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HoLE

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Yeah Hole mason crews ive worked in weve lived together shared rent had it made man. Masons make a decent wage when I was traveling i split a few nice beach houses with 4-5 dudes had a fucking blast man. Party freaking central after work of course lol.. The good ole days haha
I hear that 1bad,,,when I was younger there were three of us renting a townhouse,,all worked together,,,,what a party house,,,,24-7,,,,those were the days
 

durbanmistyman

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Hmm thats a tough one Durban Misty man. Have you ever checked the ph of your water. To high or too low ph can lock out nutes. It looks to me that the plant is sucking itself dry of the nutrient it needs from the leaves. Could be lockout Just my 2 cents
yea thinking im going to flush with 5 gal of water w/ calmag per plant and then go from there
 

Sytha

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I suggest getting a ppm metre asap. From what i've heard WW's like a light feed...around 1100ppm though you can go upto 1300. I've a couple of WW's from greenhouse in at the moment that are taking nutes at 1300 quite well. If you flush the girls for a few days then start again with the right nute strenght and ph they should bounce back. Like wat was said..it's either a iron defiency or nute burn imo.
 

ENDLSCYCLE

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I'm confused...I don't know if you across the pond are having the same problem with the youth of today, but what the fuck is wrong with people these days...With my first born being a daughter that will be here soon I am scared that she and the teen society is in trouble....Why are we portraying teen pregnancy as a good thing?? With t.v. shows like 16 and pregnant, and teen mom???...and the fuckt up part is the shows are directed towards little girls around the age of 12-16...What has happened...WTF...I should of made a boy, but that wasn't up to me!!!Well...kinda!!!
 

Outdoorindica

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I suggest getting a ppm metre asap. From what i've heard WW's like a light feed...around 1100ppm though you can go upto 1300. I've a couple of WW's from greenhouse in at the moment that are taking nutes at 1300 quite well. If you flush the girls for a few days then start again with the right nute strenght and ph they should bounce back. Like wat was said..it's either a iron defiency or nute burn imo.
You consider 1100 ppm a light feed? I consider 300-500 a light feed, and 500-700 in the middle, anything above that is high for me. I fed with a ppm of 800 yesterday, and I thought I might be giving too much. I always look at things like this, if Im feeding at 700 ppm, and the plants are not showing any deficiencies, then there is no reason to feed any higher. The genetics of the plant will determine bud size as long as the environment is right and the plant is healthy. Needless to say I have never had nute burn, which I think is a good thing, my plants dont have something extra to recover from. I think some people feed too high in general and end up locking out nutrients from their plant because of this, which in turn creates a need to flush several times during the grow, which is not necessary if your only feeding what your plant can take up and no more. Anyway, a theory of mine, I don't have to break the 1000 mark to get big and frosty nugs. I think its mostly a waste of nutrients, and that stuff is expensive. I hope Im not just holding myself back, but I think my plants are healthy, and they are frosty as fuck, nice and green, and bud sites all over. Not knocking your info that you gave. But maybe the widow is a light feeder, if she is I would give her a lot less than 1100 ppm. More like around 700 and see how she goes from there.
 

durbanmistyman

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I suggest getting a ppm metre asap. From what i've heard WW's like a light feed...around 1100ppm though you can go upto 1300. I've a couple of WW's from greenhouse in at the moment that are taking nutes at 1300 quite well. If you flush the girls for a few days then start again with the right nute strenght and ph they should bounce back. Like wat was said..it's either a iron defiency or nute burn imo.
i had someone taking care of them when i was goin the were gettingg watered every other day and getting nuts at light strength every other watering do you think they weren't getting enough iron or that it got locked out.
 

Outdoorindica

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I'm confused...I don't know if you across the pond are having the same problem with the youth of today, but what the fuck is wrong with people these days...With my first born being a daughter that will be here soon I am scared that she and the teen society is in trouble....Why are we portraying teen pregnancy as a good thing?? With t.v. shows like 16 and pregnant, and teen mom???...and the fuckt up part is the shows are directed towards little girls around the age of 12-16...What has happened...WTF...I should of made a boy, but that wasn't up to me!!!Well...kinda!!!
I had my son when I was 16, still have my son even though his piece of shit mom left over 2 years ago and hasn't seen him since. Teen parents are not all bad, I worked 12-16 hours a day in the boat yard when my son was born and did a maintenance job up until I started having my health issues. Its up to the person to not let it ruin their lives, and continue to do something with their self while taking care of a child, its hard, but doable. I dont recommend having a child at 16 though, but its not the end of the world. I was having a conversation with my dad the other day about it being crazy how people glorify having 14 kids, or kids when your 14. Either way, people are fucking nuts.
 

bassman999

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You consider 1100 ppm a light feed? I consider 300-500 a light feed, and 500-700 in the middle, anything above that is high for me. I fed with a ppm of 800 yesterday, and I thought I might be giving too much. I always look at things like this, if Im feeding at 700 ppm, and the plants are not showing any deficiencies, then there is no reason to feed any higher. The genetics of the plant will determine bud size as long as the environment is right and the plant is healthy. Needless to say I have never had nute burn, which I think is a good thing, my plants dont have something extra to recover from. I think some people feed too high in general and end up locking out nutrients from their plant because of this, which in turn creates a need to flush several times during the grow, which is not necessary if your only feeding what your plant can take up and no more. Anyway, a theory of mine, I don't have to break the 1000 mark to get big and frosty nugs. I think its mostly a waste of nutrients, and that stuff is expensive. I hope Im not just holding myself back, but I think my plants are healthy, and they are frosty as fuck, nice and green, and bud sites all over. Not knocking your info that you gave. But maybe the widow is a light feeder, if she is I would give her a lot less than 1100 ppm. More like around 700 and see how she goes from there.
The guy I got my 1st clones from grows GREAT weed! He told me , and does himself use around or just over half the recommended amounts on the bottles of nutes. Sometimes more isnt really better.
 

Outdoorindica

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The guy I got my 1st clones from grows GREAT weed! He told me , and does himself use around or just over half the recommended amounts on the bottles of nutes. Sometimes more isnt really better.
Less is more, thats my theory and for the time being, Im sticking to it. I don't go by the bottle I use my ppm meter to determine how much of each nutrient I need, Tiger Bloom makes up about 80% of my ppm and Big Bloom the other 20% in flowering, the Bud Candy doesn't raise the ppm for some reason. That and the plants let me know what they need, learn to read the leaves and you don't need any meters. Now that I have used a ppm meter for a while I dont think I would need one. And I have phd my water the same way for a while now, I haven't tested the ph in forever. The plants are happy, and not showing any ph or nute issues.
 

bassman999

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Less is more, thats my theory and for the time being, Im sticking to it. I don't go by the bottle I use my ppm meter to determine how much of each nutrient I need, Tiger Bloom makes up about 80% of my ppm and Big Bloom the other 20% in flowering, the Bud Candy doesn't raise the ppm for some reason. That and the plants let me know what they need, learn to read the leaves and you don't need any meters. Now that I have used a ppm meter for a while I dont think I would need one. And I have phd my water the same way for a while now, I haven't tested the ph in forever. The plants are happy, and not showing any ph or nute issues.
A different friend of mine said the same thing...that he used ppm meter for a while and then quit as he knew what to do now...
 

Outdoorindica

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Just took a peek at the LED growers UNITE thread, and then had a laugh. The ones that are doing half way decent all have cfls in their setup as well and they talk like its the LEDs doing all of the goodness. Thats just inexperience talking. The one guy says, "I had to add a single cfl to my setup to help cover the rest of the area." Its a 150-200 watt cfl for growing, which makes up about a third of his wattage, and I bet if he shut of his ufos, he would find its doing about 80% of his flowering for his plants. LEDs fucking suck for flowering cannabis plants. Anyway it was worth a good laugh.
 

durbanmistyman

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Less is more, thats my theory and for the time being, Im sticking to it. I don't go by the bottle I use my ppm meter to determine how much of each nutrient I need, Tiger Bloom makes up about 80% of my ppm and Big Bloom the other 20% in flowering, the Bud Candy doesn't raise the ppm for some reason. That and the plants let me know what they need, learn to read the leaves and you don't need any meters. Now that I have used a ppm meter for a while I dont think I would need one. And I have phd my water the same way for a while now, I haven't tested the ph in forever. The plants are happy, and not showing any ph or nute issues.
The guy I got my 1st clones from grows GREAT weed! He told me , and does himself use around or just over half the recommended amounts on the bottles of nutes. Sometimes more isnt really better.
yea i have always feed as little as possible the recommended feedings are pretty light 2 tsp thats rite teaspoons, this is the first time i have use tsp in organics usually tbsp and by the way this isn't my first run i have had success indoor with ANs iguana juice and my own organic supplements and lots, and outdoor with varies organic teas. but with my them having been taken care of for 25 days by another person even tho i gave them ranges to stay within i think they may have been overwatered and over nutted but the others still have over all good health and are growing not to stunted.

first day of flower today heres a freshly plucked leaf from my ghs bubbakush

in next post is pic
 

bassman999

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Just took a peek at the LED growers UNITE thread, and then had a laugh. The ones that are doing half way decent all have cfls in their setup as well and they talk like its the LEDs doing all of the goodness. Thats just inexperience talking. The one guy says, "I had to add a single cfl to my setup to help cover the rest of the area." Its a 150-200 watt cfl for growing, which makes up about a third of his wattage, and I bet if he shut of his ufos, he would find its doing about 80% of his flowering for his plants. LEDs fucking suck for flowering cannabis plants. Anyway it was worth a good laugh.
I was wondering about that, and never thought it was worth the expense to experiment. I figure if it worked well most ppl would use them.
 

durbanmistyman

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Just took a peek at the LED growers UNITE thread, and then had a laugh. The ones that are doing half way decent all have cfls in their setup as well and they talk like its the LEDs doing all of the goodness. Thats just inexperience talking. The one guy says, "I had to add a single cfl to my setup to help cover the rest of the area." Its a 150-200 watt cfl for growing, which makes up about a third of his wattage, and I bet if he shut of his ufos, he would find its doing about 80% of his flowering for his plants. LEDs fucking suck for flowering cannabis plants. Anyway it was worth a good laugh.
yea its funny i had a buddy do the same thing told him leds were shit and not to buy it and he did and it fail on him after that i talked him into returning it and sin his credit to get a small 250 lumatek ballast. and now he's producing some decent buds in a small stealth tent setup.
 

Outdoorindica

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freshly plucked leaf from my ghs bubbakush
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If I can take anything from that picture that is good, I would say that Im glad to see that GHS Bubba has that Kushy leaf structure to it, elongated yet still fat leaves. I have 2 seeds, am about to give one away to a friend for his next run, and might give the other away to someone else for their outdoor grow, either way I will get to try both if they are successful so I don't mind handing over good genetics.
 

durbanmistyman

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i had two bubbakush seeds one didn't sprout the only seed of the nine ie germed that didn't take it cracked and stopped this one is the most robust plants i have of all four strains- 2 kingskush(ghs), 2 power kush (dinafem) which is pretty nice sativa leaves with indice bush like structure and short, 3 WW (g13) which are having the most trouble with the deficiency. day one of flower today
 
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