Please help im stuck.

drekoushranada

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Hello RIU. I will be using a 4x4x7 or a 5x5x7 tent to flower in with a 1000w hps. My question is how many plants can I fit inside of the tents? I will be using a modded version of Stinkbuds Aero/NFT unit with the rez outside of the tent. The strains from Nirvana will be topped for 4 main colas if that makes a difference. Thanks for the help.
 

MoJobud

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Hello RIU. I will be using a 4x4x7 or a 5x5x7 tent to flower in with a 1000w hps. My question is how many plants can I fit inside of the tents? I will be using a modded version of Stinkbuds Aero/NFT unit with the rez outside of the tent. The strains from Nirvana will be topped for 4 main colas if that makes a difference. Thanks for the help.
1000w can cover a 4x4 area well. You do the math. There are so many variables at play its never about x amount of plants for x amount of space or light.
 

drekoushranada

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I did take into affect that it would be plenty of variables which I know makes the question a little vague. Well I dont want to do a SoG. I guess im asking if I used 5"x5" fence post with 5 pots per Fence post. Will 30 topped plants be to much. It will be a three part cycle and 10 plants will be harvested at different times. So when the tent is first started it will have only have 10 plant in there until there until the clones are ready. A perpetual harvest. The plant will all be at different stages of flowering. 3-4 week gap. Plus rep for the help guys.
 

sparkafire

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Hello RIU. I will be using a 4x4x7 or a 5x5x7 tent to flower in with a 1000w hps. My question is how many plants can I fit inside of the tents? I will be using a modded version of Stinkbuds Aero/NFT unit with the rez outside of the tent. The strains from Nirvana will be topped for 4 main colas if that makes a difference. Thanks for the help.
If you have read up on Al B Fuct Perpetual grow you should be able to run 4 plants per square foot. You will have to be diligent in pruning and have lots of air flowing around for they will be stacked in there. I am getting ready to post my new set up running 5 - 7 gal buckets 4 plants each doing the same thing.
 

MoJobud

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I did take into affect that it would be plenty of variables which I know makes the question a little vague. Well I dont want to do a SoG. I guess im asking if I used 5"x5" fence post with 5 pots per Fence post. Will 30 topped plants be to much. It will be a three part cycle and 10 plants will be harvested at different times. So when the tent is first started it will have only have 10 plant in there until there until the clones are ready. A perpetual harvest. The plant will all be at different stages of flowering. 3-4 week gap. Plus rep for the help guys.
My only suggestion is that whatever you do, do not spend a lot of money off the bat. Start small. If you think you can handle 30, start with 10 until you find the setup that works for you and your style. I am the kind of guy that likes to think things through before I execute but I can tell you how many things I had to change from my original game plan due to all the other variables in the grow room. 1000W HPS gets hot. Start blowing a fan to cool down the room and the humidity drops and its like a friggen desert. Nothing good comes from a desert climate. Add your inline fan to cool the hood down, great if you don't care about the noise or if you can duct it somewhere. Start small and build from what you learn. I am learning everyday.
 

drekoushranada

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My only suggestion is that whatever you do, do not spend a lot of money off the bat. Start small. If you think you can handle 30, start with 10 until you find the setup that works for you and your style. I am the kind of guy that likes to think things through before I execute but I can tell you how many things I had to change from my original game plan due to all the other variables in the grow room. 1000W HPS gets hot. Start blowing a fan to cool down the room and the humidity drops and its like a friggen desert. Nothing good comes from a desert climate. Add your inline fan to cool the hood down, great if you don't care about the noise or if you can duct it somewhere. Start small and build from what you learn. I am learning everyday.
That is some good info. Just trying to get everything worked out before I start the initial phase. I most certainly feel the angle that you are coming from. I know about things making a lot of noise. I have a 180 gallon reef-ready aquarium in my living room that I designed and that thing can be LOUD with the overflow boxes and pumps it has.
 

dgaf757

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i currently have 20 plants in a 2x4 tent running scrog and as long as you prune and do some sort of training it really is all up to you. my buddy a few houses down is running 42 plants in a 3.5x3.5 box and he gets around 7 grams per plant and still content. but absolutely make sure you have ample ventilation because hes got 2 600 watters and theyll burn the shit outta the plants if you pack it too tightly.


(edit:theres a lot to be said for very limited veg period (i dont veg. at all.) and cut the undergrowth putting all of the plants energy into the main cola. to explain more, i wouldnt do that with a sativa dom strain but it all kinda comes down to trial and error as well as common sense. a good number of smaller plants, packed closer together with no veg time keeps them short stalky and since theyre going to yield at most 18 grams... you can cut that undergrowth and pack them in there. from my personal years of trial and error i know what strains/phenos can handle no veg as well as i pack my plants 6inches apart. my main point is like what someone else said... you make a general plan, but dont go overboard because if you go less you wont screw up a whole harvest youll just know next time that you can go bigger. seriously, theres nothing anyone can really tell you it really is something you have to experience when it comes to planting density, strains, nutes, etc. i wish you the best of luck.)
 

drekoushranada

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^^^^ yeah thats what I figured as well. I know I just have to dive in and learn by experience. Thanks. Well let me start putting this thing together. I will be getting a 440 cfm inline fan that will pull air through the light hood. I will put a ozone generator in the exhaust duct for odor. It will exit out of the window.
 

joe macclennan

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i'm currently running the s.b. system too. i've got my holes drilled @7"o/c and let them veg to around 10-12 inches w/4 tops and most of the little sucker branches pulled. they are still damn tightly packed. i need to thin em out somemore. you will love the growth w/this aero sys. but remember to keep a close eye on your res. temps. and that 1000 watter is gonna get it hot as hell in there. a cooled light fixture will be a must.
me bad i just reread your post and saw your rez is outside your tent so that shouldn't be a prob. but its still gonna get to hot
 

drekoushranada

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i'm currently running the s.b. system too. i've got my holes drilled @7"o/c and let them veg to around 10-12 inches w/4 tops and most of the little sucker branches pulled. they are still damn tightly packed. i need to thin em out somemore. you will love the growth w/this aero sys. but remember to keep a close eye on your res. temps. and that 1000 watter is gonna get it hot as hell in there. a cooled light fixture will be a must.
me bad i just reread your post and saw your rez is outside your tent so that shouldn't be a prob. but its still gonna get to hot
I know it will get hot. I was thinking about changing if from 1-1000w hps to 2-600w hps. They will still have cooled hoods. Just have to see if I can use a regular outlet.
 

dgaf757

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hey the fan set up is definately a good idea, but in my opinion... id put a sinple and cheap inline duct fan for however big your hood flange is in there, and use the fan you have now to pull hot air out of the top of your tent with the ozone gen in it. if you use the fan you have now to do that, it will help you get more fresh air in the tent by creating a vaccume and sucking in cool fresh air. also be careful how big your ozone gen is. i have one and it was too powerful for my tent and grow room and hurt the plants as well as tore my throat and lungs up for a couple days. also theyre not really as good at killing the smells as they say, although they do make a pretty good difference... just a bit noisy.

and hey if you already have a 1000w hps, i wouldnt switch to 2 600's. the 1000's do get hot but 2 600's are quite a bit hotter. if you did that you would need to use your 440 fan to pull out the hot air. and if you have a 4x4 or 5x5 area the heat from 2 600's would be more trouble than the extra light is really worth. my boy with 2 600's in a 3.5x3.5x12 is kicking himself in the ass because 1 1000w would be plenty for that size place and a lot less hassle than running 2 systems. the only reason he still has them are because he bought a second 4 ton a/c system and he has high ceilings (no pun intended) and a large house to circulate the hot air.
 

drekoushranada

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hey the fan set up is definately a good idea, but in my opinion... id put a sinple and cheap inline duct fan for however big your hood flange is in there, and use the fan you have now to pull hot air out of the top of your tent with the ozone gen in it. if you use the fan you have now to do that, it will help you get more fresh air in the tent by creating a vaccume and sucking in cool fresh air. also be careful how big your ozone gen is. i have one and it was too powerful for my tent and grow room and hurt the plants as well as tore my throat and lungs up for a couple days. also theyre not really as good at killing the smells as they say, although they do make a pretty good difference... just a bit noisy.

and hey if you already have a 1000w hps, i wouldnt switch to 2 600's. the 1000's do get hot but 2 600's are quite a bit hotter. if you did that you would need to use your 440 fan to pull out the hot air. and if you have a 4x4 or 5x5 area the heat from 2 600's would be more trouble than the extra light is really worth. my boy with 2 600's in a 3.5x3.5x12 is kicking himself in the ass because 1 1000w would be plenty for that size place and a lot less hassle than running 2 systems. the only reason he still has them are because he bought a second 4 ton a/c system and he has high ceilings (no pun intended) and a large house to circulate the hot air.
Thank + rep to you and everybody that has chimed in. I think I will just stick tp the 1000w hps plan after reading up on the dual 600w lights. So you are saying to use two fans? One for the light hood and the other just for the tent? I do want a negative pressure "vacuum" in the tent. So should the cheap fan be pushing or pulling? I know the 440 cfm fan will be pulling. I was going to place the ozone in the duct and that air would exhaust out the window. That would not cause a ozone build up correct?
 
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