Organics in hydro

hydro'rock

hydro'rock

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this thead is for everyone that want to grow organic in hydro. i trying it my self at this time, i will update results. post your exp using organic nute in hydro.

im using,

iguana juice
rhizotonic
molases
 
Chronic Connoisseur

Chronic Connoisseur

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i somtimes use organics on one of my hydro pots.

i use super tea in the seedling process.

then banana manna and somtimes a little coco cat.
 
Brussels

Brussels

Active Member
For over a year, I've had exceptional results using an organic product readily available at most hydroponic stores. Botanicare's PureBlend Pro grow, and PureBlend Pro flower are completely organic, and work very well in my DWC/SOG and SCROG grows.
I've been able to harvest every two weeks using three mothers, and three 'sectioned' grow zones. I've never needed any solution supplements, though I do use 'King Neptune's' seaweed and fish emulsion for weekly leaf feeding at different stage stages of growth. Yield has always been very impressive growing BB or NL....B
 
Brussels

Brussels

Active Member
Just one more little thingie using organic solutions: Your electronic PH meter will not read as it does using manufactured chemical solutions, though it doesnt seem to have the same effect with test strips. I simply set the ph for my water, and add the Botanicare. Never had any problems, except for those self-inflicted during my learing curve...B
 
hydro'rock

hydro'rock

Active Member
i used coco and i diden't like it. i used organic nutes and i started seeing worms in my coco. so i went back to dwc with iguana juice.
 
hydro'rock

hydro'rock

Active Member
I't was sun leaf or something like that black bag orange lable. It was certified by the omri but im going back to dwc using iguana juice.
 
FilthyFletch

FilthyFletch

Mr I Can Do That For Half
Organics seem to work well in soil and flood setups but dont use any in an aeroponics or fogger setup as it pretty much cloggs everything
 
email468

email468

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if you are jumping on the "organic" (whatever that means) bandwagon and using aeroponics - make sure you get nutes designed for aero (nothing to do with airstone).
 
closet.cult

closet.cult

New Member
*note: you cannot call it an organics if you are growing in 100% hydro solution. even if the nutes are organic. you must be in soil with organic nutrients.

you can have a hydrid system where instead of hydrocorn or coco you use soil as your medium of the top 1/3 of your roots and then they grow down into a hydro system. that's what i'm doing right now. it's labor intensive but the one plant i have using that system is outgrowing the other organics i have in 100% soil...for now. we'll see the final results when i cut them.
 
closet.cult

closet.cult

New Member
email468 said:
if you are jumping on the "organic" (whatever that means) bandwagon and using aeroponics - make sure you get nutes designed for aero (nothing to do with airstone).
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organics means natural ingredients mixed together gives all the nutrients a plant needs.

otherwise, it means you are using nitrogen and salt based chemicals mixed together to provide the nutrients. there is a difference to some people.
 
LoudBlunts

LoudBlunts

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LOL!!! so you telling me just b/c im not in soil, im not organic?


if that aint bogus.... so why isnt coco or hydroton organic? arent they all natural?

isnt hydroton just clay balls? coco is coconut fibers?

LOL!!!! so tell me again why it isnt organics unless you're growing in soil?

water is not organic/natural now? LOL!!!!

i guess High Times was wrong huh?

seems to me people just make up their own 'organics' soil people love to hate hydro...
 
email468

email468

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Personally, I don't care if you use organic nutrients or not. you can use them forever and never hear a peep from me. But inferring they are "better" or more "pure" will get my hackles up.

Organic means (or at least defined by common usage) "derived from living matter" or "denoting compounds containing carbon". But i think the definition has changed to: "shit we made up so we could hype our products and charge more."

Here's an example of why organic doesn't matter: if it has 7 protons in its nucleus and 5 electrons and an atomic weight of 14: it is nitrogen (which is organic btw - not sure why you singled out N as being bad) regardless of its origin and therefore indistinguishable from ... well nitrogen. So whether "something" is created in a lab or created in something organic it is still the same "something". This is especially true for common elements used in nutrients. Same goes for people vitamins - not one iota of difference between "organic" vitamins and other vitamins other than "organic" on the label (and very tellingly - the price). Same directions, same usage, same recommended daily requirements and most importantly, same results from taking them.

and as for "there is a difference to some people" i'm assuming you mean taste and flavor? i'll believe that after a series of double-blind taste tests. But here again, it doesn't matter if it is true or not - if you want to use organics go ahead. If you tell me they taste better - i'll ask for proof. No harm in proving claims, right?

I apologize for coming off harshly and i do understand the emotional and spiritual connection we make when using "organic" methods, nutrients, etc.. But there are some disturbing trends related to the organic craze. Especially when it comes to genetically modified foods and while that is another topic - the origin for the mistrust of GE food is similar (if not identical) to the pro-organic arguments. The generally bad science, anecdotal evidence, and voodoo pharmacology that surrounds organics is another very disturbing trend.

But again, to be clear, i am not saying you shouldn't use organics. Hell, i'm not even saying they might not be better but the evidence just isn't there to support that claim. sorry.
 
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