I Have a Few Plants that Need Some Expert Advice!

jerry zinfadel

jerry zinfadel

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Hello everyone, i have a few plants that need some serious help i'll give you the conditions first:

All of these plants are in a grow tent under 600w lights, plants are in a 4 gallon containers each, they're all in their 5th week of flower and have a 12/12 light cycle. Medium is a 50/50 blend of fox farms ocean forest and sunshine 4 pro mix. Feeding is advanced nutrients with iguana juice bloom, bud candy, sensizyme, turantula, pirahna, rhino skin, over drive (for some), mg/cal, big bud (done now), nirvana and voodoo juice and bud factor. I use a small boy water filter ph'd to around 6.3 - 6.8 at any given time and feed with about 20 gallons (just a lil run off from each). Please look at these and tell me whats wrong? First 3 pics are jack herer it looks like mag/cal deficiency but i can't tell for sure and i give them mag/cal all the time. So please let me know your thoughts (on the pic and anything relative to my conditions and feeding). Also i have a white domina with yellowing, is it nute burned? if so what should i do? and i also have foliage throughout my garden that's burned at the bottoms of the plant that look crispy like the 4th photo but the end of the nodes of the leaves are strong.. should i prune those off? pinch em off? keep them there??also have yellowing through out the garden mostly around the middle of the plants, not many but still there is that natural around the 5th week of flower? Thanks guys, btw these plants are all around 3.5 to 4 feet tall from the ground. Any idea what they might get me as far as yield???
 

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Robert Paulson

Robert Paulson

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the jacks look cal mag burned and the domina is definitely deficient. your ph is a bit low. it should be 6.5-7.0, nuetral or just under for soil. and for sure cut that dead shit out, even if the tips are healthy.
 
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aljinn

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Jerry , You have a lot going on with these plants , you need to check your ph , plants are burnt from over fertilization like robert said cut the dead stuff , flush flush flush! cut back on the nuts, you might want to consider harvesting sooner
 
jerry zinfadel

jerry zinfadel

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honestly hymem, i didn't get anything out of it except a few guys bashing eachother, and b vitamins might possibly be bullshit lmao. But just be honest, with the stuff that i have now what do you think i should be doing? I do value opinions from people that have experience. I think i just used way too much iguana bloom, and is it possible to burn with cal/mag???
 
hymem

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honestly hymem, i didn't get anything out of it except a few guys bashing eachother, and b vitamins might possibly be bullshit lmao. But just be honest, with the stuff that i have now what do you think i should be doing? I do value opinions from people that have experience. I think i just used way too much iguana bloom, and is it possible to burn with cal/mag???
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Yeah sorry about that thread, it got out of control.

But just be honest, with the stuff that i have now what do you think i should be doing?
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Its hard to say because there are so many things you are putting in there, things could be overlapping. What is the PPM of the solution you are using? How much of each are you adding in ml/gal? There are definitely deficiencies being caused by lockouts, You may have too much K which causes lockout of N, Ca and Mg.

I think you should flush your medium with a ph adjusted solution that is lightly nuted with base nutrients only. Then start over with a much more simple regiment. I would suggest running only advanced Sensi Bloom at around 1000-1100ppm for the rest of flower and then cut that back to around 500ppm the last week or so.
 
jawbrodt

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^Exactly, there's too much going on, to be able to pinpoint the EXACT cause, so flushing would be the best option, starting over with a fresh medium. Might aslo be a good idea to throw like 2 tbsp of powdered lime in the last gallon of water(with or w/o fert) before you pour it in. That'll hold your PH in check, til the end, easily.
 
Tricks

Tricks

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Hymem and Jawbrodt both gave good advice. Keep an eye on your soil PH in the future.
 
jerry zinfadel

jerry zinfadel

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you guys are have VERY good advice, hymem it's okay lol i just couldn't follow the guys after like the 8th page lol, Sounds good please teach me how to give rep points to hymem because every dam solution i'm using (most of the ones i listed) has potassium/potash in it, that's really what it sounds like, also i ran a test of the soil ph but the tester i have (those cheap 3 way ones) i believe has gone to ass. i gotta get a new ph soil meter... also any suggestions for a good ph and ppm meter. can't afford the 200 dollar all in ones, seperate is fine.
 
hymem

hymem

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Sounds good please teach me how to give rep points to hymem because every dam solution i'm using (most of the ones i listed) has potassium/potash in it, that's really what it sounds like, also i ran a test of the soil ph but the tester i have (those cheap 3 way ones) i believe has gone to ass. i gotta get a new ph soil meter... also any suggestions for a good ph and ppm meter. can't afford the 200 dollar all in ones, seperate is fine.
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Im not sure about the rep points, im kinda computer illiterate but its the though that counts anyway. Thanks. BTW, here is a good soil PH meter, its a little pricey but worth the investment for soil growers. Its not digital but its supposed to be very accurate.
 
jerry zinfadel

jerry zinfadel

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Update: just checked the soil... 6.8 in almost every pot, damn...., also range of npk in the soil is stable, i think it's over-fert of mag/cal. what do you guys think?
 
malignant

malignant

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flush with floraclean and then leave them alone!!! water for a week, and completley re-evaluate your nutes.. what are you using? and how much..
 
malignant

malignant

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jerry zinfadel said:
you guys are have VERY good advice, hymem it's okay lol i just couldn't follow the guys after like the 8th page lol, Sounds good please teach me how to give rep points to hymem because every dam solution i'm using (most of the ones i listed) has potassium/potash in it, that's really what it sounds like, also i ran a test of the soil ph but the tester i have (those cheap 3 way ones) i believe has gone to ass. i gotta get a new ph soil meter... also any suggestions for a good ph and ppm meter. can't afford the 200 dollar all in ones, seperate is fine.
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dude you should be getting your shit together before worring about a ppm meter and all of that.. ph strips, or drops in water are adequate. you have bigger things to worry about like frying your plants use dolomite lime in soil, it helps buffer ph.. and dont use cheap or obscure nutes... you get what you pay for. house and garden are the best around, and youll never see a burned plant from following thier regimen
 
NEVER OUTGUNNED

NEVER OUTGUNNED

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I use dm gold a/b, and bloombastic. That's it. Maybe a little bushmaster the first week. And i keep my ppms at 800-900, i am in hydro though. Point is, i learned a long time ago to keep it simple, i recomend sitting down for a good 30min or see and read up on plant nutrients, its easy and it helped me to cut through all the nutrient companies bullshit. And i realized the dumbfuck at the hydro shop sold me essentially the same expensive product (shooting powder, overdrive). Then u could apply it to the ph chart, when u need to give more of a certain nutrient you will now what ph it is best absorbed at. One thing i might point out is all current ph charts offered on the internet are "opinions". I say this because if you look at all of them they say different things one says "p" is absorbed best between 5.0-5.5, yet in my hydro catalog it says ph is best absorbed at 5.8-6.0. Seems u never get a straight answer.

SERIOUSLY THOUGH, FLUSH THE SHIT OUT OF YOUR PLANTS FOR A COUPLE OF DAYS, AND RUN STRAIGHT WATER FOR A COUPLE MORE, THEN I WOULD JUST USE THE AN A&B, AND BIG BUD, SWITCH TO OVERDRIVE IN WEEK 6 OR 7 DEPENDING ON FLOWERING TIME. AN IS KNOWN FOR HAVING ALL KINDS OF BULLSHIT PRODUCTS, SOME ARE GREAT DONT GET ME WRONG, BUT THEY HAVE SO MUCH DIFFERENT CRAP, THEY GIVE VAGUE EXPLANATIONS ON THE LABELS, AND THEY DISTRACT YOU WITH THOSE GAY ASS LABELS. I DON'T DO BUSINESS WITH PEOPLE THAT START BULLSHITTING ME UP FRONT, SO WHY DO THE SAME WITH A NUTRIENT COMPANY?
 
jerry zinfadel

jerry zinfadel

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malignant said:
dude you should be getting your shit together before worring about a ppm meter and all of that.. ph strips, or drops in water are adequate. you have bigger things to worry about like frying your plants use dolomite lime in soil, it helps buffer ph.. and dont use cheap or obscure nutes... you get what you pay for. house and garden are the best around, and youll never see a burned plant from following thier regimen
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Absolutely right, i just did a flush on them and all of them had a ph of a little less than 6, flushed them with nuetral ph filtered water to get them back up a little bit. grabbin the dolomite lime today and watering them and the rest with it, any hints on what kind of dolomite lime i should get? and how much should i apply in my water? i'm in soil...
 
malignant

malignant

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you use it when you transplant, but if you just let em chill for a few days, keep it just water you shoukd see them bounce back nice and lovley in a week or two
 
jerry zinfadel

jerry zinfadel

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malignant said:
you use it when you transplant, but if you just let em chill for a few days, keep it just water you shoukd see them bounce back nice and lovley in a week or two
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Too late i already put a little less than a tbs per gallon in the water before it hit the soil.. are you sure?? It's used to buffer the ph too isn't it??? well for the next week or so just strictly water anyways....
 
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