Can I clone 5th week into flower in order to get seeds from the clone?

[StonedWallKid]

I have a couple of plants 5 weeks into flower and was wondering if I were to take a clone with a bud on it...

1. Could I keep it alive?

2. Could I stress it out make it produce a few seeds?

Thanks,
SWK

 

[ganjaluva2009]

yes you can take a clone 5 weeks into flowering...your going to have to re-veg it, meaning ur going to have to put in back into a 24hour light cycle again....yes,stressing it is going to make it produce seeds...but hermie seeds, and hermie seeds usually have hermie offspring....

 

[StonedWallKid]

i thought stress caused seeds? Isnt that why you dont wanna let your plant hermie from stress?

 

[djruiner]

i thought stress caused seeds? Isnt that why you dont wanna let your plant hermie from stress?

stress can cause it to hermie..which will make it pollinate itself to produce seeds..which those seeds will make hermie plants...not good.instead of cloning it...why not collect pollen and pollinate only the one branch of bud you want to pollinate.when a plant gets pollinated the whole plant doesnt produce seeds..only the area that came in contact with pollen.take your pollen from a male plant then use a brush and brush it onto a a single branch and only that one branch of bud will produce seeds...much faster and easier then taking clones to do so...and you dont run the risk of the clones not rooting and dying

 

[Jozikins]

Stress causes male pollen sacks, which will open up, release pollen and and pollinate your flowers, which will then slow flower production to a near halt, and focus on filling your calyx's with seeds, seeds are ripe when they have turned the proper color and busted out of the containing calyx. I am hardly the expert on it.

If you want seeds of your current plant you would have to make a clone and reveg it, find a male of the same strain (or a different one if you are looking to make a cross) and then breed the two male and female flowering plants together. I do not recommend using a revegged plant for breeding, strains lose vigor and yield when they are revegged.

What you can do right now to get seeds off your plants is carefully collect pollen off a father in another grow room, change your clothes and take a shower, then bring this collected pollen (in a container of some sort you used to collect it) and gently brush pollen onto one single flowering branch with a small paint brush. Turn off all ventilation equipment in the room for this process. Go ahead and cover this branch with a paper bag before turning your ventilation equipment and fans back on, remove the bag once seed production has started, and be careful not to shake the plant.

Of course, you can also stress the mother-loving shit out of your current plants, until they hermie, and pollinate themselves, but I DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS. Your plants may not hermy and you may just dramatically cut your yield due to stress. A plant that made hermie seeds are likely to create new plants with hermaphrodite tendencies, and that is no good.

 

[Jozikins]

stress can cause it to hermie..which will make it pollinate itself to produce seeds..which those seeds will make hermie plants...not good.instead of cloning it...why not collect pollen and pollinate only the one branch of bud you want to pollinate.when a plant gets pollinated the whole plant doesnt produce seeds..only the area that came in contact with pollen.take your pollen from a male plant then use a brush and brush it onto a a single branch and only that one branch of bud will produce seeds...much faster and easier then taking clones to do so...and you dont run the risk of the clones not rooting and dying

I like how you said exactly what I said but a lot faster and with a lot less words than me... Dammit. lol

 

[rbahadosingh]

Stress causes male pollen sacks, which will open up, release pollen and and pollinate your flowers, which will then stop producing flowers and create seeds.

If you want seeds of your current plant you would have to make a clone and reveg it, find a male of the same strain (or a different one if you are looking to make a cross) and then breed the two male and female flowering plants together. I do not recommend using a revegged plant for breeding, strains lose vigor and yield when they are revegged.

What you can do right now to get seeds off your plants is carefully collect pollen off a father in another grow room, change your clothes and take a shower, then bring this collected pollen (in a container of some sort you used to collect it) and gently brush pollen onto one single flowering branch with a small paint brush. Turn off all ventilation equipment in the room for this process. Go ahead and cover this branch with a paper bag before turning your ventilation equipment and fans back on, remove the bag once seed production has started, and be careful not to shake the plant.

Of course, you can also stress the mother-loving shit out of your current plants, until they hermie, and pollinate themselves, but I DO NOT RECOMMEND THIS. Your plants may not hermy and you may just dramatically cut your yield do to stress. A plant that made hermie seeds are likely to create new plants with hermaphrodite tendencies, and that is no good.

do you have proof that straisn lose vigor and yield when revegged?

 

[djruiner]

I like how you said exactly what I said but a lot faster and with a lot less words than me... Dammit. lol

i try not to go into complete detail...i hope from giving basic info people will research on their own....people will learn more and have it stick better from researching on their own then just having someone tell them how to do it

 

[Jozikins]

do you have proof that straisn lose vigor and yield when revegged?

Scientific proof? Not a pinch of it. However, this is based on personal experience and is roughly quoted from several respected Marijuana Horticulture books, including by such reporters/authors as Greg Green and Jorge Cervantes (George Van Patten). But, if you give a revegged plants perfect growing conditions and give it all the love and attention it deserves plus a little more, you can absolutely 100% get the same yield as the original, it just wont come as easily if the plant weren't revegged. I have noticed that vigor is almost always decreased, even when I get near identical yields. Quality of the bud is usually still there though. My last two reveggies were actually way frostier than the original but only gave me half the yield, I didn't give them any extra attention.

 

[StonedWallKid]

cool thanks guys! I wasnt aware that a hermie would just seed more hermies.. I dont have any male plants though and after this grow I'm moving and wanted some vortex seeds to take with me.. Oh well, I'll just order some more from TGA

 

[Jozikins]

No homo, but, males are never around when you need them.

I always save 2 seeds from every bag I buy, so I can usually pull another female from them and continue it on if I really like the plant. I am holding on to some whiteberry stock right now, I want to back cross it really badly with blueberry and taste some of that.

 

[djruiner]

No homo, but, males are never around when you need them.

I always save 2 seeds from every bag I buy, so I can usually pull another female from them and continue it on if I really like the plant. I am holding on to some whiteberry stock right now, I want to back cross it really badly with blueberry and taste some of that.

i can contest to that...out of my last 30 plants ive had only 1 male...and not one seed was a fem seed.soon as i get a male no matter what strain it is im saving some pollen...looks like thats my only option.

 

[tet1953]

StonedWallKid, I don't know if you've seen it yet but there is an ongoing thread you might enjoy. It's a tutorial on how to not only create perfectly viable seeds using nothing but a female plant, but they will be feminized seeds to boot. Too late to do it with your current grow, but worth a read:

https://www.rollitup.org/general-marijuana-growing/387589-producing-feminised-seeds-using-colloidal.html

I am doing it myself, and have successfully created a "male" plant, collected and applied pollen (just this morning, in fact).

 

[StonedWallKid]

tet1953 thank you so much for the link!!

 

[rbahadosingh]

Scientific proof? Not a pinch of it. However, this is based on personal experience and is roughly quoted from several respected Marijuana Horticulture books, including by such reporters/authors as Greg Green and Jorge Cervantes (George Van Patten). But, if you give a revegged plants perfect growing conditions and give it all the love and attention it deserves plus a little more, you can absolutely 100% get the same yield as the original, it just wont come as easily if the plant weren't revegged. I have noticed that vigor is almost always decreased, even when I get near identical yields. Quality of the bud is usually still there though. My last two reveggies were actually way frostier than the original but only gave me half the yield, I didn't give them any extra attention.

never heard of strains losing vigor... sounds like a bunch of bull. if anything they would become stronger... just my 2 cents. FYI there are some strains that are CLONE only. i work with one of them now. have been working with it for the past few years.... as i tweak my grows and change things such as nutrients and environment the yield continues to only get better and better... have never went backwards. only continues to go forwards.....