Need More Amps. Dryer a Possibility?

wiseguy316

Well-Known Member
Wouldn't it be pretty dangerous to have 50 amps running off a 30 amp circuit???
and its ok I wont use the dryer 12 hours out of the day, Im fine with that
volts times watts equals amp. 3 1k lights , so 3000 divided by 120 equals 25 amps. Where did you come up with 50?
 

yum114

Active Member
50 amp relay is not a 50 amp draw, will just cover surges during start up.
so a 50 amp relay will never pull 50 amps?

excuse me, but I never said I was an electrician which is why I asked the question and stated Id be better off just buying a light controller.
 

wiseguy316

Well-Known Member
a 50 amp relay will handle 50 amps(it does not draw any power), and yes , you prolly should spend 250 instead 20 bucks. rock!
 

TJefferson

Member
Related question: I have a dedicated circuit to my washer, 20A. The plug says it's 6A. There is an additional outlet not being used. Does this sound like I have another ~10A to play with?

Sorry, I'm an idiot when it comes to this shit.
 

yum114

Active Member
Related question: I have a dedicated circuit to my washer, 20A. The plug says it's 6A. There is an additional outlet not being used. Does this sound like I have another ~10A to play with?

Sorry, I'm an idiot when it comes to this shit.
good question
 

That 5hit

Well-Known Member
questions for wiseguy

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few question if you don't mind
i don't plan on doing this anytime soon, if ever, but i do love this type of information. never know when you will need it. it's priceless

1. can this be done using just 1 extention cord
2. if no, why not
3. could i make the cords longer
4. what should the cords be rated for
5. what the max watts this can handle
 

watchhowIdoit

New Member
By the sounds and looks of some of the posts. Nobody in this thread should be playing with electricity. Just because you can make it work does not mean its correct or safe.....
 

wiseguy316

Well-Known Member
questions for wiseguy

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few question if you don't mind
i don't plan on doing this anytime soon, if ever, but i do love this type of information. never know when you will need it. it's priceless

1. can this be done using just 1 extention cord
2. if no, why not
3. could i make the cords longer
4. what should the cords be rated for
5. what the max watts this can handle
1. Yes you could only use one cord.
3. cord can be how ever long the extension cord was.
4. cord needs to rated for whatever the service is, example 30 amp service 30 amp cord
5. max watts is determined by the service, example 30 amps times 120 volts equals 3600 watts per leg of 120 so, 7200 watts
 

watchhowIdoit

New Member
Ever wonder why there is a ground prong on modern circuits? Why there is a white(neutral) and bare copper(ground) wire in todays cords? Why not just have a white and wire things as posted above? Who needs a ground. LMAO The pigtail above may be ok for a construction site or temporary use. Used continuously your asking for problems. You run the risk of having one piece of equipment shorting starting a chain reaction in all components plugged into the circuit. Fuck got milk. 'Got Insurance?'.....
 

wiseguy316

Well-Known Member
Ever wonder why there is a ground prong on modern circuits? Why there is a white(neutral) and bare copper(ground) wire in todays cords? Why not just have a white and wire things as posted above? Who needs a ground. LMAO The pigtail above may be ok for a construction site or temporary use. Used continuously your asking for problems. You run the risk of having one piece of equipment shorting starting a chain reaction in all components plugged into the circuit. Fuck got milk. 'Got Insurance?'.....
if the house is properly grounded what is the problem?
 

smokey green

Active Member
What you want to do is of course discontinue the use of your dryer. Shut off the 30 amp dryer breaker. Disconnect the dryer outlet. Now look at the wires. There should be a red wire, a black wire , a white wire, and a ground. To be able to operate a 1000 watt hps, do the following:

1.) Install a junction box (a metal box used to make wire splices) with the #10 dryer cable on one end and # 12-2 with ground coming into the other side of junction box.

2.) Take the black wire of the 12-2 and with a wire nut splice it with the black wire of the dryer cable # 10

3.) Take the white wire of the 12-2 and again splice it with the white wire of the dryer cable #10

4.) If there is a ground wire, Do the same. (make sure there is no bare wire coming out the bottom of your wire nuts as this will cause a short when pushed into the j box) better yet when finished splicing, tape the wire nuts with electrical tape.

5.) Take a wire nut and nut the remaining red wire. Thats the other hot wire. Unless you want 2 circuits for your grow, if you do, repeat steps 1 thru 4.

6. Now take and simply wire your outlet wherever you like. Black wire goes to gold screw. White wire goes to silver screw, ground to green screw.

Follow these instructions step by step and you will be fine.... I would reccomend only using this solely for the 1000 watt hps. Fans, heaters ect. should be used on another circuit as to prevent overloading. Use this circuit only for the 1000 watt hps...
 

watchhowIdoit

New Member
if the house is properly grounded what is the problem?
Most new houses these days are properly grounded. Yet they have a ground prong beside the neutral and hot leads for a reason. So a short has a direct, uninterupted path back to the box. The way you all are describing interupts the uninterupted path of the ground. Every component plugged into that circuit will be included in any short circuit. As you and I have both stated, some folks just shouldnt play with electricity.
edit: and not to mention the increased risk of personal injury due too electrocution......
 

That 5hit

Well-Known Member
1. Yes you could only use one cord.
3. cord can be how ever long the extension cord was.
4. cord needs to rated for whatever the service is, example 30 amp service 30 amp cord
5. max watts is determined by the service, example 30 amps times 120 volts equals 3600 watts per leg of 120 so, 7200 watts
how would the hook up for 1 cord look
 

That 5hit

Well-Known Member
white and green go to the top, the black goes to either of the bottom legs, not both.
this is what i was thinkng
now would this 1 cord be rated for 240v or is it still 120

and just wondering why not send the white to left, green top, black right
 

wiseguy316

Well-Known Member
this is what i was thinkng
now would this 1 cord be rated for 240v or is it still 120

and just wondering why not send the white to left, green top, black right

each bottom tab is 120 v, so if you ran the white to the left the plugs would have 240v, but nothing 240 plugs in to a regular outlet like this one, the plugs are different.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
i get it. ;)


they make GFA's that can be plugged into each component. they make extension cords with them built right in. for those worried about "shorts". :)

 
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