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kiddbudd

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The following pictures show the problem I have been having since I have first started to try and grow my own. I have tried everything over the last year or so to correct the problem. I am growing in clay balls and My PH is always spot on. My roots grow healthy and have no signs of rot nor bugs. I have COMPLETELY sterilized my system several times and have even got rid of the Tent I have grown in with my previous attempts. I have Completely changed the clay balls twice. My temperatures are at 24oC and my airflow both in and out is more than adequate. I have even resorted to bottled water thinking my water was somehow the problem and still had no success My Plant growth is majorly stunted and seems to not grow at all. I have tried growing at 400w, 600w & 800w HPS with no change. I am completely out of options and now I have no choice but to put it out to you my fellow growers and I can only hope one of you wise fellers are on the ball and can help me from throwing in the towel!!! Please note...... YOUR HELP IS MORE THAN APPRECIATED IN ASSISTING WITH MY PROBLEM!!! I BEG FOR YOUR HELP!!! TELL ME WHAT'S WRONG!!Vid0653.jpgDSCF1712.jpgPlease tell me what is wrong in these pics!!!! I have suffered this for so long with no chance of even getting to bloom stage. Please help with a diagnosis and a solution.... And by solution I mean the EXACT cure for my troubles because I have tried EVERYTHING!!!! PLEASE DSCF2652.jpgDSCF1252.jpgS7307640.jpgDSCF1712.jpgVid0641.jpgDSCF1246.jpgDSCF2653.jpgS7307637.jpgDSCF2650.jpgDSCF2654.jpgS7307638.jpgDSCF2655.jpgDSCF1247.jpgS7307636.jpgDSCF1253.jpgDSCF2543.jpgDSCF2544.jpgDSCF1248.jpgDSCF2651.jpgDSCF2657.jpgHELP!!!!! :(DSCF2651.jpgDSCF2543.jpg
 
lime73

lime73

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Can you take pics with hps off? hard to see the color?

what is your ph you say spot on but what is it at?....humidity/feeding schedule / nutes(brand/npk) and amt used?:? all that good stuff
 
bryon209

bryon209

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to me looks like sulfur deficiency . Sulfur deficiencies sometimes can be confused with N deficiencies and may also occur because of an excess of other nutrients in the soil solution. S deficiency symptoms usually start at the top of the plant. There is a general yellowing of the new leaves. In pots, the whole plant may lose some green color. Both S and Mg deficiencies can be treated with the same compound, epsom salts, or bathing salts, which are inexpensive and available at drug stores.
 
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kiddbudd

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bryon209 said:
to me looks like sulfur deficiency . Sulfur deficiencies sometimes can be confused with N deficiencies and may also occur because of an excess of other nutrients in the soil solution. S deficiency symptoms usually start at the top of the plant. There is a general yellowing of the new leaves. In pots, the whole plant may lose some green color. Both S and Mg deficiencies can be treated with the same compound, epsom salts, or bathing salts, which are inexpensive and available at drug stores.
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Cheers for that.... I'll take that note. Thanks
 
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kiddbudd

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bryon209 said:
to me looks like sulfur deficiency . Sulfur deficiencies sometimes can be confused with N deficiencies and may also occur because of an excess of other nutrients in the soil solution. S deficiency symptoms usually start at the top of the plant. There is a general yellowing of the new leaves. In pots, the whole plant may lose some green color. Both S and Mg deficiencies can be treated with the same compound, epsom salts, or bathing salts, which are inexpensive and available at drug stores.
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Why would this be occuring in the first place though? Any Clue?
 
hoagtech

hoagtech

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It looks like your watering them too much. Try switching off the grodan to a breathable insert like STG. You really fucked your plants up man. throw the nasty ones away and start from scratch
 
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kiddbudd

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lime73 said:
Can you take pics with hps off? hard to see the color?

what is your ph you say spot on but what is it at?....humidity/feeding schedule / nutes(brand/npk) and amt used?:? all that good stuff
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I am using nothing other than Canna Vega A+B and a little Ph down when required. My Ph is at 6.0 always and my PPM is at 1680 if thats right by memory.
 
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kiddbudd

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hoagtech said:
It looks like your watering them too much. Try switching off the grodan to a breathable insert like STG. You really fucked your plants up man. throw the nasty ones away and start from scratch
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Are you saying these plants in the pics are totally useless? Thats a bit drastic dont you think???
 
lime73

lime73

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I think 1600 ppm is too much for them at there size...ph should be between 5.5-6.1 so you are on the higher end and bet it creep up to when your not looking? 1600 ppm should be a dose for full bloom!!! not a few weeks old? maybe like 500-750 ppms? to start then gradually rise over the next few weeks...

I would flush with just ph adjusted water only....then only go 1/4 strength nutes at most then slowly up as neeeded...Less is More!
 
hoagtech

hoagtech

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kiddbudd said:
Yes, I have a PPM meter that reads 1680 PPM and I'm feeding them Canna Vega A+B
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You need a feeding shcedule. When it says week 1 it means the first out of propagation so it actually the third week. The 3rd week is actually the fifth week of total plant life. Fox Farm which is notorious for over concentrating there nutrients reccomends 1100-1230 in the 3rd week. So if your not in the fifth true week yet, You are simply burning the crap out of your plants. Try 1100 until bloom next time.
 
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kiddbudd

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lime73 said:
I think 1600 ppm is too much for them at there size...ph should be between 5.5-6.1 so you are on the higher end and bet it creep up to when your not looking? do you look at the chart i just posted? 1600 ppm should be a dose for full bloom!!! not a few weeks old? maybe like 500-750 ppms?
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Ok so say I put it down to 5.8 PH and down to between 500-750ppm and I should see an improvement do you think???
 
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kiddbudd

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hoagtech said:
You need a feeding shcedule. When it says week 1 it means the first out of propagation so it actually the third week. The 3rd week is actually the fifth week of total plant life. Fox Farm which is notorious for over concentrating there nutrients reccomends 1100-1230 in the 3rd week. So if your not in the fifth true week yet, You are simply burning the crap out of your plants. Try 1100 until bloom next time.
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Ok so say I put it down to 5.8 PH and down to between 500-750ppm and I should see an improvement do you think???
 
lime73

lime73

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I would flush with just ph'd water first than go 1/4 strength nutes and slowly add over next few weeks...
 
lime73

lime73

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kiddbudd said:
Cheers I will do. Thanks for your help :)
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No problem...really hope it helps man...but still depends on how much damage is already done...whether they will spring back or not? I'm pulling for yah man! take some more good quality pics and others will be able to give there input too...hps light is to orange to see color in leaf...so if you want people to be able to help, need good pics, shit take em as you go too! now im curious if they will bounce back...good luck bro...+vibes your way man! Peace.:bigjoint::leaf:
 
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