Gotti's 600w Organic Perpetual Vert

[D.Gotti]

The new thread for my general organics grow thats starting. Ill edit with all the details when the ghs super silver haze wears off a bit.

Welcome!

Edit- The basics.

Ill have two mothers in 5 gallon smart pots under a 216w 4ft 4-bulb T5HO. They will be Bubba Kush, my choice, and Super Lemon Haze, my wifes choice.

I will be vegging two 10-12 inch rooted clones at a time, in 5 gallon bags, under four 42w CFLs, two per plant.

Im debating on veg time because im looking for a finishing height of about 4 feet. Help is welcome!

Ill be flowering with a vertically hung bare 600w HPS bulb, in a 5x5 tent. I will have a max of four plants in the tent.

Ill be harvesting two plants per month, alternating the two strains so the mothers will have a month of recovery each.

Ill be using the General Organics line of nutrients, from General Hydroponics. It does not require PH adjustments.

Stay tuned for more!


p.s.- The T5HO will be set up next week, and the mothers will be in the smart pots.

The four CFLs will be angled to accommodated only two 5 gallon bags.

The four bags in the shot are for the Bubba Kush from seed in the cups.

Ill use a clone from the best one as the Bubba mother plant.

There is a Party Cup Contest plant and a Freebie in a 1 gallon pot in the flowering tent.

 

[Withthebiscuit]

subscribed!

 

[D.Gotti]

I transplanted the four Bubba Kush into the 5 gallon bags. They are a week old, and I noticed they seem to grow faster in 4" square pots than the party cups.

They have been in the 5 gallons for a day and they look happy. Their first feeding was today too.

 

[D.Gotti]

5th Bubba Kush from seed in 1 gallon. Four rooted cuttings from unknown freebie.

The other four have seeds in them, planted today, Super Lemon Haze, C99, Purple Diesel, Pineapple Express.

 

[D.Gotti]

Whats in flower. Party Cup Entry, and Unknown Freebie. (aka. GO nutes testers)

The Party Cup is Day 14 of 12/12, and the Freebie is Day 25 of 12/12.

 

[crunkyeah]

Nice looking setup you have there. I have a couple questions. How are the temps with the 600w bare bulb? Do you have a beast of a fan exhausting hot air at the top of the tent? Your girls look great by the way!

I've been thinking a lot about a vertical system myself, will be looking forward to your harvest/s!

 

[D.Gotti]

Thanks man.

My temps are usually below 80F. I use a 6" duct fan that cost me $25, and my tent is usually partially open during lights on. I also use CO2, so i dont mind my temps getting up to 85F.

CO2 via yeast/sugar/water mix. Costs me $1 a day. Thats half the price of a boost bucket.

 

[crunkyeah]

Wow that's pretty good considering the wattage you've got in there. Is the ballast mounted outside the tent or inside? I'm sure that makes a difference.

Also, doesn't it kinda seem detrimental to have CO2 with the door open? You're essentially letting all the CO2 escape from the bottom of the tent opening. From what I understand about CO2, sealed rooms are much better since you can control PPMs that way. Just my thoughts

I've always been the kinda guy that wants to get his system completely dialed in before adding CO2. But to each their own, I'm sure you're setup is gonna turn out great just gotta give it some time

 

[D.Gotti]

the room the tent is in is a sealed room, the entire room is loaded with C02. only the top half of the tent is open to allow mostly heat to escape. the C02 is sucked in through the low intake ports and vigorously blown up and around the inside of the tent by the vertical facing fan.the exhaust fan just vents back into the room. so the vegging plants, mothers, and clones all get C02. i dont control the ppm level or even check it. the bottles i use last 1 day. as long as i have a bottle going, it is dispensing C02. this method wont ever exceed 1500ppm, so i dont need to test and control it. i may see 700-1000ppm at most. ill use a friends meter to check it eventually.

im not sure why you would run a setup then add C02. they grow bigger and faster with C02. if you start using it after your "dialed in", you wont have any idea of how fast they will grow and how long you want to veg. thats an important part of getting "dialed in".

 

[D.Gotti]

Update tomorrow. It will be week 2 for the Bubbas. (day 14)

The party cup showed her lady parts yesterday.

Heres a picture of a rooted cutting, out of the cup.

 

[D.Gotti]

The Pineapple Express and Super Lemon Haze seeds have sprouted. The Purple Diesel and C99 should be close behind.

They will all be under the T5HO, with the Bubba mother. Ill have the light hung this weekend.

The Bubba Kush are at 2 weeks today. (day 14)

 

[D.Gotti]

$15 a month for odor control!

Ona Pro Mist.

 

[see4]

Sweet set-up man! Very interested in vertical grows. Are they any different than "stadium" grows?

Sub'ing.

 

[D.Gotti]

Thank you! Yes its the same basic idea as a stadium.

 

[Turtlehermit]

Yeah Gotti great strain choice. Btw I got this new Hps light. Its 250 watt Sunburst convertible Ballast hps light but the problem is the voltage is 120 or some shit and it wont light up when I plug it up. What do you think?

 

[crunkyeah]

Turtlehermit, do you live somewhere other than the US? 120v is what 98% of households in the US use for practically any appliance, tv, basically anything you can plug in. Most of the time the only exception is the house's washer/dryer area because dryers need 240v.

I would try googling converting to 240v if you're not in the US.

If that's not the problem.. maybe you got a fluke bulb or ballast?

 

[D.Gotti]

Thank you.

Sometimes you can get a bad bulb new in the box.

120v is normal for most electrical equipment. 240v is generally used for high wattage equipment to reduce amperage.

You should post a thread and tell us your issue and include a couple pictures.

My first question is....Do you have a matching ballast and bulb? are they both 250w?

Are they connections clean? Are the connections secure?

Some ballasts have two sockets for the power input cord, with a little cover, to cover one and expose the other.

One is for 120v, one is for 240v. Make sure you are using the correct power input socket. They should be marked.

Good luck!

 

[D.Gotti]

 

[rasputin71]

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Ill be using the General Organics line of nutrients, from General Hydroponics. It does not require PH adjustments.
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You should get a pH meter, IMO. I only got one a couple weeks and am kicking myself for not having one sooner.

I didnt use one for the first few months (got the drops/tube and thought my tap was ~7pH) and thought I had nute deficiencies, but I had pH lockout caused from whacky pH. All of my current plants in my flower box (and my entire first harvest), and the first 1 or 2 in veg, had to deal with bad pH and they show the signs of it. So far all of my new perpetual babies are looking good with properly pH'd water.

My tap water is ~8.5pH. So my seedlings and veg plants got very high pH water.

I use the full line of GO nutes with DiamondBlack and BioMarine and they bring my feeding pH in mid-flower down to the ~5.0pH.

I now mix my nutes, aerate them with an air-stone, then pH them to 6.5. In veg it usually requires pH down and in flower it requires pH up. In between feedings I flush them with plain water at 5.8pH (with about the amount of their pot volume), to 'make it rain', and finish flushing (25% of the pot volume) with any supplements (snowstorm, sweet, gravity, purple maxx) at 5.8pH. So far my new feed/rain schedule with a pH meter seems to be working, but it has only been a couple weeks since I got my meter. I wont know for sure until I harvest some of the current veg babies, that didnt have to deal with bad pH, in a couple of months.

 

[D.Gotti]

I have meters. My tap is 7.0 always. These nutrients are not supposed to be ph adjusted. They are meant to be used with dechlorinated tap water.

I used to run Advanced Nutrients Connoisseur Professional Line.

Im going for something more laid back.