Prepetual Ebb & Flow

drgreentm

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i just keep mine in like my dwc systems below 70 if it gets above that it can cause the slime and algae this is where the h202 is best suited in higher res temps.
 

shnkrmn

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What makes hempy attractive and convenient, especially to inexperienced growers, is it is very very hard to overwater in hempy the way you can in soil. New growers tend to love their plants to death with too much attention, trimming, watering nuting, etc. Because hempy media (perlite, vermiculite) don't retain much water, the bucket with the hole 2 inches up the side creates a mini-reservoir that the roots seek out. Also the relatively large particle size of the media insures that plenty of gas exchange can take place in the root zone, discouraging anaerobic rotting. So if you are a chronic over-waterer, no worries; your solution drains out of the medium except the bottom two inches so your roots neither drown nor parch. Likewise, if you get in the weeds with over-fertilizing, you have a much better chance of resolving the issue through flushing than you do in soil, because the chems just don't bond to perlite the way they do to the complicated substance that is soil, so you are more likely to bring your nute levels down successfully. My first grow that really gave me a happy face was all hempy.
 

drgreentm

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What makes hempy attractive and convenient, especially to inexperienced growers, is it is very very hard to overwater in hempy the way you can in soil. New growers tend to love their plants to death with too much attention, trimming, watering nuting, etc. Because hempy media (perlite, vermiculite) don't retain much water, the bucket with the hole 2 inches up the side creates a mini-reservoir that the roots seek out. Also the relatively large particle size of the media insures that plenty of gas exchange can take place in the root zone, discouraging anaerobic rotting. So if you are a chronic over-waterer, no worries; your solution drains out of the medium except the bottom two inches so your roots neither drown nor parch. Likewise, if you get in the weeds with over-fertilizing, you have a much better chance of resolving the issue through flushing than you do in soil, because the chems just don't bond to perlite the way they do to the complicated substance that is soil, so you are more likely to bring your nute levels down successfully. My first grow that really gave me a happy face was all hempy.
thanks a bunch man i couldnt have put it in any better words at all +rep for you i havent watered since the transplant and they are still standing tall prably water a little today but prably dont need to they are very easy and practically no work needed for them.
 

themoose

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lookin like trimmin those lower branches was defff the way to go, this is great to see because I'm literally on my way to the same setup. Everything is in place im just waiting for the mommy's to grow out so I can clone...How long would you say you waited from seed or clone to take your first cutting of clones? I've grown for years but just never cloned myself; always had clones from buddies or just grew from seed...

thanks!

-moose :leaf:
 

drgreentm

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lookin like trimmin those lower branches was defff the way to go, this is great to see because I'm literally on my way to the same setup. Everything is in place im just waiting for the mommy's to grow out so I can clone...How long would you say you waited from seed or clone to take your first cutting of clones? I've grown for years but just never cloned myself; always had clones from buddies or just grew from seed...

thanks!

-moose :leaf:
whats up moose glad to see you are still lurkin around here lol. the lower branch trimming is GREAT allot bigger buds at the canopy already cant wait for another few weeks man im very happy. al gave me this advice and im sticking to it all the way thats the thing about sog ether you go all sog or you wont be happy there really is no happy medium. anyway i usually take clones when the seedling had alternating nodes this means it is mature. allthough i have taken clones way sooner than that as i get very impatient and it has worked fine (may take a little longer to get roots) but i usually clone the seedling and as soon as the clone roots i put the seedling in flower cause the clones will outgrow the seeds every time (from my personal experience anyway) so i keep the clone as a mom and let the seedling go.
 

bassman999

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no worries man the two valves at the bottom are drains allot like a soil pot what you do when making one of these is measure up from the bottom of the bucket 2" and drill the holes so basically when you hand water the bottom 2" of the bucket always has water anything over the mark comes out the holes and brings the level back down. it simulates the outdoors if you dig in the ground and go deep enough you will find water same general concept.
I gotcha man, gotta avoid root rot!!
 

themoose

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whats up moose glad to see you are still lurkin around here lol. the lower branch trimming is GREAT allot bigger buds at the canopy already cant wait for another few weeks man im very happy. al gave me this advice and im sticking to it all the way thats the thing about sog ether you go all sog or you wont be happy there really is no happy medium. anyway i usually take clones when the seedling had alternating nodes this means it is mature. allthough i have taken clones way sooner than that as i get very impatient and it has worked fine (may take a little longer to get roots) but i usually clone the seedling and as soon as the clone roots i put the seedling in flower cause the clones will outgrow the seeds every time (from my personal experience anyway) so i keep the clone as a mom and let the seedling go.
Ya that's def true..If I replace the plant I took the clone from with one of its clones, the clone will outgrow the seed-started mother...that's what you're sayin' i think?
makes sense to me :eyesmoke:
 

drgreentm

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whats up guys i turned my dwc cloner into a aero cloner it was pretty easy now i have never cloned in anything but a humidome and i usually get roots in 14 days from cutting and i was ok with that im just interested in being able to keep my clones in the cloner for weeks after rooting. so im very new to this cloning style so if anybody has any advice on how to get good roots it would be greatly appreciated again im not aiming for 5 days just at least 2 weeks. I also transferred all the mother/veg equipment into another closet in my spare bedroom where it stays allot cooler for some reason cause im trying to keep the water in the aero cloner cooler so no slime occurs the temps are nice at 70 and the water is around the same im also using clonex rooting gel and just regular tap water at 5.5 ph.
 

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drgreentm

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also dont know if you can tell in the picture but out of the 30 clones i took about 5-6 of the clones are drooped (some just leaves some the whole stem) is this normal all the others look perky and standing tall.

i cut stem at 45 deg angle dip in soulution then scrape the 1/4" of the bottom tip then cut down the middle of stem about 1/4" as well then another dip and to the system.
 

bassman999

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whats up guys i turned my dwc cloner into a aero cloner it was pretty easy now i have never cloned in anything but a humidome and i usually get roots in 14 days from cutting and i was ok with that im just interested in being able to keep my clones in the cloner for weeks after rooting. so im very new to this cloning style so if anybody has any advice on how to get good roots it would be greatly appreciated again im not aiming for 5 days just at least 2 weeks. I also transferred all the mother/veg equipment into another closet in my spare bedroom where it stays allot cooler for some reason cause im trying to keep the water in the aero cloner cooler so no slime occurs the temps are nice at 70 and the water is around the same im also using clonex rooting gel and just regular tap water at 5.5 ph.
I am curious to see how this works out.
I take it you have 2 totes same size stacked, but one is deeper and used for the res. The other is fed water on a timer and mists. Does the water drain back to the bottom ?
 

drgreentm

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I am curious to see how this works out.
I take it you have 2 totes same size stacked, but one is deeper and used for the res. The other is fed water on a timer and mists. Does the water drain back to the bottom ?
yup thats exactly what it is a deeper tote has the water in it the top tote has the sprayers timer is every 15 for 15. i have a bunch of small holes drilled in the top tote for drainage you cant really see them in the pic though.
 

bassman999

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yup thats exactly what it is a deeper tote has the water in it the top tote has the sprayers timer is every 15 for 15. i have a bunch of small holes drilled in the top tote for drainage you cant really see them in the pic though.
Great way to do it! So the rooting hormone is in the water too? 15 on 15 off etc....just dont know where you got the foam inserts.
 

drgreentm

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Great way to do it! So the rooting hormone is in the water too? 15 on 15 off etc....just dont know where you got the foam inserts.
i dont have anything in the water just ph'd tap water just dip stem in the clonex and thats it heard that people say they do put additive in the water not sure am i supposed to add some clonex in the water? lol i have no idea how these things work. i got the neoprene collars from the hydro store in my area.
 

bassman999

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i dont have anything in the water just ph'd tap water just dip stem in the clonex and thats it heard that people say they do put additive in the water not sure am i supposed to add some clonex in the water? lol i have no idea how these things work. i got the neoprene collars from the hydro store in my area.
cut the holes in lid with razor knife or an exacto knife?
 

drgreentm

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cut the holes in lid with razor knife or an exacto knife?
i used a 2" hole saw makes perfect holes thinking about using some net pots and cutting the bottoms out for some added support not sure its totally necessary but would prably make handling the cuttings a little easier.
 

djfloms

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How did you make the stand for your flood tables? And what size tables are you using? I'm trying to setup something similar, any help is appreciated!
 

drgreentm

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the stands where made from 3/4" pvc pipe and 8 3/4 pvc T's they are pretty easy to make i use pvc glue as well to hold it all together well.
 
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