For All Cap Ebb and Grow Users

[Tamorin]

Dont anyone buy that monster brain please. The pumps they give with it are too big to get the bottom of the brains water out and since thats the case it just keeps running that pump none stop. The float is too low and the 580 g.p.h. pump is way too high. Im just using the smaller brain and drilling into my own 5 gallon buckets. Using my own .5 inch grommets and hosing with the smaller works fine already did it.

 

[hellraizer30]

I've looked at your setup. You've done some nice upgrades to your system but I see one thing that you could do better on; your air pump is small for a 55 gallon res. Not just the capacity but the depth; I'm pretty sure the water pressure down at the bottom of that res is enough to cause your air pump to struggle. I keep 4 airstones in my large res attached to a 30watt pump; looks like a jacuzzi. Upgrade from the aquarium pump and I think you'll resolve your goo problem. I use bleach at .5-1ml per gallon if I see any problems. I'm an H2O2 skeptic, plus I have over 100 gallons of res capacity. Dosing regularly with H2O2 is pretty expensive at that volume. Fortunately, I don't get rot. And, no, bleach does not stunt my plants or poison my crop. It is used in commercial hydroponics constantly.

bleach at .5-1ML per gal il give that a shot, and I will upgrade the air pump tonite to a monster one with x4 air stones, bleach would be a way cheaper way to deal
with the slime. +rep shnkrmn

 

[hellraizer30]

H2O2 isnt needed if you have the proper amount of air pumps in your reservoir (1 watt per gallon). It doesnt do anything with respect to microbes or keeping things clean, it's just liquid air.

It's more useful, in my opinion, for the water that gets left behind in the buckets while draining, which gives the roots that extra o2 that are still touching some of the water. Some people raise buckets, but that's a great way to get the tips of roots to dry out rather than making a plant better..............

yah my thought was to raise the 02 to a point where microbes couldnt live but it seems Ive been just puting a bandaid on it.

 

[researchkitty]

Please dont add bleach to your reservoir. Bleach is bad for plants and for the nutrients in your reservoir. Use something like simple green or a citrus based cleaner, eh? In 1200 posts in this thread, not one talks about adding bleach to a reservoir.

Please show me where it is "used in commercial hydroponics constantly". If I'm wrong, hats off to ya for showing me something new.

 

[shnkrmn]

I'm not into arguing with you kitty. You jump on it all you want. I use bleach (rarely). I grow pot (quite successfully). You don't have to be such a know-it-all. When my plants die, or wilt, or turn black and smell like fresh laundry you can say I told you so. You'll be waiting a long time.

 

[researchkitty]

I'm not into arguing with you kitty. You jump on it all you want. I use bleach (rarely). I grow pot (quite successfully). You don't have to be such a know-it-all. When my plants die, or wilt, or turn black and smell like fresh laundry you can say I told you so. You'll be waiting a long time.

I dont disagree to start drama............. I disagree when I think its wrong and/or bad. PLEASE though, rather than just spiting back that you grow successfully, spit back with a link to where its used commercially all the time as you stated......... I've never seen a hydro shop sell bleach and they sell everything possible! I'd *love* to be proven wrong, because then I learned something. Happens ALL the time!

 

[shnkrmn]

Down the road from me. Not all evidence is on the web and I'm not in the business of proving you wrong with a link. What's the basis of your disapprobation? Heard it was bad? Read it somewhere? Tried it? Put the research hat on, kitty.

If I 'spit back', it's because I stated in my original post that I use it, my plants tolerate it well, and I DON'T get pathogens. Solid personal experience. All respect to you, Kitty. You are a fine grower, passionate about what you believe in and a wee bit too certain of yourself. But there's more than one way to skin a cat (with apologies).

I'm not in hydro shops much, I'm surprised they don't have it at 40/gallon with a fancy name and no ingredient label.

 

[researchkitty]

Down the road from me. Not all evidence is on the web and I'm not in the business of proving you wrong with a link. What's the basis of your disapprobation? Heard it was bad? Read it somewhere? Tried it? Put the research hat on, kitty.

If I 'spit back', it's because I stated in my original post that I use it, my plants tolerate it well, and I DON'T get pathogens. Solid personal experience. All respect to you, Kitty. You are a fine grower, passionate about what you believe in and a wee bit too certain of yourself. But there's more than one way to skin a cat (with apologies).

I'm not in hydro shops much, I'm surprised they don't have it at 40/gallon with a fancy name and no ingredient label.

So basically, this method of using bleach is something that's so secretive that it isnt even on the Internet or Hydro stores?

Ok.

 

[hellraizer30]

I searched for a hour for info on it with no luck, But today I bumped into a freind and he said he has used it at a very small amount to cure
problems in the res. I asked him to show me somekind of website or reading material to prove/convice me its safe to use it, he replys a
old buddy of his told him. so all the info on it is third party with claims that its safe in very small amounts. I will keep searching for info
on the net/books/magazine to back up the claims and I will post the info as soon as I get it

 

[shnkrmn]

So basically, this method of using bleach is something that's so secretive that it isnt even on the Internet or Hydro stores?

Ok.

Your little sarcastic winky just proves what I said about you; check your ego. girl. I tried to be nice but you just like being a little e-warrior too much. I might point out to you that I have not advised anyone to do anything. I have only said what I do. Apparently, in this thread which you didn't start but seem to think you own, this is against Kittie's rules. Fine. I'm not going away. I was in this thread way before you, and I'll be here after you are gone.

Humble kitty, my ass.

It certainly won't be a secret for long if we have an e-fight about it.

 

[shnkrmn]

https://www.rollitup.org/advanced-marijuana-cultivation/286022-killing-root-rot-3.html

Since you like links.

 

[shnkrmn]

Oh, and here's your over-priced hydro store product. 1/2 the chlorine of Clorox, but ten times the price.

Flairform Pythoff. Google it yourself.

 

[shnkrmn]

Oh what the heck, I'll make that easy for you too.

http://www.flairform.com/Products/pythoff.htm

 

[mrduke]

boy i love a good Kat fight !!!!


sorry i couldn't resist LOL

 

[researchkitty]

Oh what the heck, I'll make that easy for you too.

http://www.flairform.com/Products/pythoff.htm

No, you continue to simply insult me (for being right) and provide MORE bad information.

"Note, Pythoff is not compatible with hydrogen peroxide or beneficial bacteria. As with all products it is advisable to test compatibility prior to routine usage."

*cough*

BLEACH is sodium hypochlorite

PYTHOFF is monochloramine.

Anyhow, back to you telling me how I'm an idiot because I called you out (rightfully) on using bleach in hydroponics.

YOU DONT USE BLEACH IN HYDROPONICS WITH LIVE PLANTS.

Next time you feel the need to reply, please, research your information first and type something out politely. Or at least use google!

http://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1SNNT_enUS404&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q=bleach+in+hydroponics

Notice nobody tells you to add it to the reservoirs. They only use bleach to CLEAN the buckets out when a cycle is over.

Do you have anything else rude or inaccurate to state here? I'll take an apology ANY time.

 

[shnkrmn]

YOU want an apology from me? What if you don't get it? Your skin is too thin. Using upper case and exclamation points does not lend authority to what you type.

I did not call you an idiot at any time. Nor would I. As I said, I respect you. I'm just not hypnotized by your underpants like the boys who follow your grow (hats off on your 1st harvest though; props must be given)..

Once again, I stand by my methods. I don't care to argue. I grow marijuana, and this is how I do. Anyone who wants to know how to successfully use BLEACH in your reservoir to control pathogens is welcome to discuss it with me in my thread where I have plenty of

 

[researchkitty]

YOU want an apology from me? What if you don't get it? Your skin is too thin. Using upper case and exclamation points does not lend authority to what you type.

I did not call you an idiot at any time. Nor would I. As I said, I respect you. I'm just not hypnotized by your underpants like the boys who follow your grow (hats off on your 1st harvest though; props must be given)..

Once again, I stand by my methods. I don't care to argue. I grow marijuana, and this is how I do. Anyone who wants to know how to successfully use BLEACH in your reservoir to control pathogens is welcome to discuss it with me in my thread where I have plenty of

You wrote three lines of text that meant nothing and did nothing to help make your case. If I'm wrong (check my previous posts!) then I LOVE it because I learn something. There's a ton of wrong info on RIU. Its our jobs as posters and growers to discern what is fact and what is fiction.

You've made a dozen posts here now with nothing more than a link to a product that isnt bleach and no data anywhere anyhow on using it other than for cleaning buckets out after they are dirty.

So please, dont divert people to "your thread", divert people to the correct information, not more blah blah blah. I do respect everyone here, just post information that has value, and if it turns out its bad information, learn and move on. That's how I learned to grow, trial and error and forums.

 

[shnkrmn]

Kittie, you never read the thread I linked to. I'm not here to argue. You could go to 'my thread' and learn about it there yourself. Or you could leave an uppercase obscene insult rep on my page. like you just did. You are really, really unhinged. Your idea of respect is warped. and you are way too young to be so rigid. I thought Canadians were fairly mellow people, but that's the danger of generalizations I guess.

Yes, we learned to grow in similar fashion. I just use BLEACH

 

[researchkitty]

We're never melllow

 

[shnkrmn]

lol.

Damn. It's hard to stay mad at the underpants. I should be old enough to resist.