Hydro vs. Soil for newbie

teddiekgb123

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ive never checked ph growing in soil,and ive had many successful harvests.
Just because you had some buds at the end doesn't mean they couldn't have been bigger. Some people will have ph issues and that's one of the quickest ways to get deficiencies through lock.
 

teddiekgb123

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Hydo is simple, it just requires checking it a little more often which takes a couple minutes. If you're just a hobbyist then go with dirt I guess, but if you're serious about growing some pot you might as well start learning hydro. You may go through 5 soil grows with no or few deficiencies to learn from when you could have learned about it on here in the first place. Preventative learning. I guess the question is...how lazy are you?
 

deezbudz

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All GREAT info! Thanks, much appreciated! I would love to start in hydro, just a little nervous. I'm not lazy at all. I am BUSY....2 jobs and school. I will be home every night to check on it though. I will be starting with 4 clones from a reliable source to get it going. Splitting a bedroom into 2 rooms with a 400W MH in veg and 400W HPS in the flower(obviously). It sounds like soil would be better if I wanted to(in the future when I have my shit together) harvest around 4 plants every 2 weeks. Or would it be easier to try and harvest 8 plants in a month at 1 time? Any and all info in greatly appreciated! Thanks again!
 

dbkick

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I started hydro without a clue other than looking at info on the internet and having a buddy that grows peppers and shit.I didn't start with soil. I did DWC in some shitty little buckets and also aerospring . First harvest was over a pound , thats 4 plants. If you are growing for yield go hydro. Its certainly not rocket science, step right on up.
 

teddiekgb123

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All GREAT info! Thanks, much appreciated! I would love to start in hydro, just a little nervous. I'm not lazy at all. I am BUSY....2 jobs and school. I will be home every night to check on it though. I will be starting with 4 clones from a reliable source to get it going. Splitting a bedroom into 2 rooms with a 400W MH in veg and 400W HPS in the flower(obviously). It sounds like soil would be better if I wanted to(in the future when I have my shit together) harvest around 4 plants every 2 weeks. Or would it be easier to try and harvest 8 plants in a month at 1 time? Any and all info in greatly appreciated! Thanks again!
If you want to stagger it out like that you kinda have to do soil. Otherwise you will need a separate res. for the plants that are in different stages. Since you only have one flower light, soil will allow you to raise the shorter plants to meet the canopy, something you usually can't do with hydro setups. Definitely sounds like soil is more suited for you and if you are just growing for personal then I would do soil anyway....it's tastes better.
 

dbkick

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wow I scroll back a page and see teddie mention rocket science before me! + rep for stealing my glory AND for that kickass looking grow!
 

dbkick

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If you want to stagger it out like that you kinda have to do soil. Otherwise you will need a separate res. for the plants that are in different stages. Since you only have one flower light, soil will allow you to raise the plants to meet the canopy, something you usually can't do with hydro setups. Definitely sounds like soil is more suited for you and if you are just growing for personal then I would do soil anyway....it's tastes better.
he could do dwc, its not hard to elevate a shitty little bucket.
 

tsky

Active Member
na tht shit aint true people only say that because they use small pots a mate of mine used a 50l tub indoors and left that for 10 days and it was fine
you couldn't leave your plants for more then 2 days in soil?
edit: im with soil aswel for the record hydros much more sensitive to small mistakes and plants can die in a short short time space
 

Erdericks

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I'm a newbie Grower, still on my first grow figuring things out. From my personal limited experience, the information you can get here on the RIU forums from other peoples answered questions plus the amazing people that reply to questions I think it's hard to make any huge mistakes.

I started my grow in Soil and was amazed how quick they were growing, saw a post from WidowMaker about Grow Videos and I duplicated the mr. green grow setup (hydro) then modified it with suggestions from several people here in the forums and my local hydro store. Due to the advanced speed of the grow process. or at least my perceived speed difference. I made the move to hydro and would never go back. I can easily dispose of hydro waste water, not many pounds of dirt. it seems like there is less waste using hydro, now Cost of nutrients does add up. but it should be well worth it, with an excellent quality product you can be proud of. ph meter is a huge neccesity and I like having a meter to check the ppm on my nutrients to double check my mix. I have overdone it on nutrients for 1 entire week and my plants got a little burned, but in a few days they bounced right back.

Do the research, and give it a try. I never thought I would be so into growing until I saw my girls go from seed to the amazing huge plants they are now. you already have a huge advantage, the people here in RIU.
 

teddiekgb123

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edit: im with soil aswel for the record hydros much more sensitive to small mistakes and plants can die in a short short time space
ehhhhh.....ya they are more sensitive, but also quicker to fix and plants only die in a "short short" time if you are lazy. Just follow the suggested feed cycle by your nutrient line and if you are a beginner then don't start with a strain that is picky with nutes if ya can help it. The only real mistakes that may happen, if you stick to the chart, are allowing the ph or tds to go out of range. If a certain strain needs a little cal/mag or something it's not going to die in a few days without it and you can quickly correct it.
 

deezbudz

Member
Wait....you got a pound out of 4 plants??? Who, what, how in the hell did you do that?? What strain? If I can get anything close to that I'll do hydro.
 

teddiekgb123

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Wait....you got a pound out of 4 plants??? Who, what, how in the hell did you do that?? What strain? If I can get anything close to that I'll do hydro.
You can get a pound off of one plant scrogging if you want to veg for 2-3 months. Actually, I only vegged mine for 15 days, so I bet that 2 plants vegged for a month could yield a pound under a 1k.
 

dbkick

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Wait....you got a pound out of 4 plants??? Who, what, how in the hell did you do that?? What strain? If I can get anything close to that I'll do hydro.
Big bud went 10-12 zips, euphoria unlimited went 5 zips, white widow 6 zips and og kush at 4 zips. well over a pound.
 

dbkick

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You can get a pound off of one plant scrogging if you want to veg for 2-3 months. Actually, I only vegged mine for 15 days, so I bet that 2 plants vegged for a month could yield a pound under a 1k.
I can't veg for over 30 days or I end up with a very tall plant, second grow I lst'd from hell, turned out nice but I kinda missed the 5 foot plants. This my thrid grow I'll be letting them do wtf they want again just because I didn't prepare for lst.
 

deezbudz

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Whats the advan./disadvan. to veg for a shorter time period? Bigger yields from longer veg., then why would you only veg for 15 days? Just asking. Ok, lets say I choose hydro. I get 8 plants and veg for 3 weeks. How long in the flowering stage and how much can I expect to yield from that?
 

teddiekgb123

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I can't veg for over 30 days or I end up with a very tall plant, second grow I lst'd from hell, turned out nice but I kinda missed the 5 foot plants. This my thrid grow I'll be letting them do wtf they want again just because I didn't prepare for lst.
With scrog your plant doesn't grow vertically, it grows horizontally under the screen. The only advantage to having less plants and more veg is if your are legal and want to maximize the production per plant. Take a look at my grow.
 

dbkick

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With scrog your plant doesn't grow vertically, it grows horizontally under the screen. The only advantage to having less plants and more veg is if your are legal and want to maximize the production per plant. Take a look at my grow.
Yassir, I know, and I did look at your grow and it was good. I can't really do that with the route I've taken, which is dwc and aerospring. My last grow I had a nice big even canopy without a screen by lst.
 

shagster

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Soil is gonna be much easier for ya IMHO.....I started in soil, then set up a hydro/bubbleponic....went back to soil. I also use a room in my home although I do use a tent to enclose and control odor.....tons of info around here and in the faq....good luck.....
Could you set a water system with a pump on a timer and a dripper to water your soiled based plants ?
 
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