's on them. but ya 4 boxed around would be bad ass
thank you so much irish for taking the time to tell me this information i will refer to this for years to come ,ill prolly go lc soiless mix #1,and the gauno tea and kelp recipe but i have all my options in front of me thanks bro ,i hope i can find all this stuff in this cowpoke town,thanks again irish
no problem my friend, its a great mix and great teas
thanks for updates and more pics an positive thinking of new led lighting also wondering you did mention HGL lights to be better than spectra from HGL what is your rating between the PENATRATOR 126 from HGL and SPECTRA 180 from GLH?

Also is there any one else who has tested or heard of the new improved penatrator pro and generation X pro led panels?

http://www.hydrogrowled.com/
i never once said that! HGL is in no way better then spectra. i would never use those peace of shit scam lights again. read threw this thread ive posted links about those lights tons of time on just this on thread. read those before ordering those lights for sure. mind posting where i said that HGL was better then spectra?
Yeah garbage

do a quick search on google or here...

I have seen so many of those penetrators up for sale after a month or two at 1/3 the original price. They provide excellent disappointments to all who use them
you already know whats up with those.lol
Thanks Cereall i have done some research on them and found out that they meant to have the improved version and also provide a 90 day trial so you get full refund but the problem for me is that i am from uk.
man read threw this thread and read those links i posted a few times about that company, its a Must read!!!!
 

irishboy

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ya the 1st penetrator in a side x side with a prosource jumbo UFO, theirs a journal on here of that grow i did. i wouldn't but either and certainly not a penetrator, you really dont want to do business with that person just doing a Google search will show you why. he/she threaten to call the cops on a few customers
http://www.thcfarmer.com/forums/f137/ledgirl-threatens-narc-me-out-26228/

http://www.thcfarmer.com/forums/f137/fraud-cammie-mckenzie-fraud-26178/

http://www.thcfarmer.com/forums/f137/ledgirl-banned-25888/

ill also put it like this, most people i know on the web that bought one are now using the lights i am.
here read these links 1st!! be careful with that company!! ive also been told since the two names are close cammie from HGL was trying to sale here lights at the hydro stores as Mikes GLH spectra lights. its very easy to get the two company mixed up. this is why mike from GHL calls his lights the spectra's now, but ive also noticed company's trying to call their lights close to the spectra.lol. its a scam world out their.
 

nasar

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cheers for the response i have swiftly read about all the grow lights that have hype and yours seems to be the best lights available. I am more convinced on buying HGL lights now. And yesterday i rung this company called http://www.growlightuk.com and spoke to some guy named TIM i asked him questions in regards to these lights he has for sale and asked if i was to purchase his lights what was the guarantee that these lights will give me good results he replied and said the 300 watt panel is equivalent to a 400 watt HPS. As you can see i'm from Uk is it worth trying out these lights from this company?


And there's this company LED HYDROPONICS they seem to have alot of stockists for the lights. http://www.ledhydroponics.co.uk/Localstockists.aspx
 

irishboy

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cheers for the response i have swiftly read about all the grow lights that have hype and yours seems to be the best lights available. I am more convinced on buying HGL lights now. And yesterday i rung this company called http://www.growlightuk.com and spoke to some guy named TIM i asked him questions in regards to these lights he has for sale and asked if i was to purchase his lights what was the guarantee that these lights will give me good results he replied and said the 300 watt panel is equivalent to a 400 watt HPS. As you can see i'm from Uk is it worth trying out these lights from this company?


And there's this company LED HYDROPONICS they seem to have alot of stockists for the lights. http://www.ledhydroponics.co.uk/Localstockists.aspx
ya i dont know bro lights are not cheap, if their no proven i wouldn't waste ur money. not sure why u are more convinced on buying HGL more now after those links? u must mean GLH the spectras?
 

fartman

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so irish i got 3 90 watt bloomboss ufos and they do veg(bagweed seeds which im sure came from mexico which were prolly big plants in a feild but they only grow 17 inches in 1 month veg and 2 weeks bloom in my unit which is hydro) so my question is ,i have 2 questions,do u think these r good 4 veg ,and right now my bud chamber is 3ft 5x 18 inches with the 3 bloom bosses and i cant see shit for buds after 2 weeks am i getting too anxous ,eventually imma build a grow room with 5x5 chambers so if my bloom bosses r god 4 veg and i need a ghood bud light but eventually im gonna have a 5x5 but now its a 3.5x18x 4 ft tallso what light should i use that i can just double when i can get the 5x5 going.im thinkind a spectra 290 for this set up and another when i get the 5x5 going ,should i wait longer to see if the bloom bosses bud plants or what note when i close the doors it gets up to 100degrees i there so i try to keep it open during light hours so i cant figure out why it isnt forming buds yet plus i trimmed some fan leafs to tyry to get light to nodes and i noticed the brannches were not flexible but stiff and some broke off clean ,wut is that a symptom of,and will 2x 290s spectras rock a 5x5 and will 1 rock a 3.5x18x 4 ft or what lights do u reccommend , ps im going to that soiless recipe next round
 

irishboy

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so irish i got 3 90 watt bloomboss ufos and they do veg(bagweed seeds which im sure came from mexico which were prolly big plants in a feild but they only grow 17 inches in 1 month veg and 2 weeks bloom in my unit which is hydro) so my question is ,i have 2 questions,do u think these r good 4 veg ,and right now my bud chamber is 3ft 5x 18 inches with the 3 bloom bosses and i cant see shit for buds after 2 weeks am i getting too anxous ,eventually imma build a grow room with 5x5 chambers so if my bloom bosses r god 4 veg and i need a ghood bud light but eventually im gonna have a 5x5 but now its a 3.5x18x 4 ft tallso what light should i use that i can just double when i can get the 5x5 going.im thinkind a spectra 290 for this set up and another when i get the 5x5 going ,should i wait longer to see if the bloom bosses bud plants or what note when i close the doors it gets up to 100degrees i there so i try to keep it open during light hours so i cant figure out why it isnt forming buds yet plus i trimmed some fan leafs to tyry to get light to nodes and i noticed the brannches were not flexible but stiff and some broke off clean ,wut is that a symptom of,and will 2x 290s spectras rock a 5x5 and will 1 rock a 3.5x18x 4 ft or what lights do u reccommend
not sure about the lights u have never heard of them, led company's pop up all the time and i dont pay attion to them anymore, i just stick to what i know works.
not sure whats up with ur girls not flowering, could be the heat like me or could be the spectrum of the lights? if ur lights are proven and u know they flower good then u can count that out and narrow it down.

ya i think the 290w will rock things out and i feel its gonna be a great light and i will be getting some latter on also.
 

fartman

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u vouch for the 290 spectra to get the buds right? for a 2.5 x2.5?
and any led can veg? heres the bs bloom boss says * Power Consumption: 90w
* Output - Blue 430nm~470nm & Red 610nm~680nm
* Voltage: 110v
* Operating Temperature: -4F~122F
* Weight: 6 lbs
* Dimensions: 10.5 inches round x 2.5 inches tall
 
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