1st Grow - 25 Plants - HELP PLEASE! Lighting Question – Optimal Yield

[hellraizer30]

if it where my 12x12 room this is what i would do i would do a full sog grow with 4 4x4 flood and drain hydro trays and do 2 1000's on light rails the trays would be end to end making basically a 4x8 tray out of 2 4x4's on ether side of the room leaving a good 4 foot walkway between the trays light rails skimming over each 2 trays with a 1000w bulb on each side i would go all perpetual 2 week harvesting so first tray is freshly rooted clones to two weeks second tray 2 to 4 weeks third tray 4 to 6 weeks and final tray 6 to harvest

hydro would be sick but as a first timmer Id go soil total 4 1000s 6 plants every light through in the 1 plant as a mother somewhere under a t5 tube.
and stay soil, you need to learn the basics first and this is huge already. your going to need vented shields and a bad ass scrubber!!! to vent the heat out, and some sort
of intake pulling cool air in. your going to need a dehumidifier for sure, to control your RH. start with a simple nute program, as for the soil I would use sunshine #4. and get
x2 12 in air king fans, and a 55 gal res tank to mix water and nutes up, rig a pump and a line with a watering wond to make watering simple. some sort of PH test kit and
a blue labs ppm pen to insure you dont burnem. thats all I can think off right off as im kinda stoned if you get this going +rep
but if not +rep for the thought.

 

[drgreentm]

hydro would be sick but as a first timmer Id go 1 1000 per every 4x4 area total 4 1000s 6 plants every light through in the 1 plant as a mother somewhere under a t5 tube.
and stay soil, you need to learn the basics first and this is huge already. your going to need vented shields and a bad ass scrubber!!! to vent the heat out, and some sort
of intake pulling cool air in. your going to need a dehumidifier for sure, to control your RH. start with a simple nute program, as for the soil I would use sunshine #4. and get
x2 12 in air king fans, and a 55 gal res tank to mix water and nutes up, rig a pump and a line with a watering wond to make watering simple. some sort of PH test kit and
a blue labs ppm pen to insure you dont burnem. thats all I can think off right off as im kinda stoned

haha ya man i agree with you 100% keep it simple is the way to go for the first round this is actually a op i am building in the new home soon just thought i would throw it out there lol.

 

[hellraizer30]

wish I could step up to 1000 but for now 600s are working. how many you going to get on one of those 4x4 tray?

 

[JLewbowski]

if it where my 12x12 room this is what i would do i would do a full sog grow with 4 4x4 flood and drain hydro trays and do 2 1000's on light rails the trays would be end to end making basically a 4x8 tray out of 2 4x4's on ether side of the room leaving a good 4 foot walkway between the trays light rails skimming over each 2 trays with a 1000w bulb on each side i would go all perpetual 2 week harvesting so first tray is freshly rooted clones to two weeks second tray 2 to 4 weeks third tray 4 to 6 weeks and final tray 6 to harvest 64 plants per tray 2lbs per 2 weeks but if you are trying to keep plant counts low prably wouldn't work for you just my idea lol.

Niiiice! I like the set-up...but yeah need to keep the plant count at 25 to avoid a federal "pound me in the ass" prison. I've been reading the SOG vs fewer bigger plants debate and it seems like the yeilds come out equal in most people's opinion. Although SOG seems like the gift that keeps on giving...whereas fewer-bigger seems like one big harvest then start all over. Am I understanding this right? To me it seems like sea of green is more advanced & multitasking vs fewer bigger plants might be less involved, easier to manage - more suited to a newbie like me. What do you think?

 

[JLewbowski]

hydro would be sick but as a first timmer Id go soil total 4 1000s 6 plants every light through in the 1 plant as a mother somewhere under a t5 tube.
and stay soil, you need to learn the basics first and this is huge already. your going to need vented shields and a bad ass scrubber!!! to vent the heat out, and some sort
of intake pulling cool air in. your going to need a dehumidifier for sure, to control your RH. start with a simple nute program, as for the soil I would use sunshine #4. and get
x2 12 in air king fans, and a 55 gal res tank to mix water and nutes up, rig a pump and a line with a watering wond to make watering simple. some sort of PH test kit and
a blue labs ppm pen to insure you dont burnem. thats all I can think off right off as im kinda stoned if you get this going +rep
but if not +rep for the thought.

Thanks - this is good info/advise. Several few things here I hadn't thought of. I'm definitely gonna get this going - already committed and saved for it...just a question of the best way to set this up... getting a lot of good feedback. What's your opinion of light movers vs stationary? Seems like if I don't lose much yield, I could cut down on the lamps needed, plus the plants would get light from all angles, not just top down.

 

[drgreentm]

Niiiice! I like the set-up...but yeah need to keep the plant count at 25 to avoid a federal "pound me in the ass" prison. I've been reading the SOG vs fewer bigger plants debate and it seems like the yeilds come out equal in most people's opinion. Although SOG seems like the gift that keeps on giving...whereas fewer-bigger seems like one big harvest then start all over. Am I understanding this right? To me it seems like sea of green is more advanced & multitasking vs fewer bigger plants might be less involved, easier to manage - more suited to a newbie like me. What do you think?

yup you got it there is definitely always something to be done in sog but it sure is the gift that keeps on giving lol but sure your grow will go just fine whatever you choose at least your not trying to skimp on stuff thats good.

 

[drgreentm]

wish I could step up to 1000 but for now 600s are working.

how is your grow going last i checked your ladies where looking great

how many you going to get on one of those 4x4 tray?

64 of them in each tray 256 total good thing is in my state there is no plant count just cant be caught with over 100 lbs of rooted plant matter so half my room wont weigh jack anyway just rooted clones dont weight but a couple grams at most.

 

[MrStickyScissors]

7 plants per table seems to be about right for me.with the light movers I would makeyour table a little bigger and a a extra row of 3 per table. I would aim for 2 and a half ounce to 3 per plant. the room with the 4 one thousands is 12x 12. that setup works nice but I would like to put them in a scquare with a little walk way through the midle.