For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users
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hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Yah dont worrie about the water ive tested both lifted and not and there was no difference
babysas
Active Member
hey all...
I'm on page 56 of this thread....(so great!)
anyways....i got a ebb and grow off CL for $150...it had never been used....
and i have a 600w hps in a air cooled hood....
how many plants should i run under 1 600w?
i plan on getting another 600w down the road a bit....
but want to start making indoor meds........
anyone want to help?
I'm on page 56 of this thread....(so great!)
anyways....i got a ebb and grow off CL for $150...it had never been used....
and i have a 600w hps in a air cooled hood....
how many plants should i run under 1 600w?
i plan on getting another 600w down the road a bit....
but want to start making indoor meds........
anyone want to help?
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
1 600 lamp isnt enough for the 12 site but you. Can down grade to 6 and that would work ok
lostsmoker
Member
How do you guys go about topping off your reservoir? What is the water source that you use?
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
I use plain water and every 4 or 5 days i add water to top off then 1/4 nutes or just what it takes to get to the ppm im wanting.
lostsmoker
Member
"Plain" as in from the tap? Just wondering since I use a stealth ro and would fill a 2nd res to have water on hand to top off. It takes some time even to get 30 gallons from it. I read a lot of this thread and it is fun to read. The one thing that stood out was water use of the plants and how often do you need to top off during the different weeks of growth. Window shopping for now and this thread really might point me to the ways of Ebb n Grow.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
I dont use RO i feal its overated and not a must, but in some cases it very important if you have bad water!
Whats good everyone! I have been reading and following for a couple of weeks already. And I have the 12 pot system. Its amazing almost full proof. Just a lil worried about that elbow in the res. The majority of my babies are 8". I got a eight foot tall room, but i only want them to get to about 5 feet. so like six feet with the bucket. Whats a good height to switch to flowering?
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
A 3 footer will flower out to about 6 ft.thats a monster of a plant a 12 of them would drink so much
Water it would be alot of work but very cool and if you do it post some pics
Water it would be alot of work but very cool and if you do it post some pics
Ferredoxin
Active Member
Here is my second crack at the Ebb & Grow after a disappointing last run...all my fault. I overdosed the plants big time and the yield really suffered. I think the strain, Sour Grapes, was a low yielder to begin with, but it was certainly covered in resin and a good smoke.
Anyway, I have made some adjustments. I added 6 more pots, for a total of 24 under 4 x 1000w. I also retooled the feeding schedule and switched strains. I thought I had 18 Cherry Kush and 6 Sour Diesel, but due to a mis-labeled mother I got from a friend, I now have about half and half. No worries...I could use the extra Sours to help make up for the lousy yield last time....lol.
Here they are at 24 days of 12/12 after 3 weeks of veg. Next time around I am only going to veg them for ~2 weeks, and top them just a few days prior to the flip. I am pleased with the results so far!
Cherry Kush. Smells like Ludens cough drops!
Sour D stretching out;
Room shot:
Cherry
Sour
Anyway, I have made some adjustments. I added 6 more pots, for a total of 24 under 4 x 1000w. I also retooled the feeding schedule and switched strains. I thought I had 18 Cherry Kush and 6 Sour Diesel, but due to a mis-labeled mother I got from a friend, I now have about half and half. No worries...I could use the extra Sours to help make up for the lousy yield last time....lol.
Here they are at 24 days of 12/12 after 3 weeks of veg. Next time around I am only going to veg them for ~2 weeks, and top them just a few days prior to the flip. I am pleased with the results so far!
Cherry Kush. Smells like Ludens cough drops!
Sour D stretching out;
Room shot:
Cherry
Sour
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hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
Looking fing great dude yah like you i went way to long in veg and they got to big 2weeks seems good +rep
Ferredoxin
Active Member
Thanks hr.
It's funny how this thread, almost singlehandedly, influenced me to purchase this setup. The ease of use is fantastic. Being able to flood an entire room of pots with a 55 gallon res is awesome. Thanks for all the contributions thus far.
It's funny how this thread, almost singlehandedly, influenced me to purchase this setup. The ease of use is fantastic. Being able to flood an entire room of pots with a 55 gallon res is awesome. Thanks for all the contributions thus far.
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
No problem, one thing you run into any slime in your res? Im using h202 and im geting a slime but it not like
The normal slime this dont stink and doesnt effect plants, im thinking it might be caused by the ph down im
Using eitherway its weird.
The normal slime this dont stink and doesnt effect plants, im thinking it might be caused by the ph down im
Using eitherway its weird.
Ferredoxin
Active Member
Yeah I get a sediment/slime in the res, on my big air plate, and on my pump. It doesn't coat the whole res, but seems to settle at the bottom, so Im guessing it is a nutrient interaction causing some sedimentation.
I am going to start using the hygrozyme at the 8ml/gal rate every other week, instead of 5ml/gal every week. The higher rate of hygrozyme seems to take care of the residue, but at $110+ per gallon, Im looking for ways to stretch it out.
I ran into a weird issue this week with perlite/cottage cheese looking floaters in the res that were sticking to the sides and floating around. I noticed a ppm drop when the residue appeared, and as the stuff re-entered the solution the ppms rose again. Chalking it up to a potassium/calcium interaction.
I am going to start using the hygrozyme at the 8ml/gal rate every other week, instead of 5ml/gal every week. The higher rate of hygrozyme seems to take care of the residue, but at $110+ per gallon, Im looking for ways to stretch it out.
I ran into a weird issue this week with perlite/cottage cheese looking floaters in the res that were sticking to the sides and floating around. I noticed a ppm drop when the residue appeared, and as the stuff re-entered the solution the ppms rose again. Chalking it up to a potassium/calcium interaction.
formfactor
Member
Wow, awesome thread! I just finished reading all 164 pages. Lots of great information here, I feel much more comfortable with this ebb and gro. I just finnished my first e&g grow. I didn't flush my res a single time until then last 2 weeks, and the plants still turned out pretty good. I've decided I'm going to do 35 buckets this next run. But this time I plan on changing the res biweekly in veg, and early flower, then weekly during the heavy drink/feed cycle.
I've seen a lot of talk regarding the sludge that accumulates atthe bottom. Has anyone tried draining their res, then just dumping water down the last few buckets in the line? My theory is hopefully this will help push the sludge into the controller, and out into the res. I think I'm going to try that, along with a wet vac to suck that sludge out of the controller every week.
Also, this was my first hydro grow, and unfortunately I got a nasty spider mite infection during the final 2 weeks (during flush). I'm guessing since I flushed with just water, and no nutes, the plants were ultra week and vulnerable to the little bastards. Do youguys have any suggestions on preventing that in the future?
My last question is more about nutrients. I am using the 3 basic general hydroponics nutes, and I really like the simplicity of having just 3 ingredients. However, I also feel like if I'm going to do this, I want to get the very most I can. I've heard some folks here have switched to advanced nutrients. Do you guys have any experience there? Like have you switched to a new brand of nutes and see a major difference?
I've seen a lot of talk regarding the sludge that accumulates atthe bottom. Has anyone tried draining their res, then just dumping water down the last few buckets in the line? My theory is hopefully this will help push the sludge into the controller, and out into the res. I think I'm going to try that, along with a wet vac to suck that sludge out of the controller every week.
Also, this was my first hydro grow, and unfortunately I got a nasty spider mite infection during the final 2 weeks (during flush). I'm guessing since I flushed with just water, and no nutes, the plants were ultra week and vulnerable to the little bastards. Do youguys have any suggestions on preventing that in the future?
My last question is more about nutrients. I am using the 3 basic general hydroponics nutes, and I really like the simplicity of having just 3 ingredients. However, I also feel like if I'm going to do this, I want to get the very most I can. I've heard some folks here have switched to advanced nutrients. Do you guys have any experience there? Like have you switched to a new brand of nutes and see a major difference?
formfactor
Member
Also I just wanted to add a quick tip I have found... It seems the best way to run these buckets is back to back... So you can actually run 2 rows of buckets on the same line. Additionally I like to run the lines in U (or S if your rows are short enough) shapes... So rather than use an end bucket (LConnector), I just connect the ends of my rows (T connector) with a length of tube I think this seems to aid in shortening the time it takes to fill and drain the buckets,
hellraizer30
Rebel From The North
As for nutes im using a full AN line up and a full line of bc grow and im seeing no difference in the to,
Soo im switching away due to the cost of AN nutes. Bc is a 2part that bc grow and bc boost and for
Flower its bc bloom and bc boost, theres a sup called magical if you have a cal issue. So all the way
Through it 2part system. As for the pluming i went to 3/4 with pvc. Eitherway i love this system!
Soo im switching away due to the cost of AN nutes. Bc is a 2part that bc grow and bc boost and for
Flower its bc bloom and bc boost, theres a sup called magical if you have a cal issue. So all the way
Through it 2part system. As for the pluming i went to 3/4 with pvc. Eitherway i love this system!