vegetation 24/24 light!

bamse

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i grow indoor,white widow feminized and snow white feminized, someone tried to keep, in vegetation time, light period 24/24 ?? until now i grow in vegetation period light 18/6 and in the flowering time 12/12...but i want to try 24/24 in vegetation period. 24/24 light does not adversely affect on plants in the vegetation ?? negative effects on plants ??

thanks
 

del66666

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i was told plants can only really use just over 16 hours light and the rest is wasted, i know fuck all though cause i never veg...............
 

Serapis

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This is true for some plants, however marijuana does not need a rest period in vegetation.

i was told plants can only really use just over 16 hours light and the rest is wasted, i know fuck all though cause i never veg...............
 

Dizweld

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Like serapis says, cannabis does not need a rest period.

I'm going to point you to alaska during the 24 hour daylight period, where world records are broken when it comes to plants.
 
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1st grow 2 ak48 plants here only been in soil for 24 hrs does light need to b started immediately> if so at 24/24 or 18/6? n how long do i wait to start nutes? im jus given it adjusted ph water now
 

FriendlyGuy

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Like serapis says, cannabis does not need a rest period.

I'm going to point you to alaska during the 24 hour daylight period, where world records are broken when it comes to plants.
i Wanna look more into those world records, sounds interesting considering I was Just watching movies on prehistoric fish, fuckin huuuuge
 

Uvalax

Active Member
The plant might not NEED a rest period but its a good idea indoors. I've heard the plant puts energy towards growing rootz during the dark period, anybody second this because im not sure? The main thing for me is giving the room time to cool. I had to many lights to put through a light timer last year and had to keep them on 24 hours. The room temp climbed to the 90s and it was impossible to get the temps down, even with the cieling off of my growbox for air to escape. When two plants died i could deal with less lights and put the one plant in my closet. Even with no exhaust my temps stayed below 80.

So, if you have good exhaust and the root thing isnt true, then 24 hours couldnt really hurt, but i feel its better for the plant to make it think its still in nature and give it some rest.

And davemeradith, if your growing pot i hope you know a plant needs light so yes, give it some. Give it 18/6 for now to give it a good start and the keep it like that or switch to 24hrs when the seedling stage is over and it begins to veggetate(rapid leaf growth, about 4 weeks of age). Give quarter strength nutes at the same time or earlier if leaves begin to yellow
 

sso

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have always grown 24/24. never notice any problems. (4 years of growing, many different strains)
 

cannabisguru

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you really need to start using the 18/6.

I just got done explaining this in a different thread, where the person asked the same EXACT question.

You need to use the 18/6... and here's why: A cannabis plant.. NEEDS! down time. In other words.. it needs its sleep just like we humans need ours. If you don't give the plant the 18/6 schedule.. and go with the 24/0 schedule.. the plant will never have its down time. In other words.. the plant needs the sleep time.. or lights off time.. in order to properly process photosynthesis.. period.

You can use whatever schedule you want.. but the common sense thing to do.. is use the 18/6 so the plant can process photosynthesis.

good luck whatever you choose to do.

peace.
 

frmrboi

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You need to use the 18/6... and here's why: A cannabis plant.. NEEDS! down time. In other words.. it needs its sleep just like we humans need ours. If you don't give the plant the 18/6 schedule.. and go with the 24/0 schedule.. the plant will never have its down time. In other words.. the plant needs the sleep time.. or lights off time.. in order to properly process photosynthesis.. period.
Total BS, ignore. (and it's 24/0 not 24/24)

24/0 is best. -Ed Rosenthal
This is a direct quote from Ed Rosenthal whom most of you know is a marijuana growing guru:
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marijuana plants photosynthesize as long as they receive light as well as water, air, nutrients and suitable temperature. Photosynthesis is the process in which plants use the energy from light (primarily in the blue and red spectrum's) to combine carbon dioxide (CO2) from the air and water (H2O) to make sugar while releasing oxygen to the air.
Plants use sugars continuously to fuel metabolic processes (living) as well as for tissue building. The plant combines nitrogen (N) with the sugar to make amino acids, the building blocks of proteins. They are the substance of plant tissue. When the light is off, the plant's metabolic processes, respiration and growth, continue.
The plant can photosynthesize continuously so it produces the most energy and growth when the light is on, continuously. Continuous light does not stress the plant, which reacts somewhat mechanistically to it.
Plants under an 18-6 light-dark regimen are producing sugar only three quarters of the time. They are thus growing at only 75% of their potential. Leaving the light on continuously will result in bigger plants, faster, which leads to higher yields."
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"The following information is straight from Greg Green's "The Cannabis Grow Bible"
Cannabis is a light demanding plant. Professional growers keep the light on their plants using the 24/0 photoperiod for this reason. Plants that grow under 24/0 flourish and do not need a quantity of darkness in order to rest and perform photosynthesis properly. Plants that are grown in optimal conditions under 24/0 light regime grow vigorusly and the benefits of a 24/0 photoperiod can be seen actively in the results. More nodes are formed, more branches are created, leaf numbers increase, the plant is growing at its finest.
Some growers opt to use 18/6 as their photoperiod. This is 18 hours of light, six hours of darkness light regime. Under these conditions the plant will grow quite naturally but not as vigorously as the 24/0 photoperiod.
The 18/6 photoperiod expels 3/4 the amount of light that a 24/0 photoperiod does. Although this does not mean that a plant produces 1/4 less leaves,branches and nodes under the 18/6 photoperiod, it certainly does show the correlation between light and cannabis growth. As we have said already, cannabis is a light demanding plant. There are no problems associated with 24/0 and although some have attributed cannabis sexual dysfunction (the hermaphrodite conditon) to 18/6 photoperiod these problems are actually the result of heat stress.
A 24/0 photoperiod requires that your grow room temperature be kept well monitored. The 18/6 option is cheaper to run. You use a quarter less electricity and this will have an impact on your electricity bill. Also the 18/6 photoperiod will generally extend the bulb's lifespan. During the 6 hours of darkness the grow room is allowed to cool down for this period but a well maintained good grow room setup should not require a cooling down period.
24/0 and 18/6 both share the same problem though. Once you start the photoperiod you should keep that way especially when the plants near maturity (the preflowering stage). An irregular photoperiod can cause more males than females to develop. It can also cause sexual dysfunction to appear. Whether you choose 24/0 or 18/6 as your vegetative photoperiod try to keep that photoperiod unitl your plants are mature enough to express their sex."
24/0 is superior insofar as plant growth
 

FriendlyGuy

Well-Known Member
Total BS, ignore. (and it's 24/0 not 24/24)

24/0 is best. -Ed Rosenthal
This is a direct quote from Ed Rosenthal whom most of you know is a marijuana growing guru:
----------------------------------------------
marijuana plants photosynthesize as long as they receive light as well as water, air, nutrients and suitable temperature. Photosynthesis is the process in which plants use the energy from light (primarily in the blue and red spectrum's) to combine carbon dioxide (CO2) from the air and water (H2O) to make sugar while releasing oxygen to the air.
Plants use sugars continuously to fuel metabolic processes (living) as well as for tissue building. The plant combines nitrogen (N) with the sugar to make amino acids, the building blocks of proteins. They are the substance of plant tissue. When the light is off, the plant's metabolic processes, respiration and growth, continue.
The plant can photosynthesize continuously so it produces the most energy and growth when the light is on, continuously. Continuous light does not stress the plant, which reacts somewhat mechanistically to it.
Plants under an 18-6 light-dark regimen are producing sugar only three quarters of the time. They are thus growing at only 75% of their potential. Leaving the light on continuously will result in bigger plants, faster, which leads to higher yields."
-------------------------------------------------------------
"The following information is straight from Greg Green's "The Cannabis Grow Bible"
Cannabis is a light demanding plant. Professional growers keep the light on their plants using the 24/0 photoperiod for this reason. Plants that grow under 24/0 flourish and do not need a quantity of darkness in order to rest and perform photosynthesis properly. Plants that are grown in optimal conditions under 24/0 light regime grow vigorusly and the benefits of a 24/0 photoperiod can be seen actively in the results. More nodes are formed, more branches are created, leaf numbers increase, the plant is growing at its finest.
Some growers opt to use 18/6 as their photoperiod. This is 18 hours of light, six hours of darkness light regime. Under these conditions the plant will grow quite naturally but not as vigorously as the 24/0 photoperiod.
The 18/6 photoperiod expels 3/4 the amount of light that a 24/0 photoperiod does. Although this does not mean that a plant produces 1/4 less leaves,branches and nodes under the 18/6 photoperiod, it certainly does show the correlation between light and cannabis growth. As we have said already, cannabis is a light demanding plant. There are no problems associated with 24/0 and although some have attributed cannabis sexual dysfunction (the hermaphrodite conditon) to 18/6 photoperiod these problems are actually the result of heat stress.
A 24/0 photoperiod requires that your grow room temperature be kept well monitored. The 18/6 option is cheaper to run. You use a quarter less electricity and this will have an impact on your electricity bill. Also the 18/6 photoperiod will generally extend the bulb's lifespan. During the 6 hours of darkness the grow room is allowed to cool down for this period but a well maintained good grow room setup should not require a cooling down period.
24/0 and 18/6 both share the same problem though. Once you start the photoperiod you should keep that way especially when the plants near maturity (the preflowering stage). An irregular photoperiod can cause more males than females to develop. It can also cause sexual dysfunction to appear. Whether you choose 24/0 or 18/6 as your vegetative photoperiod try to keep that photoperiod unitl your plants are mature enough to express their sex."
24/0 is superior insofar as plant growth

I cant wait to see the response from Cannibisguru im sure he has some evidence to contradict this claim! right Cannibusguru?...
 

Serapis

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Ignore the information provided below please. Cannabis is classified as a c3 plant. c4 plants DO require a rest period, c3 plants do not. This is scientific fact, known by any serious horticulturalist or hobbyist. Cannabis photosynthizes 24 hours a day, 7 days a week while in a vegetative state.

The plant's photosynthetic rate determines its growth rate because the sugars are used by the plant to build tissue and for energy. Cannabis under continuous light will grow 33% faster than the same plants on an 18-6 light regime.

http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/articles/3127.html

Spreading myths and distorted facts in the face pf proven science will not do our hobby any good. Please take the time to educate yourself in regards to c3 and c4 pant classifications before you perpetrate your distortions any further.

You'll do the community a better service. ;)

you really need to start using the 18/6.

I just got done explaining this in a different thread, where the person asked the same EXACT question.

You need to use the 18/6... and here's why: A cannabis plant.. NEEDS! down time. In other words.. it needs its sleep just like we humans need ours. If you don't give the plant the 18/6 schedule.. and go with the 24/0 schedule.. the plant will never have its down time. In other words.. the plant needs the sleep time.. or lights off time.. in order to properly process photosynthesis.. period.

You can use whatever schedule you want.. but the common sense thing to do.. is use the 18/6 so the plant can process photosynthesis.

good luck whatever you choose to do.

peace.
 

Serapis

Well-Known Member
What possible evidence could he have to refute known science? It's not the first time he has given highly questionable advice. What pisses me off is, the OP sent me a PM right after posting this thread.. I told him go 24/7.... Now I have to explain to him best I can in English that CannabisGuru doesn't know what he is talking about.... thanks guru for taking an easy subject and twisting it all to hell with distortions and BS....

Your herbs in the kitchen may require a rest... Cannabis does not. Well known fact...
I cant wait to see the response from Cannibisguru im sure he has some evidence to contradict this claim! right Cannibusguru?...
 

Uvalax

Active Member
This is a very intersting discussion. Congrats to yall that know your shit, i have learned something new today. When i had my plant under 24 hours i guess it did grow kind of fast. I still stick by the fact that if you dont have exellent exhaust to stick to 18/6 but if you dothen 24/7 lights would do miracles. Anyone have anything to say about the roots growing more at night? A c3 plant might not NEED the rest but that doesnt mean it doesnt help... Please prove me wrong if not.
 

Serapis

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It is your hypothesis, please prove it correct.... ;)

This is a very intersting discussion. Congrats to yall that know your shit, i have learned something new today. When i had my plant under 24 hours i guess it did grow kind of fast. I still stick by the fact that if you dont have exellent exhaust to stick to 18/6 but if you dothen 24/7 lights would do miracles. Anyone have anything to say about the roots growing more at night? A c3 plant might not NEED the rest but that doesnt mean it doesnt help... Please prove me wrong if not.
 
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