Run Off pH Is Ridiculous...

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Mort Fink

New Member
by the way the first link you posted is titled "31,000 scientists reject 'global warming' agenda" They reject the agenda not the theory. the agenda is the way we're overhyping it and handling it. It doesn't say they reject the greenhouse effect or theory.
 

Mort Fink

New Member
I don't think your reading the links because the 31,000 are just rejecting the limits set and or agenda not actual global warming.
 

NoGutsGrower

Well-Known Member
So far I am the only one with any info stating the majority is on my side! The governments make money off this shit!
Just like with weed! the government thinks it is a schedule 1 narcotic but tons of scientists are fighting against it! Ohhh wait almost every other country has outlawed marijuana! IT MUST BE BAD FOR YOU! THE GOVERNMENT IS ALWAYS RIGHT!!!
 

Mort Fink

New Member
Dude read your links those 31,000 accept global warming in some form just not the levels set and the agenda of the Al Gore movie and his carbon dioxide theories.
 

NoGutsGrower

Well-Known Member
Are you reading the one from the us senate committee on environment and public works?

UN Blowback: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims

That is the title of the UNITED STATES SENATE article!
There is a link on the page to the full 255 page report!

here is the first paragraph


Over 700 dissenting scientists (updates previous 650 report) from around the globe
challenged man-made global warming claims made by the United Nations
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and former Vice President Al Gore.
This new 2009 255-page U.S. Senate Minority Report -- updated from 2007’s
groundbreaking report of over 400 scientists who voiced skepticism about the so-called
global warming “consensus” -- features the skeptical voices of over 700 prominent
international scientists, including many current and former UN IPCC scientists, who have
now turned against the UN IPCC. This updated report includes an additional 300 (and
growing) scientists and climate researchers since the initial release in December 2007.
The over 700 dissenting scientists are more than 13 times the number of UN scientists (52)
who authored the media-hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.
 

NoGutsGrower

Well-Known Member
by the way the first link you posted is titled "31,000 scientists reject 'global warming' agenda" They reject the agenda not the theory. the agenda is the way we're overhyping it and handling it. It doesn't say they reject the greenhouse effect or theory.
Exactly OVER HYPING IT!
 

Mort Fink

New Member
Who cares anymore we are kicking a dead horse. Some scientists believe it some don't. My logic tell me the pollution from our cars and factories is fucking shit up in our skies. Good debate I learned something. I always say it's good to be wrong sometimes cuz' you learn something.
 

NoGutsGrower

Well-Known Member
Never said pollution in the air wasn't bad! I just don't think we need to worry about global warming!

this song is how I feel!
[video=youtube;q-YJ3z4oPrI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-YJ3z4oPrI[/video]
 

watchhowIdoit

New Member
Are you reading the one from the us senate committee on environment and public works?

UN Blowback: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims

That is the title of the UNITED STATES SENATE article!
There is a link on the page to the full 255 page report!

here is the first paragraph


Over 700 dissenting scientists (updates previous 650 report) from around the globe
challenged man-made global warming claims made by the United Nations
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) and former Vice President Al Gore.
This new 2009 255-page U.S. Senate Minority Report -- updated from 2007’s
groundbreaking report of over 400 scientists who voiced skepticism about the so-called
global warming “consensus” -- features the skeptical voices of over 700 prominent
international scientists, including many current and former UN IPCC scientists, who have
now turned against the UN IPCC. This updated report includes an additional 300 (and
growing) scientists and climate researchers since the initial release in December 2007.
The over 700 dissenting scientists are more than 13 times the number of UN scientists (52)
who authored the media-hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.
All I see are the words 'skeptics and skeptical' not discount or reject........
 

NoGutsGrower

Well-Known Member
All I see are the words 'skeptics and skeptical' not discount or reject........
haha you are funny!!!!

skep·ti·cal   
[skep-ti-kuhl] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
inclined to skepticism; having doubt: a skeptical young woman.
2.
showing doubt: a skeptical smile.
3.
denying or questioning the tenets of a religion: a skeptical approach to the nature of miracles.

Definition of SKEPTICISM

1
: an attitude of doubt or a disposition to incredulity either in general or toward a particular object
2
a : the doctrine that true knowledge or knowledge in a particular area is uncertain
b : the method of suspended judgment, systematic doubt, or criticism characteristic of skeptics
3
: doubt concerning basic religious principles (as immortality, providence, and revelation).

doubt   
[dout] Show IPA
–verb (used with object)
1.
to be uncertain about; consider questionable or unlikely; hesitate to believe.
2.
to distrust.
3.
Archaic . to fear; be apprehensive about.

I'm sorry they didn't use the words you would! I'm no genius, but the school I went to taught me the meaning of those three words!
 

NoGutsGrower

Well-Known Member
Remember that is a report released by THE UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT! You should be amazed they put out any report against it!

The government throws out it's own reports when they don't like what they say!!!! Read about the Shafer report ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Commission_on_Marihuana_and_Drug_Abuse ) Nixon had a study done on marijuana, when the study came back stating that marijuana isn't all that bad they threw it out! Well I guess the government knows best!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single_Convention_on_Narcotic_Drugs
 

fletchman

Active Member
12 pages of bullshit, and not 1 post of what is the perfect range of PH for marijuana in different kinds of medium?

Any guesses from you experts on what Ph to run in Pro-mix or Sunshine mix?
 

watchhowIdoit

New Member
haha you are funny!!!!

skep·ti·cal   
[skep-ti-kuhl] Show IPA
–adjective
1.
inclined to skepticism; having doubt: a skeptical young woman.
2.
showing doubt: a skeptical smile.
3.
denying or questioning the tenets of a religion: a skeptical approach to the nature of miracles.

Definition of SKEPTICISM

1
: an attitude of doubt or a disposition to incredulity either in general or toward a particular object
2
a : the doctrine that true knowledge or knowledge in a particular area is uncertain
b : the method of suspended judgment, systematic doubt, or criticism characteristic of skeptics
3
: doubt concerning basic religious principles (as immortality, providence, and revelation).

doubt   
[dout] Show IPA
–verb (used with object)
1.
to be uncertain about; consider questionable or unlikely; hesitate to believe.
2.
to distrust.
3.
Archaic . to fear; be apprehensive about.

I'm sorry they didn't use the words you would! I'm no genius, but the school I went to taught me the meaning of those three words!
Like I said and has been stated by others. They are just challenging some of the facts in the report. Not saying global warming does not exist. I will be glad when summer is over and you are back on the little bus heading for school........dont forget your helmet......
 

watchhowIdoit

New Member
soil ph should be in the 6.5 range
I am glad you used the word 'range'. You just need to keep things in range with no mad shifts or changes. And most strains of MJ with do just fine in a soil/soiless medium anywhere from 6-8. And dont forget its very important to know whats in your tap water before starting to grow. Using R/O opens the door to more issues because all the natural buffers have been stripped from it.......
 

fletchman

Active Member
I am glad you used the word 'range'. You just need to keep things in range with no mad shifts or changes. And most strains of MJ with do just fine in a soil/soiless medium anywhere from 6-8. And dont forget its very important to know whats in your tap water before starting to grow. Using R/O opens the door to more issues because all the natural buffers have been stripped from it.......

I think R/O water is the only way to go, and a PH of 5.8 to 6.3 is perfect for Sunhine/promix soilless mediums.

Good nutrients will take your PH to these levels with R/O water, and a good Silicon product like Dyna-gro Pro-tekt is a great PH-up.

If you go anywhere near the mid 7's or 8 with your PH every watering, your plants will get fucked up and locked out, and not yield for shit;)

The only way to have a PH that high using nutes is to adjust it there on purpose, unless your water is completely fucked, then you are fighting a losing battle from the start.

Best advise is to get an R/O system and use quality nutes, then PH becomes a non-issue.
 
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