Bulk Mono Tek Pictorial

[choempi]

I am about to make some lc's for the first time today and have been looking over this tek all morning.

I have a question about innoculating your wbs jars. I see you have 3 holes and use 1ml per jar. Are you injecting in all 3 or are the 2 extra holes providing better air exchange? I'm used to only using one hole for wbs and with the jar being filled only 3/4 you should be able put spore solution everywhere with just one hole right?

I only use the center hole and rotate the needle to spray around the whole jar, I then use micropore tape to seal the injection hole. I tried many hole configurations and found at least 2 works better for GE.

 

[weasels911]

I only use the center hole and rotate the needle to spray around the whole jar, I then use micropore tape to seal the injection hole. I tried many hole configurations and found at least 2 works better for GE.

Do you microspore the holes you didn't use to inoculate or just the one? Also do I need to keep lc's in the dark like jars?

 

[choempi]

Do you microspore the holes you didn't use to inoculate or just the one? Also do I need to keep lc's in the dark like jars?

I cover wbs jars with a piece of tyvec and only use micropore tape to seal innoc holes from needle.

Jars and lcs do not need dark, just a nice temp below 82* and above 72* for best growth. The dark thing is an old belief, light is not even as a big trigger for pinning subs as was once thought.

 

[weasels911]

Ok thanks very helpful.
My lids are setup a little different. I have one hole middle that is a little bigger, then fill it with polyfill and use tyvek filter. I might try this way in the future though if I get some new lids.

 

[Sgt. Floyd]

I may have missed this but.....

Do you put anything in your lc jars to help break up the mycelium when shaken?

 

[choempi]

I may have missed this but.....

Do you put anything in your lc jars to help break up the mycelium when shaken?

No, all I do is pull up a bunch into the syringe then shoot it back into the jar a few times, that breaks it up .

 

[weasels911]

Do you shake lc at all? after adding karo? After adding spores? Or colonization?

 

[choempi]

Do you shake lc at all? after adding karo? After adding spores? Or colonization?

I do not, but if you really want to read from a real LC master, go to the shroomery and search username Agar, he uses a magnetic mixing plate like 4 times a day on his LCs, and he has alot of good info on many aspects and teks for mush.

I just PC, inject, and put it away for a couple weeks. Karo and water is the simplest LC, but there are many othe mixes peeps use that may work faster. I am in no hurry and like things simple.

 

[weasels911]

I do not, but if you really want to read from a real LC master, go to the shroomery and search username Agar, he uses a magnetic mixing plate like 4 times a day on his LCs, and he has alot of good info on many aspects and teks for mush.

I just PC, inject, and put it away for a couple weeks. Karo and water is the simplest LC, but there are many othe mixes peeps use that may work faster. I am in no hurry and like things simple.

Yea I'm going to use honey and was worried if it should be stuck together in the jar or evenly distributed. I think pressure cooking it is going to get it spread without having to shake it. Then just inject and wait.

 

[DarthD3vl]

I use a marble in my lcs, so i can shake and break up the mycelium if i want, just depends on how well the lc is working, its normally not needed though

 

[choempi]

I use a marble in my lcs, so i can shake and break up the mycelium if i want, just depends on how well the lc is working, its normally not needed though

some peeps also use broken glass and pebbles, I just let the syringe do it.

 

[Sgt. Floyd]

Thanks fellas!

Edit: I got to spread the love before I can +rep you again choempi.

 

[choempi]

Well I had to make a drastic decision. The first mono fruited a bit, but nothing like it should, and the temps are the only variable. I usually fruit at between 75*-80*, but this whole grow from the jars to sub have been at an average of like 68* and as low as 65* for long periods. I knew it would be slower, but didn't think it would hamper it as much as it has. I guess it has taken overall an additional 2 weeks to fruit, but if that was all that would be acceptable. Problem the temps have seemed to sap the vigor and production drastically. So, I picked and dried the fruit (31g dry) and did some construction, which I really would not have done, but have been forced to. I also just put the tub to soak for the next 12 or 24 hours. My room is now a toasty 78*-80*. More to be revealed...

 

[justparanoid]

If my math is correct this needs like 12 pounds of poo. I have two pounds fluffed up and it takes up a good amount of space. this is a good sized turkey pan, one of those disposable ones with a plastic clear cover.

How far up the bucket does the horsepoo go? is the bucket almost full? its hard to see in the picture. sorry im just trying to get this right.

JP

 

[choempi]

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If my math is correct this needs like 12 pounds of poo. I have two pounds fluffed up and it takes up a good amount of space. this is a good sized turkey pan, one of those disposable ones with a plastic clear cover.

How far up the bucket does the horsepoo go? is the bucket almost full? its hard to see in the picture. sorry im just trying to get this right.

JP

Just measure your poo with dry measure, then you know. The full tub takes 7 quarts.

 

[justparanoid]

Oh ok great, i'll measure it out and see how much i have and break up how ever much i need.

On the coir, is a standard bag enough? mine doesnt list grams, just 1/3 of a yard if i remember correctly.

Thanks so much for the answers, im close to making my own batch and im getting excited.

JP

 

[choempi]

Oh ok great, i'll measure it out and see how much i have and break up how ever much i need.

On the coir, is a standard bag enough? mine doesnt list grams, just 1/3 of a yard if i remember correctly.

Thanks so much for the answers, im close to making my own batch and im getting excited.

JP

Standard brick is about 700g, should be weighed out to 400g for a tub, but if no scale then a bit more then half a brick.

 

[suprablaski]

just to throw in on the LC convo from a few pages ago, i actually use karo and honey and get some damn fast results though im also normally using a LC to inoculate them with. i just add the water to the level i want, then 1/2 tsp of karo and 1/2 tsp of honey. my first run on LC i did 6 jars from spores and did diff mixes of karo and honey and some just karo and honey jars, the even mix has worked best for me so far. hope it helps someone

 

[choempi]

just to throw in on the LC convo from a few pages ago, i actually use karo and honey and get some damn fast results though im also normally using a LC to inoculate them with. i just add the water to the level i want, then 1/2 tsp of karo and 1/2 tsp of honey. my first run on LC i did 6 jars from spores and did diff mixes of karo and honey and some just karo and honey jars, the even mix has worked best for me so far. hope it helps someone

I just use the karo, but many use honey. Supposedly the best mix has light malt extract, though many swear by dextrose.

I have so much LC I will probably throw out a bunch soon, as I am going to only use my clone LCs for now on, and that means like 5 quarts of fully developed LCs down the drain. Wish I could give it away, but that's not possibleof course.

 

[justparanoid]

So prints are cool to trade just not LC's?

JP