Dr Greenthumbs G13

[stonedmetalhead1]

Dr. Greenthumb supporters are the one's responsible for trolling up this thread and taking it off-topic. Also couple of them have already stated they don't think he has the original G13 Nevil used to create his F1's either which was the whole point of this thread.

You played a big part in bringing nonsense into this thread also by trolling up brick top so don't think you're so innocent.

 

[OGMan]

Listen. Jim Ortega (Dogless) says it is G13, so to my mind it is G13. Jim has the cred PERIOD and nothing you say is going to change that. Besides that I trust doc; so say what you want, I believe what Jim and Doc say.

 

[Brick Top]

I think this post pretty much sums this entire thread up. Nobody even knows if this strain is for real or not and even if it is, there's not a person alive who can prove it is real or if what they are claiming they have is the "real deal" G13. This thread stopped being about Dr.GT or his G13 a long time ago. It's turned into nothing but a flamefest and nothing productive can ever come of it. Why not just let this thread die a quiet, peaceful death?

I am all for the death of this thread, but I will share some parting words, words that I cannot remember if I said previously in this thread or in another thread on the same topic on another site.

There are varying stories even among those who 'claim' to have had or worked with or knew people who allegedly had the alleged original strain. Some say it was developed by the U.S. Government at the University of Mississippi .. that seems to be the most popular story .. but some swear that the alleged strain itself was confiscated in a bust and when tested was found to be uber-potent and seeds were then sent to the University of Mississippi for growing and researching the strain. Then there is the part where cuttings were slipped out. Some say it is a total myth and none of that ever happened. None of us know for sure and none of us ever will know for sure.

Regardless of that what is known is that Nevil did have a strain that was called G13, a very potent strain that was used in several or more crosses by him and also by a select few others, but by all accounts over time the original lost vigor and died.

While there is an ever so slight possibility that the original exists somewhere, frankly I very highly doubt it. The probability of it still existing, in the same original genetic form, is likely as close to being zero as could be mathematically calculated.

But there is a high probability that some crosses that have at least some percentage of G13 in them, either high or low, do still exist. There are too many of them out there from too many breeders, some highly reputable ones, for me to believe that they are all total fakes, all total lies.

But I really do not believe that the real strain that Nevil and a small number of others did have, regardless of it's true origin, still exists, not in the same genetic form.


So if everyone else is in agreement and ready, I say we dig a grave, toss this thread in, sing "Abide With Me" over it, and let it quietly pass into the endless oblivion of the ethereal air of the Internet and leave the argument to all those on other growing sites who are not ready to stop arguing over something that is as endless of an argument as does God exist or why the chicken crossed the road .... or should that be what came first, the chicken or the egg? Either way, I am sure you all fully understand what I am saying .... well ... all but maybe one of you ... but the rest of you can explain it to him after he's finished picking his onions and orchids.

 

[stonedmetalhead1]

Listen. Jim Ortega (Dogless) says it is G13, so to my mind it is G13. Jim has the cred PERIOD and nothing you pipsqueeks say is going to change that. Besides that I trust doc; so say what you want, I believe what Jim and Doc say.

Marketing, you gotta' love it.

Just so you know using a large bold font doesn't make your statements true.

 

[doc111]

Dr. Greenthumb supporters are the one's responsible for trolling up this thread and taking it off-topic. Also couple of them have already stated they don't think he has the original G13 Nevil used to create his F1's either which was the whole point of this thread.

You played a big part in bringing nonsense into this thread also by trolling up brick top so don't think you're so innocent.

If you're talking to me I wasn't trolling Brick Top. Why is it that he is allowed to be insulting and post whatever the fuck he wants but whenever someone gives it back they are "trolls" or Dr.Gt spammers? I've never defended Dr.Gt, not even once! I could give 2 shits if he has G13 or any other mythical strains. I don't take kindly to being insulted though and I'm guessing you don't either.

 

[stonedmetalhead1]

When you popped on to this thread it was just busting Brick Tops balls saying he should voice his opinion on TGA when that has nothing to do with anything and that's all I was referring to. I was mainly talking about OGMan, Biggybuds, Fletchmen, Frmrboi, and all the other small minded individuals.

 

[doc111]

Yes, the strain itself is a myth. There may be some truth to it but nobody knows the real story or if there is even a REAL strain called G13. I've heard so many different urban legends about G13 I can't even begin to count them all! As for the price?????? If it's really that killer (which I highly doubt) we should have some smoke reports here in a few months and we'll know if it was worth $100 a bean!

When you popped on to this thread it was just busting Brick Tops balls saying he should voice his opinion on TGA when that has nothing to do with anything and that's all I was referring to. I was mainly talking about OGMan, Biggybuds, Fletchmen, Frmrboi, and all the other small minded individuals.

I would like to refer you to post #21 (quoted above for your convenience). I was contributing to this thread loooooong before Brick Top came along. If he doesn't insult me I won't insult him...........it's as simple as that.

 

[Brick Top]

I don't take kindly to being insulted though

Neither do I ... but I was insulted, many times by a number of people, including you.

So in the future you might wish to remember that if you do not like taking return fire, don't fire on someone else first.

Now how about letting the thread finally die, and that includes exchanging insults and attacks?

 

[doc111]

Neither do I ... but I was insulted, many times by a number of people, including you.

So in the future you might wish to remember that if you do not like taking return fire, don't fire on someone else first.

Now how about letting the thread finally die, and that includes exchanging insults and attacks?

How did I insult you first? I don't recall insulting you first. I do recall telling someone to ask your opinion on subcool as more of a joke than anything else and you immediately start in with the high and mighty shit. I also don't really like "knowitalls" and "one uppers".

 

[Brick Top]

I would like to refer you to post #21 (quoted above for your convenience). I was contributing to this thread loooooong before Brick Top came along. If he doesn't insult me I won't insult him...........it's as simple as that.

My first message was number 73 ... and I said I was not interested ... but then the 'rat pack' could not leave me alone and had to nibble at me I was drawn in. Don't act like some innocent child who was attacked by a schoolyard bully.

01-27-2011 05:58 AM #73

Originally Posted by frmrboi ever heard of Google ?
Maybe Brick Top would waste time explaing shit like that, but I'm not interested.

My response, and also notice how I was drawn in, in the first place, by one of the 'rat pack.'

Nope ... I have no interest in explaining anything about a Dr. Greenthumb strain. I won't have anything to do with his strains since a handful of years back when he was selling what he claimed was true Acapulco Gold and I tried it and it wasn't anywhere close to the Acapulco Gold I grew and smoked in the past. It absolutely was not the real thing. It was like average Mexican of the 60's, which wasn't bad, but wasn't top quality either. That was the last time I gave the Dr. any of my money and it will remain the last time.

Someone might rip me off one time but I will not give them a second chance to rip me off again.

 

[doc111]

My first message was number 73 ... and I said I was not interested ... but then the 'rat pack' could not leave me alone and had to nibble at me I was drawn in. Don't act like some innocent child who was attacked by a schoolyard bully.

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My response, and also notice how I was drawn in, in the first place, by one of the 'rat pack.'





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So you were "drawn in"? What, was there a tractor beam on this thread? No self control, what? Look Brick, I don't dislike you, I just dislike how you talk down to people and toot your own horn all the time. I'm aware that you are a knowledgeable guy but you are far from the only knowledgeable grower here. I know you've been told this countless times but there are ways to get your point across and be polite to your fellow site members without rudeness and insults. I don't insult someone unless they've insulted me first. Anybody who knows me will tell you the same thing. I'm about the most easy going person, until you start attacking me. I'm willing to call a truce if you are.

 

[Brick Top]

So you were "drawn in"? What, was there a tractor beam on this thread? No self control, what? Look Brick, I don't dislike you, I just dislike how you talk down to people and toot your own horn all the time. I'm aware that you are a knowledgeable guy but you are far from the only knowledgeable grower here. I know you've been told this countless times but there are ways to get your point across and be polite to your fellow site members without rudeness and insults. I don't insult someone unless they've insulted me first. Anybody who knows me will tell you the same thing. I'm about the most easy going person, until you start attacking me. I'm willing to call a truce if you are.

Yes, I was drawn in ... but the part between us
It started with your message number 352 and my response in message number 353.

Originally Posted by doc111
lol! You should ask Brick Top what he thinks about subcool.

That's actually what I know about SubCool, not what I; "think about SubCool," and that is not something I go into in open forums here because it would instantly start WW III and bring Armageddon to RIU since SubCool is perceived as being such a beloved; "businessman/rockstar" among many here.

Your reply in #354

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[/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE][/SIZE] Originally Posted by Brick Top
That's actually what I know about SubCool, not what I; "think about SubCool," and that is not something I go into in open forums here because it would instantly start WW III and bring Armageddon to RIU since SubCool is perceived as being such a beloved; "businessman/rockstar" among many here.

My apologies...........what you KNOW about subcool. lol!

That never stopped you before Brick.

My reply #355

Originally Posted by doc111
My apologies...........what you KNOW about subcool. lol!

That never stopped you before Brick.

You would be amazed by how many things I know that I have never said .. but again; "That's actually what I know about SubCool, not what I; "think about SubCool," and that is not something I go into in open forums here because it would instantly start WW III and bring Armageddon to RIU since SubCool is perceived as being such a beloved; "businessman/rockstar" among many here."

Your reply #356

Originally Posted by Brick Top
You would be amazed by how many things I know that I have never said .. but again; "That's actually what I know about SubCool, not what I; "think about SubCool," and that is not something I go into in open forums here because it would instantly start WW III and bring Armageddon to RIU since SubCool is perceived as being such a beloved; "businessman/rockstar" among many here."

Like I said: That never stopped you before Brick.

My reply #357

Originally Posted by doc111
Like I said: That never stopped you before Brick.

That is only an assumption on your part. As I said; "You would be amazed by how many things I know that I have never said .. but again; "That's actually what I know about SubCool, not what I; "think about SubCool," and that is not something I go into in open forums here because it would instantly start WW III and bring Armageddon to RIU since SubCool is perceived as being such a beloved; "businessman/rockstar" among many here."

I'm sorry but you are just going to have to live with it ... and of course inaccurately claim I know nothing to tell just because I will not start WW III and tell it in an open forum.

So go ahead and make up all the stories you want ... no matter how many you create all of them put together if multiplied by infinity would never alter what I know too be true.

So you will just have to live with that fact.

Your reply #360

Originally Posted by Brick Top
That is only an assumption on your part. As I said; "You would be amazed by how many things I know that I have never said .. but again; "That's actually what I know about SubCool, not what I; "think about SubCool," and that is not something I go into in open forums here because it would instantly start WW III and bring Armageddon to RIU since SubCool is perceived as being such a beloved; "businessman/rockstar" among many here."

I'm sorry but you are just going to have to live with it ... and of course inaccurately claim I know nothing to tell just because I will not start WW III and tell it in an open forum.

So go ahead and make up all the stories you want ... no matter how many you create all of them put together if multiplied by infinity would never alter what I know too be true.

So you will just have to live with that fact.

Oh, how will I ever 'live with that fact'?

Are you the most arrogant person here at RIU?

Did everyone notice the baiting going on, the pushing of me that doc111 persisted in doing? Did you notice his comment about me being arrogent? That was the very first insulting remark made between us and it was made by doc111, not by me ..... but I did return his fire in my following message.


#361 My reply to your comment about arrogance. Had you not repeatedly baited me and then inferred I am arrogant and asked; "Are you the most arrogant person here at RIU?" .. and insulted me in the process I would have remained civil, as I had previous to your insult by not taking your bait and becoming rude in response to your ongoing baiting of me.

Originally Posted by doc111
Oh, how will I ever 'live with that fact'?

It certainly cannot be any more difficult for you than already dealing with being 'slow,' 'special,' mentally 'handi-capable.'

Are you the most arrogant person here at RIU?

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Nope. As hard as I try there are still others here who top me when it comes to arrogance. Most often they manage the feat by blending in a heavy dose of ignorance with their arrogance and that puts them over the top.

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No matter how much you wish to rewrite history and make it appear as if I am an evil ogre and you are an innocent that I attacked, our exchange is there for one and all to see and it was you who repeatedly baited me and it was you who fired the first shot ... so do not blame me just because you caught your fair share of return fire.

Had you dropped it at that point, I would have ... but you did not ... and you still have not.

Are you finally ready to drop it now .... now that anyone who is still wasting their time in this forum can clearly see that it was you, not I, that fired the first shot, that hurled the first insult and now they all know that you were not and are not the innocent victim you have attempted to claim to be?

As I said, "in the future you might wish to remember that if you do not like taking return fire, don't fire on someone else first."

 

[fletchman]

When you popped on to this thread it was just busting Brick Tops balls saying he should voice his opinion on TGA when that has nothing to do with anything and that's all I was referring to. I was mainly talking about OGMan, Biggybuds, Fletchmen, Frmrboi, and all the other small minded individuals.

$67 a seed for the "Big&Fruity"!! If it is potent, im feelin pretty good about my purchase

Plus the Endless Sky was only $200 for 11 seeds and it looks killer. I also want to try Doc's OG and Bubba someday.

Im thinkin you should give Doc a call and order a pack or two.

 

[doc111]

Yes, I was drawn in ... but the part between us
It started with your message number 352 and my response in message number 353.









Your reply in #354






My reply #355







Your reply #356







My reply #357








Your reply #360







Did everyone notice the baiting going on, the pushing of me that doc111 persisted in doing? Did you notice his comment about me being arrogent? That was the very first insulting remark made between us and it was made by doc111, not by me ..... but I did return his fire in my following message.


#361 My reply to your comment about arrogance. Had you not repeatedly baited me and then inferred I am arrogant and asked; "Are you the most arrogant person here at RIU?" .. and insulted me in the process I would have remained civil, as I had previous to your insult by not taking your bait and becoming rude in response to your ongoing baiting of me.









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No matter how much you wish to rewrite history and make it appear as if I am an evil ogre and you are an innocent that I attacked, our exchange is there for one and all to see and it was you who repeatedly baited me and it was you who fired the first shot ... so do not blame me just because you caught your fair share of return fire.

Had you dropped it at that point, I would have ... but you did not ... and you still have not.

Are you finally ready to drop it now .... now that anyone who is still wasting their time in this forum can clearly see that it was you, not I, that fired the first shot, that hurled the first insult and now they all know that you were not and are not the innocent victim you have attempted to claim to be?

As I said, "in the future you might wish to remember that if you do not like taking return fire, don't fire on someone else first."

The only one re-writing history is you Brick. So now you want to argue over who started it. I disagree with you Brick. You were being an arrogant prick, just like you are so often and I called you on it. I was sort of joking when I posted to SCARHOLE to ask you what you think of subcool. I am not even exactly sure what you think of subcool, but from all the bashing you do on the various breeders and seedbanks it wasn't hard to guess. I happen to be pretty happy with subcool, since I have grown some of his gear. You act like you know all about every single breeder going. You had to go on saying shit like "Not what I think, what I know about subcool." What is it that you "know" about subcool? You ever grown any of his gear? Perhaps if you hadn't been all arrogant I would've dropped it but you had to be your typical knowitall self and start spouting off about something that you "know". Since you won't even talk about what you "know" about subcool, I'm guessing you either don't really "know" and instead just have an opinion about subcool and his genetics or you are simply a hater who likes to argue for argument's sake. So which is it?

 

[doc111]

BTW Brick Top, I would like you to show me (without copy and pasting a fucking novel) exactly which post of mine insulted you first. You've caught more shit from more people in this thread (and it's like this in most threads you take part in). I've only really caught shit from you and stonedmetalhead1. If I was baiting and trolling you I would've thought there would be more of your fan club sticking up for you. Where are all your groupies anyways?

 

[Brick Top]

The only one re-writing history is you Brick. So now you want to argue over who started it. I disagree with you Brick. You were being an arrogant prick, just like you are so often and I called you on it. I was sort of joking when I posted to SCARHOLE to ask you what you think of subcool. I am not even exactly sure what you think of subcool, but from all the bashing you do on the various breeders and seedbanks it wasn't hard to guess. I happen to be pretty happy with subcool, since I have grown some of his gear. You act like you know all about every single breeder going. You had to go on saying shit like "Not what I think, what I know about subcool." What is it that you "know" about subcool? You ever grown any of his gear? Perhaps if you hadn't been all arrogant I would've dropped it but you had to be your typical knowitall self and start spouting off about something that you "know". Since you won't even talk about what you "know" about subcool, I'm guessing you either don't really "know" and instead just have an opinion about subcool and his genetics or you are simply a hater who likes to argue for argument's sake. So which is it?

Look doc, I posted the exact exchange between us ... what you wrote to me and what I wrote to you. Try to be a man for once and stop trying to claim what you wrote to me was really intended for someone else .... and as for the next message you wrote, asking just where you insulted me ... just look at what I posted. It is there in black and white for one and all to see. If you are unable to spot it, it is only because you do not want to spot it.

First you baited me, and went on baiting me, and then you insulted me and no matter how hard you try you will never be able to alter what you did and the words are there for one and all too see. Now in your message above, you have made the same attempts yet once again, but combined and somewhat condensed.

Give it up dude ... anyone and everyone other than your little knitting circle clearly can see how you started things between us. You cannot blow enough smoke to hide that fact, so learn it, live it, love it, deal with it!

As for my; "groupies," as you call them. I don't have; "groupies." I don't want; "groupies." I don't need; "groupies."

Maybe a little girl like you needs RIU; "groupies" to watch your back, but I don't.

 

[doc111]

Look doc, I posted the exact exchange between us ... what you wrote to me and what I wrote to you. Try to be a man for once and stop trying to claim what you wrote to me was really intended for someone else .... and as for the next message you wrote, asking just where you insulted me ... just look at what I posted. It is there in black and white for one and all to see. If you are unable to spot it, it is only because you do not want to spot it.

First you baited me, and went on baiting me, and then you insulted me and no matter how hard you try you will never be able to alter what you did and the words are there for one and all too see. Now in your message above, you have made the same attempts yet once again, but combined and somewhat condensed.

Give it up dude ... anyone and everyone other than your little knitting circle clearly can see how you started things between us. You cannot blow enough smoke to hide that fact, so learn it, live it, love it, deal with it!

As for my; "groupies," as you call them. I don't have; "groupies." I don't want; "groupies." I don't need; "groupies."

Maybe a little girl like you needs RIU; "groupies" to watch your back, but I don't.

Just can't stop can ya?

 

[Brick Top]

Just can't stop can ya?

And you don't know that when you are so far behind, you should just give up. You are like someone running a marathon who is so far behind the pack that they actually believe they are way out in the lead because they haven't seen another runner in hours.

You want to re-write history. You said; "I was sort of joking when I posted to SCARHOLE to ask you what you think of subcool," well, yes your first message was directed at him, but your two follow up questions were directed at me and were clearly a baiting attempt on your part trying to get me to say something I am not going to say in an open forum here because as I have said it would start WWIII.

You say that I; "can't stop," but look how you, look at what you had to toss in now after several of us have said let's just let the thread die. You are incapable of letting go, you need to keep rehashing things and revising them and trying to rewrite history because said; "You were being an arrogant prick, just like you are so often and I called you on it." I wasn't being arrogant, but that did not stop you from calling me; "arrogant," and a; "prick" too boot. You are a real example of being arrogant! Evidently; "arrogant" to you is anyone who speaks bluntly, who calls a spade a spade, who does not candy coat and who does not dance to your tune and will not play the puppet on a string for you. If someone tells you something you do not want to read or know and they do so in plain simple straightforward English, you consider that to be; "arrogant" of them when any logical rational person would clearly see it for what it is, complete, total unvarnished honesty.

You said; "You had to go on saying shit like "Not what I think, what I know about subcool." What is it that you "know" about subcool?" Well lil' un, he and I have been on several boards together over the years and I saw him in action in his early years and while I will not start WWIII over it I will tell you that if people here witnessed things I witnessed Sub would not be seen as the beloved; "rockstar/businessman" that he has been described here as being.

You also said; "I'm guessing you either don't really "know" and instead just have an opinion about subcool and his genetics or you are simply a hater who likes to argue for argument's sake. So which is it?" The answer to that is neither. He is loved here by many and few here would accept the facts and most would totally freak out, so as I said, I am not going to start WWIII here. Deal with it because that is how things are and how things will remain.

You said; "You've caught more shit from more people in this thread (and it's like this in most threads you take part in)." I did catch a lot of flak, from a small select group of Dr. Greenthumb apologists. And as for your comment about it being the same; "in most threads," I take part in. That is another weak attempt on your part to create a totally false reality and to attempt to discredit me. Most threads I am in are not contentious threads like this one, most are not where a small group of trolls and flamers target me. That only happens occasionally and when it happens it is because the trolls and flamers simply do not want to read or know or learn the truth and they do not want others to either.

You also said; "I've only really caught shit from you and stonedmetalhead1" So, what is that supposed to mean or be proof of other than your little rat pack sewing circle sticks together like a pack of thieves and once one attacks someone so do the rest. Just because those of us telling the truth about Dr. Greenthumb's fake G13 were more civilized that does not mean you or your side was correct, that because we didn't all gang up on you personally the way you all ganged up on me does not mean what you said was received with more approval. I only had a small handful of people attacking me, but they were relentless about doing it, one was doing it over something totally unrelated to the thread or anything I said in the thread. What does that tell you about your rat pack other than you are all trolls and flamers?

To end the second of your two messages that I am combining and giving one response you said; "If I was baiting and trolling you I would've thought there would be more of your fan club sticking up for you. Where are all your groupies anyways?"

Well what do you think this is, junior high school or something? Do you think everyone belongs to some group of people they believe are cool and if one is attacked the rest rush to their aid, like your troll-filled flaming rat pack did with you? Do you believe this is some popularity site and the most popular person or people are given the most support and by getting the most support that in some way makes what they say right or makes their position the right position?

Your; "groupie" comment fits right in with +-rep and "likes," the things I detest and wish were never thought up because it is all teeny bopper bubble-gummer junior high school-like popularity bullshit and nothing more. I can see how and why you must love it considering your massive ego and your desperate need to have your little rat pack sewing circle watching your back.

I have no interest whatsoever in making friends here or anywhere online. Online is a fantasy world that does not in any way, shape or form crossover or even brush up against my real life. I belong to about five different growing sites right now but I spend most of my time here because by far there are more utterly lost, totally clueless members here than at any of the other sites, and a new busload of the lost and bewildered join every day, and I felt I could be of more help here. Not to make friends, but just to be able to help more people.

Unlike you I don't give a damn what anyone here thinks of me. Not one. These people are not really real to me. They are anonymous usernames from around the world and nothing that any or all of them could ever think of me or say about me could change my real life in even the slightest of ways. They are almost virtual nonentities to me.

If someone asks a question I can answer, I answer it. If I can help them in some way or ways, I do just that. The intelligent and reasonable ones listen and learn and the rest bitch, piss and moan because I do not share in the preaching of their inaccuracies. They take it personally, like a personal attack, when something I write proves them too be inaccurate, so they rant and rage and throw childish temper tantrums and attempt to be clever by doing things like calling me; "Shit Top" and the like, and they think they really put me in my place by doing so.

Well listen up sonny Jim, none of that stuff matters to me. I am here for a purpose and unlike many here it is to actually help rather than to pass on inaccurate bullshit that they are mostly parroting or are stupid enough to believe was learned through what they believe passes for actual research and actual viable experimentation or to be voted the king, or in your case, the queen of the RIU prom.

Most people here who give advice should only be touching their keyboards to scroll through threads and read and clicking their mouse to go to another thread and do the same because most advice given here is about as helpful and high quality of advice as telling someone who is trying to learn how to swim to fill their pockets with lead weights before diving into the deep end or diving off a pier into deep water.

It's no wonder many people on other growing sites laugh at this place and consider it a pre-school for growers, a growers Romper Room, or at best on the level of some community junior college's growing 101 course. So few people here know their assholes from their ear-hole when it comes to growing and many of the rest do not honestly want to learn from the few that actually know about growing and know about strains and know about breeders, and sadly they are totally content remaining ignorant when it comes to virtually everything grow related that is beyond whatever the 'flavor of the month strain' currently is.

At times I do find myself seriously questioning why I remain here. With little clown shoes like frmrboi and you and a number others who live to nip at my heels at times I have to eat a yard of shit for every one person I help, and at times it just does not seem worth it.

At times I wish the small number of members who actually know what they are talking about and are good honest straightforward people would all move on to some other site or sites and we could leave you and your kind to be the perfect example of the blind leading the blind and you could all wallow in the ignorance you love so dearly and hold so precious and bask in the glorious pleasure of knowing that there would never be any risk whatsoever of anyone ever saying anything that would prove you too be incorrect and in doing so bruise your fragile little ego and embarrass you in front of all your little girlfriends.

 

[stonedmetalhead1]

Just can't stop can ya?

Seems you can't either and that's the exact kind of posts that plaque this thread. There is nothing of any substance in that statement what so ever but yet you felt you needed to egg him on.

 

[Angry Pollock]

this is some seriously funny shiite, lmao