who do you think has the best enzyme concentrate?

mr. green thumb 01

mr. green thumb 01

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nickrbk said:
Im all about the Sensizyme my friend. I was hit hard once with root rot and started using Hygrozyme after having to pitch a plant. the Hygrozyme fixed the plants with minor root rot and really helped out the roots once they were ready. After that bottle I switched to Sensizime BC im already on all AN products. I found it bosted up my root production even more then the Hygorzyme and belive it or not im pretty sure it was cheeper. Def would not be lacking this in my garden.
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Same thing happened to me and the enzymes really helped out. Between them and the white shark now I have only lush white abundant roots and they are constantly developing new growth. I never see dead roots or root rot anymore.

I just read in my sunlight supply mag that prozyme is made up of over 80 different enzymes! holy crap no wonder its more $. It also says enzymes are biological catalysts derived from living organisms. Catalysts speed up NATURAL OCCURRING chemical reactions. (which means YES Homebrewer you dont necessarily need them.) The enzynes break down dead roots, starches, and carbohydrates and make them readily available to plants.

The stuff must be good or they wouldn't mass produce it for commercial use. I mean it does come in up to 5gals for 660.00!!
 
jointchief

jointchief

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I've done a lot of experiments with DWC, aero, and coco with enyzmes + beneficial bacteria. What I've found is the prozyme seems to work the best, followed by hygrozyme. If your plants roots are healthy and white, theres really no need for the enzymes. However, I've run into root rot scenarious in all different kinds of setups (aero, dwc, coco, ebb and flow, hydroton, etc.) and when NOTHING seems to get rid of it (sometimes underwatering will help stop root rot) I resort to dosing the res with h202 + enyzmes. Obviously if you are using beneficial bacteria this will destroy the colony, however if the roots are rotting then obviously they aren't doing their job too well anyways. I've seen what h202 and the enzyme mix can do, I've brought back root systems completely rotted and dead (and infested with root knat larvae). Like I said before, if your plants are healthy, you don't really need to use the stuff (especially since its $). However in light doses I believe it probably makes for good preventative maintenance (keeps things healthy, and dissolves dead roots, preventing possible root rot infections). IMHO this stuff works so well that everyone should keep a gallon on their shelf, just in case your plants just start dying for no reason...it has saved me countless of very important plants that would have not made it otherwise. I should also mention that just dosing with h202 works well also, but the dead root tissue remains, and once the dosing stops, the plant begins to die immediately (from infection of the dead root mass). Constant dosing with just h202 can also rejeuvanate a plant (I've done this before as well) but it takes much longer. Keep those roots blinging white! :-P
 
Vento

Vento

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Hi ya Mr Green :)

My Experience with enzymes so far has been with Cannazyme , I must say , It did improve my last crop ... but i think it was a combo of things rather than just the use of the cannazyme .

But i had to stop by and tell you the deal i got on a 4 ltr bottle of Hygrozyme !

I'm friends with my hydro shop owners and have been helping them out here and there , They ordered a shipment of 250 ml bottles and was sent 4 ltr bottles by mistake .... but they charged them for the 250ml bottles ... :)

4ltr is around 145 ... i got it for 30 :) ... Win !!

How good is it ? .... i'm not sure yet , But i will be using it with my next grow for sure :)

Peace :)
 
mr. green thumb 01

mr. green thumb 01

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jointchief said:
I've done a lot of experiments with DWC, aero, and coco with enyzmes + beneficial bacteria. What I've found is the prozyme seems to work the best, followed by hygrozyme. If your plants roots are healthy and white, theres really no need for the enzymes. However, I've run into root rot scenarious in all different kinds of setups (aero, dwc, coco, ebb and flow, hydroton, etc.) and when NOTHING seems to get rid of it (sometimes underwatering will help stop root rot) I resort to dosing the res with h202 + enyzmes. Obviously if you are using beneficial bacteria this will destroy the colony, however if the roots are rotting then obviously they aren't doing their job too well anyways. I've seen what h202 and the enzyme mix can do, I've brought back root systems completely rotted and dead (and infested with root knat larvae). Like I said before, if your plants are healthy, you don't really need to use the stuff (especially since its $). However in light doses I believe it probably makes for good preventative maintenance (keeps things healthy, and dissolves dead roots, preventing possible root rot infections). IMHO this stuff works so well that everyone should keep a gallon on their shelf, just in case your plants just start dying for no reason...it has saved me countless of very important plants that would have not made it otherwise. I should also mention that just dosing with h202 works well also, but the dead root tissue remains, and once the dosing stops, the plant begins to die immediately (from infection of the dead root mass). Constant dosing with just h202 can also rejeuvanate a plant (I've done this before as well) but it takes much longer. Keep those roots blinging white! :-P
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Agreed. But I have never used enzymes w/ h2o2 because I thought the h2o2 would kill enzymes. I dunno but when I had root problems I used a flushing agent first with h2o2 in it for a few days then changed the tank to water enzymes and beneficials w/ very very small amount of nutes and yea it brought them back. Never tryed h2o2 w/ the enzymes tho...? its safe ?
 
jointchief

jointchief

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Hydrogen peroxide does not "kill" the enzymes. Enzymes aren't alive to begin with. What the h202 will kill, are ALL biological agents in your media and reservoir (root rot/pythium, beneficial organisms, root knat larvae, etc.). Also, LIVE ROOT tissue will be oxidized by the h202 and die, this is why it is important to never directly apply h202 directly to the medium. You should always apply it to the reservoir, let it wait for at least 30 - 60 minutes, then apply it to the plants medium. This way you can minimize live root tissue being burned by the h202. I use concentrated 30% hydrogen peroxide, and you don't have to use much, I use about 5-10 ml per gallon. Keep in mind, you can use 100 ml per gallon if desired, but YOU CANNOT APPLY it directly to the plant medium, you use it to sterilize the reservoir, and also to add oxygen content (and apply it to the medium only after an appropriate waiting period). If you apply a concentrated dose of h202 directly to the plants (without waiting for it to convert to oxygen) live root tissue will oxidized (burned) along with all the other micro organisms. Using the enzymes + h202 supplementation is a great way to eradicate your pesky root knat infestation. The h202 sterilizes the root rot, and the enyzmes dissolve the very food the knats eat (dead root tissue)! This combination is one of the best kept secrets in serious hydro growing. Like I said before, its not necessary to always use the enzymes, but if you have sick plants, you have dead or dying roots, and they need to be dealt with one way or another and this is that way.
 
hugetom80s

hugetom80s

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Strictly speaking H2O2 doesn't kill things, it's the O2 it releases that does. Each molecule of H2O2 releases one oxygen atom because it's not stable with both of them. That results in a molecule of water and a free oxygen atom that combines with another free atom to make O2 or oxygen gas. A certain amount of that can stay dissolved in the water, and anything over that bubbles out as a gas (which is why we see hydrogen peroxide bubble up when it reacts with something.)

Also, oxygen doesn't just straight-up kill stuff. It's all about the amount. Too much O2 will kill people. Not enough will kill us too. Same goes for the micro-herd. In theory you could dial up your dissolved O2 to kill just the stuff that has a lower tolerance, but that's way beyond what the average home grower is gonna want to try to mess with.

All that said, you can put me down as another Sensizym user. It's awesome.
 
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dlively11

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Bumping an old thread. I have read several threads about using pond enzymes. $20 treats 8000 gallons and does the same thing. Its for ponds with fish in it so its not like it is hazardous or anything. Pond-zyme with barley Cheap insurance if you ask me. I laready use H202 every res change (once a week). It does contain 5 types of bacteria , wouldnt the H202 kill the bacteria ?
 
mr. green thumb 01

mr. green thumb 01

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To answer my own ? for those searching the net...after a couple yrs and trying most of the hobbyist enzyme products. I like the house & garden enzyme its called mulit zen. Its very stable. With others I noticed chunks or floateys over time and I contacted the manufacture and they said it would be fine to use but let me tell you in my dwc it was not fine at all. I have used h&g multizen and bud xl and have been happy with both. I have yet to try obne of their base's, but its only a matter of time...
 
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jpill

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I use HG's Roots excel as a hormonal additive. clones really love it after they've rooted.

I'm also using compost tea's on the regular AnD as a "first water" in soil as i'm transplanting.

I've never tried Enzymes, just brewed up some tea !
 
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