Well Here Goes Again

NONHater · Jan 31, 2011

Hey Uncle Been, D is a good friend of mine and we were both wondering if you could possibly give us your insight on a Hermie that at first shows male flowers then later shows females flowers.

This is it here. 10 days 12/12 vegged for about 4-5 weeks. It's a F1 cross.

Just wondering what your thoughts were on it?

By the way love the info you have put into the growing community. It's cause of you I do 20/4 for veg instead of 18/6 :-P

Danielsgb · Jan 31, 2011

I saw this and was wondering if this was an example. :leaf:

Thanks UB
From DJ Short.

(A quick word on "backward" hermaphrodites declared males that eventually sport female flowers as opposed to the usual female-to-male hermaphrodites. These are semi-rare occurrences, usually sterile but sometimes viable, that I have found at times to be valuable in their genetic contributions. Some of the most resinous and desirable males I have encountered exhibited this trait. This trait almost seems to guarantee against unwanted hermaphroditism in subsequent generations as it also increases the female to male ratio in its progeny.)

Danielsgb · Feb 1, 2011

I'm off to the capital to testify on a repeal bill tomorrow. Some people need to learn about Endocannibinology. I will also be talking about Cannabis and nerve cell growth, which scientists can't explain.
I got some pics from taking the shelf out in the FrigiDare, but no time to upload. I wrote out all feedings for the H.G., but I'll be back Thur. I'm bringing the laptop so I'll check in.
Hope all is staying green for everybody.
Daniels

gumball · Feb 1, 2011

Best wishes on your journey, you will do well. Just hope your talking to some open minded folks, or at least a majority of open minded folks :wink:

jsgamber · Feb 1, 2011

This is a good thing you are doing Daniels. God speed!

:peace:

Danielsgb · Feb 1, 2011

If anyone is following and wants to help you can. Please call 1-406-444-9800 tomorrow. Say you want them to vote no on HB 161 to repeal Med MJ and be polite, make up a name, then for address use
3100 Rim Point Dr Billings, MT 59106, which is the
Latter Day Saints Temple

Who is against us. Maybe closed till tomorrow morning. Hearing is 3 pm
Thanks
Daniels :leaf:

gumball · Feb 1, 2011

Just set my reminder, you have my support bro :wink:

Danielsgb · Feb 2, 2011

Danielsgb said:
If anyone is following and wants to help you can. Please call 1-406-444-9800 tomorrow. Say you want them to vote no on HB 161 to repeal Med MJ and be polite, make up a name, then for address use
3100 Rim Point Dr Billings, MT 59106, which is the
Latter Day Saints Temple

Who is against us. Maybe closed till tomorrow morning. Hearing is 3 pm
Thanks
Daniels

Just a reminder, it's 8:30 local time :leaf:

Uncle Ben · Feb 2, 2011

Good luck Daniels. As far as the hermie goes, I wouldn't use it as breeding stock, just smoke it. Whether a plant starts as female or male and then reverses sex is immaterial to me, it's just not stable. Alot of tropical types (sativas) are prone to that trait.

Now, after a female has been flowering for a long time, appears ready for harvest and starts showering "bananas" or imperfect male flower parts, that's just its way of telling you it's time to harvest.

gumball · Feb 2, 2011

Uncle Ben said:
Now, after a female has been flowering for a long time, appears ready for harvest and starts showering "bananas" or imperfect male flower parts, that's just its way of telling you it's time to harvest.

it is nice to hear such an experienced grower say that. I beleive that to be the case after watching so many grows. Plus they dont seem to go full out hermie when that occurs, maybe half a dozen to a dozen seeds from what I have seen, but you have been doing this much, much longer than I

gumball · Feb 2, 2011

Danielsgb said:
If anyone is following and wants to help you can. Please call 1-406-444-9800 tomorrow. Say you want them to vote no on HB 161 to repeal Med MJ and be polite, make up a name, then for address use
3100 Rim Point Dr Billings, MT 59106, which is the
Latter Day Saints Temple

Who is against us. Maybe closed till tomorrow morning. Hearing is 3 pm
Thanks
Daniels

Sorry Daniels, the number took me to the State of Montana's Unemployment Insurance Benefit voice response system!!!

jsgamber · Feb 2, 2011

gumball said:
Sorry Daniels, the number took me to the State of Montana's Unemployment Insurance Benefit voice response system!!!

Daniels,

Same for me BUT that didn't stop me from looking around. Today 2/2/2011 they are hearing testimony (such as my good friend Daniels) and on 2/4/2011 they will vote.

Here's the link I dug up that allows you to file a letter. Today, I'm a temporary resident of Montana!

===> CLICK HERE TO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD <===
:weed:

Hope this helps people find their way. :bigjoint:

gumball · Feb 2, 2011

jsgamber said:
Daniels,

Same for me BUT that didn't stop me from looking around. Today 2/2/2011 they are hearing testimony (such as my good friend Daniels) and on 2/4/2011 they will vote.

Here's the link I dug up that allows you to file a letter. Today, I'm a temporary resident of Montana!

===> CLICK HERE TO MAKE YOUR VOICE HEARD <===

Hope this helps people find their way.

BRILLIANT

Gonna borrow this!!!

crazytrain14 · Feb 2, 2011

so what should i vote for on that site. im down to help out just dont know whats going on lol

gumball · Feb 2, 2011

vote NO on the repeal

bigman4270 · Feb 2, 2011

Just submitted my letter.

Hope it help's!

Danielsgb · Feb 2, 2011

Uncle Ben said:
Good luck Daniels. As far as the hermie goes, I wouldn't use it as breeding stock, just smoke it. Whether a plant starts as female or male and then reverses sex is immaterial to me, it's just not stable. Alot of tropical types (sativas) are prone to that trait.

Now, after a female has been flowering for a long time, appears ready for harvest and starts showering "bananas" or imperfect male flower parts, that's just its way of telling you it's time to harvest.

Thanks again UB, :leaf:

that paragraph from DJ Short had me wondering about it. The stability being effected makes sense. I knew a female to hermie males sacs is an immediate culling, just had NONHater find this so hoped we were on to something. Maybe a fun little test, but I see what you mean.

Why are Sativas prone to that trait? I've read they are more homozygous compared to Indicas. Indicas being more heterozygous since they have to weather adverse conditions, compared to the tropics. :eyesmoke:

I'm not sure if it was from a nugget of yours, but I use the late bananas to determine harvest if needed.

bigman4270 said:
Just submitted my letter.

Hope it help's!

Thanks everyone who added to the stack of No repeal. It was 25 to testify to repeal, 86 for no repeal. We still both got 45 min., but I was in the beginning so I got 3-4 min to say the bare bones in.
After it many of us met at a brew pub, where I met the Mayor of Helena who is in support of us. He has a relative who he saw Cannabis heal cancer. It will most likely pass but full vote will fail, but you never know. :dunce:

I can see me coming back to testify. I laid the groundwork for an eventual Medical Necessity Defense if they can repeal it. I have proof my MS would progress faster.
I also added HIIPPA regulations are valid so disclosing med records is a crime. It would take a court order for me to reveal my 1 patient. They wants to look it up fine, better be following same as a hospital would. :finger:

Daniels

Uncle Ben · Feb 3, 2011

Don't have a clue about the sativas wanting to do the AC/DC thingie. Should come down to the "survival of the species" thingie.

Sounds like your plate is full, good on ya!

Danielsgb · Feb 3, 2011

Uncle Ben said:
Sounds like your plate is full, good on ya!

Keeping busy for sure. I plan to start on my Senators to at the least re-schedule it to Schedule 2. I will hound them till they do or meet me to tell me to my face why they won't.
The US gov. holds the patent for it's medical uses so how can they deny it?

On to my next question or advice needed. I got my soil report back from A&M. I added 1 teaspoon of the time release Humic Acid mix to 1 gallon of soil. I mixed it good, but why would some of these numbers go down. I assumed they do run off testing among others.
Here's the base soil and new analysis in blue. differences in red.
pH 7.1 Slightly Alkaline 6.7 Slightly Acid -.4
Conductivity 500 umho/cm Slight 1,430 Moderate +930
Nitrate-N 49 ppm Critical Levels are CL and N is - 258 +209
Phosphorus 95 ppm CL 50 156 +61
Potassium 331 ppm CL 175 483 +152
Calcium 2,822 ppm CL 180 3,667 +845
Magnesium 445 ppm CL 50 522 +77
Sulfur 86 ppm CL 13 151 +65
Sodium 192 ppm CL - 158 -34
Iron 45.10 ppm CL 4.25 47.60 +2.5
Zinc 4.36 ppm CL .27 4.41 +.05
Manganese 15.36 ppm CL 1.00 12.79 -2.57
Copper 1.07 ppm CL .16 .85 -.22
New analysis with time release Humic Acid & others from my Uncle Wes ;-)

The base Soil Analysis :blsmoke:

So why would it drop the Sodium, Manganese, & Copper? :eyesmoke:

So would it be an 4-1-3 since it's NPK spike was roughly that ratio? :mrgreen:

So do you think 1 teaspoon would be the right amount to add when I try using it to a gallon of soil?. Would a 200 ppm added for nitrate make it too hot or is that a trial to see thing?
I don't know what Conductivity is in soil, but I assume moderate is good. Jack's Classic should be fine for all the micro nutrients. Calcium didn't rise on the graph despite a large increase. It says CL is 80 and it went to 3,667.

Since I showed you how do do Full Pics, could you tell me how you divide a quote to answer in two, or three parts? :mrgreen:

I got some pics of stuff when I got home but I'll probably get to all tomorrow.
Daniels :eyesmoke: