Dr Greenthumbs G13

[doc111]

Seems you can't either and that's the exact kind of posts that plaque this thread. There is nothing of any substance in that statement what so ever but yet you felt you needed to egg him on.

Neither can you! lmfao!!!!!!!!!! Both you and Brick are a couple of blowhards (like there is any substance in YOUR statement to me?). Continue on with your hatefest.

 

[doc111]

And you don't know that when you are so far behind, you should just give up. You are like someone running a marathon who is so far behind the pack that they actually believe they are way out in the lead because they haven't seen another runner in hours.

You want to re-write history. You said; "I was sort of joking when I posted to SCARHOLE to ask you what you think of subcool," well, yes your first message was directed at him, but your two follow up questions were directed at me and were clearly a baiting attempt on your part trying to get me to say something I am not going to say in an open forum here because as I have said it would start WWIII.

You say that I; "can't stop," but look how you, look at what you had to toss in now after several of us have said let's just let the thread die. You are incapable of letting go, you need to keep rehashing things and revising them and trying to rewrite history because said; "You were being an arrogant prick, just like you are so often and I called you on it." I wasn't being arrogant, but that did not stop you from calling me; "arrogant," and a; "prick" too boot. You are a real example of being arrogant! Evidently; "arrogant" to you is anyone who speaks bluntly, who calls a spade a spade, who does not candy coat and who does not dance to your tune and will not play the puppet on a string for you. If someone tells you something you do not want to read or know and they do so in plain simple straightforward English, you consider that to be; "arrogant" of them when any logical rational person would clearly see it for what it is, complete, total unvarnished honesty.

You said; "You had to go on saying shit like "Not what I think, what I know about subcool." What is it that you "know" about subcool?" Well lil' un, he and I have been on several boards together over the years and I saw him in action in his early years and while I will not start WWIII over it I will tell you that if people here witnessed things I witnessed Sub would not be seen as the beloved; "rockstar/businessman" that he has been described here as being.

You also said; "I'm guessing you either don't really "know" and instead just have an opinion about subcool and his genetics or you are simply a hater who likes to argue for argument's sake. So which is it?" The answer to that is neither. He is loved here by many and few here would accept the facts and most would totally freak out, so as I said, I am not going to start WWIII here. Deal with it because that is how things are and how things will remain.

You said; "You've caught more shit from more people in this thread (and it's like this in most threads you take part in)." I did catch a lot of flak, from a small select group of Dr. Greenthumb apologists. And as for your comment about it being the same; "in most threads," I take part in. That is another weak attempt on your part to create a totally false reality and to attempt to discredit me. Most threads I am in are not contentious threads like this one, most are not where a small group of trolls and flamers target me. That only happens occasionally and when it happens it is because the trolls and flamers simply do not want to read or know or learn the truth and they do not want others to either.

You also said; "I've only really caught shit from you and stonedmetalhead1" So, what is that supposed to mean or be proof of other than your little rat pack sewing circle sticks together like a pack of thieves and once one attacks someone so do the rest. Just because those of us telling the truth about Dr. Greenthumb's fake G13 were more civilized that does not mean you or your side was correct, that because we didn't all gang up on you personally the way you all ganged up on me does not mean what you said was received with more approval. I only had a small handful of people attacking me, but they were relentless about doing it, one was doing it over something totally unrelated to the thread or anything I said in the thread. What does that tell you about your rat pack other than you are all trolls and flamers?

To end the second of your two messages that I am combining and giving one response you said; "If I was baiting and trolling you I would've thought there would be more of your fan club sticking up for you. Where are all your groupies anyways?"

Well what do you think this is, junior high school or something? Do you think everyone belongs to some group of people they believe are cool and if one is attacked the rest rush to their aid, like your troll-filled flaming rat pack did with you? Do you believe this is some popularity site and the most popular person or people are given the most support and by getting the most support that in some way makes what they say right or makes their position the right position?

Your; "groupie" comment fits right in with +-rep and "likes," the things I detest and wish were never thought up because it is all teeny bopper bubble-gummer junior high school-like popularity bullshit and nothing more. I can see how and why you must love it considering your massive ego and your desperate need to have your little rat pack sewing circle watching your back.

I have no interest whatsoever in making friends here or anywhere online. Online is a fantasy world that does not in any way, shape or form crossover or even brush up against my real life. I belong to about five different growing sites right now but I spend most of my time here because by far there are more utterly lost, totally clueless members here than at any of the other sites, and a new busload of the lost and bewildered join every day, and I felt I could be of more help here. Not to make friends, but just to be able to help more people.

Unlike you I don't give a damn what anyone here thinks of me. Not one. These people are not really real to me. They are anonymous usernames from around the world and nothing that any or all of them could ever think of me or say about me could change my real life in even the slightest of ways. They are almost virtual nonentities to me.

If someone asks a question I can answer, I answer it. If I can help them in some way or ways, I do just that. The intelligent and reasonable ones listen and learn and the rest bitch, piss and moan because I do not share in the preaching of their inaccuracies. They take it personally, like a personal attack, when something I write proves them too be inaccurate, so they rant and rage and throw childish temper tantrums and attempt to be clever by doing things like calling me; "Shit Top" and the like, and they think they really put me in my place by doing so.

Well listen up sonny Jim, none of that stuff matters to me. I am here for a purpose and unlike many here it is to actually help rather than to pass on inaccurate bullshit that they are mostly parroting or are stupid enough to believe was learned through what they believe passes for actual research and actual viable experimentation or to be voted the king, or in your case, the queen of the RIU prom.

Most people here who give advice should only be touching their keyboards to scroll through threads and read and clicking their mouse to go to another thread and do the same because most advice given here is about as helpful and high quality of advice as telling someone who is trying to learn how to swim to fill their pockets with lead weights before diving into the deep end or diving off a pier into deep water.

It's no wonder many people on other growing sites laugh at this place and consider it a pre-school for growers, a growers Romper Room, or at best on the level of some community junior college's growing 101 course. So few people here know their assholes from their ear-hole when it comes to growing and many of the rest do not honestly want to learn from the few that actually know about growing and know about strains and know about breeders, and sadly they are totally content remaining ignorant when it comes to virtually everything grow related that is beyond whatever the 'flavor of the month strain' currently is.

At times I do find myself seriously questioning why I remain here. With little clown shoes like frmrboi and you and a number others who live to nip at my heels at times I have to eat a yard of shit for every one person I help, and at times it just does not seem worth it.

At times I wish the small number of members who actually know what they are talking about and are good honest straightforward people would all move on to some other site or sites and we could leave you and your kind to be the perfect example of the blind leading the blind and you could all wallow in the ignorance you love so dearly and hold so precious and bask in the glorious pleasure of knowing that there would never be any risk whatsoever of anyone ever saying anything that would prove you too be incorrect and in doing so bruise your fragile little ego and embarrass you in front of all your little girlfriends.

As for you Ernest Hemingway. You started this with me a long time ago. You are still being insulting even as I am trying to end this. I can see you have no interest in ending anything.

 

[OGMan]

I emailed Doc about all this (again!) and in his reply he maintains it is pure G13. He is aware of this thread and says "he cannot and will not change the facts of the matter to suit his detractors" and that people have always said that his S1s were fake when they were first intoduced but that "over time growers came to accept they were legitimate and this case is no different."/SIZE]

 

[frmrboi]

As for you Ernest Hemingway. You started this with me a long time ago. You are still being insulting even as I am trying to end this. I can see you have no interest in ending anything.

Why would he ? His whole existance is designed around proving his superiority to the human race, being the intellectual runt of the family has left him with a severe inferiority complex.

 

[OGMan]

Why would he ? His whole existance is designed around proving his superiority to the human race, being the intellectual runt of the family has left him with a severe inferiority complex.

I don't know about the last part but the first part I think is true. Bricktop wants to hold himself up as some kind of authority when he is nothing of the sort. He does this all the time. He has desperately used lies and manipulation to make his case all the while using his formidable cut and paste ability to support his case. In my books though, once you go over the line and lie once, your credibility is gone forever.No amount of cut and paste is going to repair that.

If there is an authority on this who has said anything at all, it is Jim (Dogless) Ortega. He has more credibility and his words carry more weight than anyone else who has commented on this and he says it's G13 so in my books, it's G13 and no amount of cut and paste is going to change that either, though no doubt Bricktop will try.

 

[tingpoon]

i have no idea why tude doesnt carry dr g's strains, imho theres no reason not to carry them. just make it available and see how ppl react. fyi, g13 labs strains are selling out?? everyone must be getting obsessed with the pure power plant. before i probably wouldnt have recommended them but after those freebz i changed my tune a bit. seriously tho hopefully "the doc's" strains should become more widely available.

 

[Brick Top]

As for you Ernest Hemingway. You started this with me a long time ago. You are still being insulting even as I am trying to end this. I can see you have no interest in ending anything.

You must be a Democrat the way you are so in love with revisionist history. You claim you are: "trying to end this" but then you say things lie; ""You were being an arrogant prick, just like you are so often and I called you on it." Do you believe calling me a "prick" is a good way to begin a truce and; "end this?" Do you believe that even when the first messages of any exchange in this thread are posted and they clearly show that you insulted me first, after baiting me, and then still claiming I insulted you first is a good way to start a truce and; "end this?"

And claiming that I started things with you; "a long time ago" isn't going to pass the sniff test either. You can make all the claims you want, but claims are only that, claims, accusations, words. I posted our first exchanges and it was clear to one and all that you intentionally baited me and then insulted me, so don't now attempt to play the innocent and don't try to justify your acts by claiming that it was actually the result of something you claim I allegedly said; "a long time ago."

You claimed I started things between us in this thread, but the messages in this thread prove that was a lie. Try being a man for once and owning up to it and stop attempting to alter history and stop trying to justify what you started with some claim of some alleged past act.

The messages in this thread prove you lied about who insulted who first in this thread so your credibility is a bit lacking at the moment and there is no reason why anyone should believe some claim about some alleged exchange that you said happened; "a long time ago" and how supposedly I insulted or attacked you first then, let alone you attempting to use some dubious claim as justification for going after me in this thread.

If you honestly want this to end between us just stop posting dishonest accusatory messages for or about me. If you want the thread to end, just stop posting in the thread all together. It's just that simple. I have no wish to argue with you, but I will not just sit here being called things like a; "prick" or let your fantasy version of how our exchange became heated go unanswered so you can play the innocent and make me out the mean evil hateful ogre.

If you honestly want this to end you will either begin to tell the truth or stop posting. The truth is there for all too see and I am not going to sit back and let you write some fantasy ending to this where you are the innocent injured party that the big bad boogieman attacked first.

 

[Brick Top]

I emailed Doc about all this (again!) and in his reply he maintains it is pure G13. /SIZE]

Most criminals sitting in prisons always claim until released, if ever released, that they are innocent. Wit most every boar like this burning up with threads like this, where most do not believe that Dr. Greenthumb has; "pure G13" if he were to now admit the truth that he has some G13 hybrid he is claiming to be; "pure G13" or some strain he created and is claiming is; "pure G13" he might as well close down his website and retire to a farm somewhere because no one would ever trust anything he ever claimed again. So of course he has to keep claiming that he has; "pure G13."

Did you bother to ask him how a plant that was a scraggly low yielding plant that produced herb that tasted like urine and fecal matter magically and mystically transformed into a heavy producing cash cropper's dream strain and turned fruity flavored? If so, what was his explanation for it? I would love to hear it because when it comes to how fantastic it would have to be it would have to rank right up there with how Moses parted the Red Sea.

 

[Brick Top]

In my books though, once you go over the line and lie once, your credibility is gone forever.

If your; "books" are accurate and meaningful then you are 100% totally lacking in credibility and no one should ever believe a single word you write. Not one single word.

 

[frmrboi]

i have no idea why tude doesnt carry dr g's strains, imho theres no reason not to carry them.

because Doc doesn't farm his seeds out to anyone, period.

 

[Brick Top]

because Doc doesn't farm his seeds out to anyone, period.

Of course. Why should he when he can instead make 100% of the profit?

I'm pretty sure people have found legendary plants from Shanti and Nevil over the years and I don't recall them ever charging $100 a seed. Not to mention Dr. Greenthumb is targeting the medical community nowadays while taking advantage of the lack of documentation to generate business. He sounds like a stand up guy to me. He is someone every Canadian should be proud of. Someone who is charging sick people, people in need, some in desperate need, some of who have a difficult time affording low grade low priced strains, $100.00 per seed for his fake G13.


" NOW AVAILABLE " G13 ♀ (Original Neville's Cut) - (Feminized) - (G13F) : $200 usd ($200 cad) 2 seeds per packet.

http://www.drgreenthumb.com/cannabis_seeds_GreenthumbSeedsEntrance.htm


I bet Canada awards Dr. Greenthumb it's highest award for humanitarianism.

 

[frmrboi]

Someone who is charging sick people, people in need, some in desperate need, some of who have a difficult time affording low grade low priced strains, $100.00 per seed for his fake G13. .

It's $67 , G13 isn't a medical strain. The medical ones are reasonable considering they're feminized.
We have universal health care here in Canada, so even the poor can afford a few seeds as we don't have to pay a king's ransom should we fall ill.
I do agree with you for once, we SHOULD be proud of him, I'm doing my small part to see that the uninformrd are.

 

[Angry Pollock]

Doc used to 'farm' his seeds out

 

[bajafox]

This silly thread still hasn't been locked?

 

[Brick Top]

It's $67 ,

If it's $67.00 then why, right now, at this very moment, his webpage says:

" NOW AVAILABLE " G13 ♀ (Original Neville's Cut) - (Feminized) - (G13F) : $200 usd ($200 cad) 2 seeds per packet.

http://www.drgreenthumb.com/cannabis...dsEntrance.htm

Why do you think I included the link? It was so anyone who doubted the price could follow it to his webpage and read it for themselves.

What, is $200.00 for 2 seeds some sort of secret code in Canada that means $67.00? Or is it another case of how like Dr. Greenthumb is inaccurate about having; "pure G13" his webpage is also inaccurate about the price?

G13 isn't a medical strain.

Really? Then how do you explain away the reviews about G13's medicinal properties? It is a medicinal strain. The proof is found below.

God, don't you EVER get tired of trying to question and contradict me and being proven wrong over and over and over and over again? An intelligent person would learn from that and stop doing it rather than continue to make a fool of themselves.


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The fabled G-13 strains origins read more like legend than actual pedigree – G-13 was supposedly developed and grown by the U.S. government for its marijuana experimentation projects. In actuality, there exist several varieties of G-13, each stabilized and sold by different breeders. In most cases, G-13 is powerfully strong, with a potent body stone and crazy couchlock effects, making this a definite end-of-day strain to smoke. The plants themselves tent to stay short and stocky, with tight, dense buds. G-13 has a very hashy smell that reminds some of burning bubble hash – probably due to its ridiculously high resin production.

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G-13 is a cannabis strain of legends. A very strong variety of indica that is a favorite of anybody who tries it. G13 marijuana will give you a very heavy indica body high.

• Overall Rating: 8
• Top Effect: Euphoric
• Top Medical Use: Stress
• Top Activity: Watch a movie

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Classification: Indica
Growing Environment: Indoor/Outdoor
Flowering Time: 6 - 7 weeks
Yield: High
Medical Uses: Chronic pain relief, depression, appetite loss, anxiety
Breeder: University of Mississippi

It is widely believed and accepted that the famous G13 cannabis originated from the United States government (DEA, FBI, CIA), who allegedly ran a cannabis research institute in rural Mississippi in the 1960's and 70's. Reports were made that a "rebel" government worker stole a clone of a pure Afghani strain of cannabis and distributed it to various connections around the United States. This is mostly untrue however. What is known is that a man who went by the name of Sandy Weinstein had a connection at the government funded cannabis research facility conducted at the University of Mississippi. When a man by the name of Neville Schoenmakers one way or another convinced Mr. Weinstein to persuade his friend at the lab to obtain a strain of prime cannabis. It is said that there was a batch of pure Indica Afghani strains of marijuana. These strains were labeled G1 all the way to G23. The G13 strain that was obtained, cloned and distributed by Schoenmakers is said to have been of much higher quality than any of the other Afghanis.
Ideal for the Sea of Green, this strain grows rapidly with the majority of large, tri-chrome-rich buds congregating on the stem. It also has minimal to no side-branching. This strain gives off a powerfully thick, danky aroma.
Unlike most Indicas, G13 will not lock you hopelessly on your couch, bed or bean bag. This has excellent pain relieving properties, providing the patients with a strong body high and simultaneously giving an uplifting, joyful state of medication.
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G13 Medicinal Marijuana Strain Review
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Grade: A
Type: Indica Dominant (didn’t come across this way).
Price: $50.00 / 8th
Appearance: Well taken care of and full of trichomes. Dense.
Aroma: Chemical pine with a sour apple sweetness, really sticky.
Taste: Similar good taste.
Buzz Type: Energy off the bat, I was right out of my seat and became active and playful. Enjoyed the company I had and had no problem mingling with new faces. Motivated and relaxed, proved a good choice to stay sharp for a day to get things done.
Buzz Length: Long. 2 – 3 hours
Medicinal Use: (We are NOT doctors – personal opinion ONLY) Most recommended for introversion and nervousness, I noticed no pain and had an overall good feeling as well.
Overall: I dig it. Best kind med for a long day, energy driven with no decline accompanied with a good attitude. One to be noted. This bud was kind of a surprise for me, most of the G-13’s I’ve smoked lacked the kick I looked for. Not this one! This is by far one of the best G-13′s I’ve had to date.
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G-13 is a very strong strain of cannabis indica that is the subject of many urban legends. According to some accounts the CIA, FBI, and other agencies gathered the best strains of marijuana from breeders all over the world. At a super-secret installation at the University of Mississippi they bred many new super hybrids in the late 1960s. Allegedly a single cutting of this plant was liberated by an unnamed technician and bred for the masses.
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There are more medicinal reviews about G13 that I can post if you really need to be made more of a fool than you have already made yourself.

The medical ones are reasonable considering they're feminized.

Wait a second there Canuck .... first you said; "G13 isn't a medicinal strain" and you follow that by saying; "the medicinal ones are reasonable considering they're feminized." So are you saying G13; is or is not a medicinal strain? You seem to be claiming both since you did not use any other strain name when you said; "the medicinal ones are reasonable considering they are feminized" right after saying; "G13 is not a medicinal strain."

Are you attempting to have it both ways or is it a case of your farmer education causing you to fail to be clear and specify that you had stopped talking about G13 and then went on to talking about other strains, because only saying that; 'they are reasonable considering they're feminized" does not mention any other strain or strains or even infer a change in what strain or strains you were talking about considering Dr. Greenthumb's fake G13 are feminized.

We have universal health care here in Canada, so even the poor can afford a few seeds as we don't have to pay a king's ransom should we fall ill.

And of course the good Dr. Ripoffthumb ONLY sells to Canadians, right? No medicinal patients outside of Canada purchase his seeds, right?

And actually precisely how does your crappy national health care system even enter into this since you clearly claimed that; "G13 isn't a medicinal strain?" If it is not a medicinal strain then medicinal users would not be purchasing it and your crappy national health care system would not have to pay anything towards Dr. Ripoff's fake G13 seeds. Right? I mean you yourself said; "G13 isn't a medicinal strain"

I do agree with you for once, we SHOULD be proud of him, I'm doing my small part to see that the uninformrd are.

I can see why you would be proud of a man who lies and misrepresents his seeds and rips people off and grossly overcharges for his fake G13. You're Canadian, he's Canadian, that means you will support him to the bitter end, regardless of how criminal-like his actions are. After all, you did say you would support him because he is Canadian so evidently picayune little things like honesty and fair pricing are meaningless to you and only that Dr. Ripoff is a Canadian is all that matters to you.

 

[frmrboi]

you get a free seed with every pack so $200 divided by 3 = $66.6666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666666

 

[hornedfrog2000]

You come off as a snob brick. Endlessly arguing with everyone about anything for nothing more than to prove to YOURSELF that you're right. Get a woman, friends, or a job or something man. You have way too much time on your hands.

 

[bajafox]

You come off as a snob brick. Endlessly arguing with everyone about anything for nothing more than to prove to YOURSELF that you're right. Get a woman, friends, or a job or something man. You have way too much time on your hands.

I'll agree that his approach isn't the best but look at the replies he gets, they have no substance whatsoever. It just seems like no matter how many facts proving his stain is fake BT crams down their throats, it's obvious enough that Dr.G has something else crammed down their throats first and there's no changing their minds.

 

[Brick Top]

You come off as a snob brick. Endlessly arguing with everyone about anything for nothing more than to prove to YOURSELF that you're right. Get a woman, friends, or a job or something man. You have way too much time on your hands.

Thank you for adding something topical and meaningful to the discussion, something that is clear cut proof that Dr. Ripoff's fake G13 is indeed real.

BRAVO!

 

[frmrboi]

You come off as a snob brick. Endlessly arguing with everyone about anything for nothing more than to prove to YOURSELF that you're right. Get a woman, friends, or a job or something man. You have way too much time on your hands.

or eat some prunes

(funny if a Canadian says it)