My SCROG "Grow Cart" on wheels

FourTwenty47

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good luck with the clones....I'm glad I cloned my female cause I ended up with a lot of males...Now I have 4 ladies b/c of the clones...
 

pinksensa

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good luck with the clones....I'm glad I cloned my female cause I ended up with a lot of males...Now I have 4 ladies b/c of the clones...
Ahh hun, I saw that about all those boys in journal...I feel really positive....I have my clone box ready to go Im just waitin for my roomie to get home so I have an extra set of hands if I need them....Ill let you know....maybe keep that one new girl that you are putting under there in veg for a week or so and pull some more clones....my prayer is to not go from seeds again!!
 

s|ean

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what now? I've read everything from the soap incident and hazy's filrtacious comments to your fimming. :D Your plant is growing so cleanly and full. Looks like your a professional :p thanks for all the help too.
 

pinksensa

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So tonite I commenced with Elizabeth's first cloning...I blended a DYI clone chamber from dertmagert and a couple of different styles I found in the GROWFAQ..my container is a bit smaller than dertmagert's but I knew I could improvise with a flora lite...and I got the cling wrap on top from a dyi in the grow faq that uses an aquarium.

You will notice that though I lined my *PINK* clone chamber with white contact paper light still came through so I improvised the perlite that dertmagert used for moisture and to hold up his clones by using more in my container to actually bury the peat/clone package thereby blocking any additional light penetrating the chamber.

So pretty much like the others water, rootech rooting gel, alchohol to clean razor blade and scissors, peat pellets in warm water, and misting bottle.

I mostly cut clones that were either getting very little light and kinda headed towards shitty or that were less that five inches from the screen as I need those longer what are now full branches with multiple leaf sites to come up through my screen to be budsites. right???
So:
  • Placed pellets in warm water
  • Planned my cuts based on above listed criteria
  • Made cut
  • Place clone directly into water
  • Squeezed out pellet and used a chopstick to poke a little hole in swollen peat pellet
  • Dipped clone in rooting gel
  • Trimmed lower leaves
  • Dipped in rooting gel 1 more time
  • Gently ease clone into opened peat pellet
  • Squeezed pellet around clone and secured it to hold clone
  • Misted with a blend of water and liquid karma
Repeated for all clones exactly then placed in clone chamber...misted the hell out of it....placed cling wrap on top with about a 1 inch opening for fresh air...taped back part of cling wrap so I can open up front part.

Popped it up on the top shelf above their Momma...with the door almost completly closed the temps run about 78-80 with humidity in the 60-70 all of which I hope to help my clones up top...Elizabeth's temps always run in the mid 70's and humidity in the mid 50-60's with the door open a bit more. I sealed up the closet pretty tight last night for two different hours to test my temps and I ran between 80-85 but with the crack Im just where I want to be.

The light above the babies is a flora despite what it looks like.

Oh and I also pulled back Elizabeth's top hairs and fimmed her the best I could, I maybe could have went a millimeter shorter but oh well...then I misted the hell out of her and tucked here and there to get my new branches the most light exposure...

I think thats all....oh and I found my ph test kits I have one for my pool and one for fish tanks...so I used both...and with all my nutes in my water I am riding in the perfect zone 6.6 ish...well now I looked at my notes and that maybe what its perfect for soil soooo SOMEBODY let me know if thats wrong...but she looks great and is thriving as always...
 

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pinksensa

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what now? I've read everything from the soap incident and hazy's filrtacious comments to your fimming. :D Your plant is growing so cleanly and full. Looks like your a professional :p thanks for all the help too.
ha ha I do have a saucy grow journal huh? Im excited to see what happens with my first round of clones...they definetly arent the best of my plant but I just wanna see what happens w/them..Im heading to bed so I will answer your pm in the morning..
 

pinksensa

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Okay so I took 7 clones....those were also like 7 of my shittiest of shitty clones prospect.....I took them because they would have died eventually from no light and I needed to practice cloning and at least have one that I could use to force flower to verify Elizabeth...

SOOOOOO......I lost 3 of the clones already........once I fully had my eyes open and my contacts in I sat down to inspect the box and removed the 3 dead ones.....My peat sack if you will were pretty dry on all of the clones......after removing the dead ones, I sprayed the sack the walls the perlite everything...it was clearly a moisture issue. I also made a little ditch in the perlite for the 4 clones to sit where they arent really buried any more so I can spray that sack, lol I love say sack ha ha.
Plus I dont know what I was thinking but Im like in one of the driest places on earth, so instead of doing the 1 inch of fresh air with the cling wrap I coverd the whole thing in cling wrap Im nuts if I dont do that they will be dry in an hour...so we will see.....with the 4 champions I have left...
 

jackinthebox

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hey pink, try and removing alot of the excess foliage on those plants. Otherwise its going to take the plant a while to gain enough root structure to support it. There is way to much on your clones, they will surely die before the plant can support them.

Also, when you posted on my thread, I wasnt trying to be a jerk to ya, I was just trying to let you know. It came out in a negative tone I guess. sorry about it though.

But deffently remove most of that foliage from your clones.

Goodluck mate <3
 

jackinthebox

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Some of them have side branches coming off of them, you should remove those deffently. And then trim some of the top leafs.

Next time try and perhaps take smaller clones, some of the clones you took, you could have actually taken clones from those. Also you dont want them to be so tall, usually under 6 inches.

Hope they make it <3
 

FourTwenty47

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Hey Pink, when I did my clones all I did was cut them properly, dipped in water then rooting hormone powder then in a saturated peat pellet surrounded in soil in the bucket its gonna grow in.I kept the soil moist the whole time (not too wet) and kept them outta direct light for a few days (not dark, just not under my 400 M/H) I also trimmed most of the fan leaves off except the top 2 nodes. after about 3 or 4 days I put them under the light and they showed signs of Improvement within a week.3 outta 4 clones made it. The one that died was my fault messin' around with some nutes...don't give 'em nutes right off the bat...It was a test for me.. But this method was very easy and it worked great.
 

dertmagert

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great job girl! .. i like it.. i love it..

sorry to hear about your misfortune with the 3 that died..

i see youve already came to a conclusion as to why they died.. moisture..
if you open the container too much then u lose the humidity in the air and it doesnt give u the desired effect u want.. u should only open it once a day just to waft out the stale air ( they dont need fresh air, they need humidity, but a daily exhaust of the air is beneficial )
the walls on your chamber should constantly have droplets of water on them without u having to place them there.. this is a sure sign that u have created the desired humidity chamber.. ( sometimes when i open my box i have a drop or two of water fall from the top from all the humidity )

i dont know if lining the box with paper is whats causing the problem.. the paper is definately absorbing some of the water .

as far as the cuttings ... they look fine to me.. i dont see side branching (maybe i overlooked ) but i do see leaves.. they should be okay like that but if your having problems then i would do as jackinthebox says and trim the leaves.. just cut them in half ( like if your were cutting each of your fingers off at the knuckle )

all looks good but may i ask, why did u not just mount a light to the lid of the box?
 

pinksensa

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great job girl! .. i like it.. i love it..

sorry to hear about your misfortune with the 3 that died..

i see youve already came to a conclusion as to why they died.. moisture..
if you open the container too much then u lose the humidity in the air and it doesnt give u the desired effect u want.. u should only open it once a day just to waft out the stale air ( they dont need fresh air, they need humidity, but fresh a daily exhaust of the air is necessary )
the walls on your chamber should constantly have droplets of water on them without u having to place them there.. this is a sure sign that u have created the desired humidity chamber.. ( sometimes when i open my box i have a drop or two of water fall from the top from all the humidity )

i dont know if lining the box with paper is whats causing the problem.. the paper is definately absorbing some of the water .

as far as the cuttings ... they look fine to me.. i dont see side branching (maybe i overlooked ) but i do see leaves.. they should be okay like that but if your having problems then i would do as jackinthebox says and trim the leaves.. just cut them in half ( like if your were cutting each of your fingers off at the knuckle )

all looks good but may i ask, why did u not just mount a light to the lid of the box?
I did figure out the moisture thing and later when I went to check and I removed the cling wrap warm moist air came out....the contact paper isnt absorbing the water its doing just what you said it should have droplets on it the whole time....the whole thing is working great now...I didnt mount the light (if you could hear me theres a whine in my voice...) cuz I didnt want a huge box and the light I found was too big for my box the smaller ones looked to small and I already had that lamp and another floro bulb that I coulda used so I improvised.....
 

dertmagert

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well, to tell u the truth, i would have prefered to use a smaller box.. trust me.. but its the only size one i could find that would house a 2ft floro.. im thinking that you could get by in that size box just by mounting a CFL in the lid... u should have your roomate do it for u.. unless u want me to stop by.. i got all the tools and everything. =)
 

pinksensa

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well, to tell u the truth, i would have prefered to use a smaller box.. trust me.. but its the only size one i could find that would house a 2ft floro.. im thinking that you could get by in that size box just by mounting a CFL in the lid... u should have your roomate do it for u.. unless u want me to stop by.. i got all the tools and everything. =)
I think I that light is workin good now...trust me...if you want Ill take a pic and show you how moist it is...
 
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