Indoor Selective Breeding

[D.Gotti]

Hi, im not very familiar with Selective breeding. I am looking for an expert or very experienced breeder to possibly answer some questions and guide me in the right direction.

By selective, I mean Selecting specific branches to pollinate for seeds, while the other branches remain seed-less. Im more concerned about secluding the branches and not pollinating more than i want. Any odd tips and tricks can be offered too.

Thank you all.

 

[Brick Top]

In the most basic way it can be put .. you have males growing separately from the females so they cannot pollinate the females. You collect male pollen in a small container, something like a plastic film case will work well, and you use a small paint brush, like an artist type, not like a house painter type, and you dip it in the pollen and lightly brush it onto the female flowers you want to create seeds. It is smart to pick a lower branch or two leaving your cola(s) and larger upper buds seedless for toking pleasure.

 

[DB&ST]

In the most basic way it can be put .. you have makes growing separately from the females so they cannot pollinate the females. You collect male pollen in a small container, something like a plastic film case will work well, and you use a small paint brush, like an artist type, not like a house painter type, and you drip it in the pollen and lightly brush it onto the female flowers you want to create seeds. It is smart to pick a lower branch or two leaving your cola(s) and larger upper buds seedless for toking pleasure.

Plus the chances that pollen's from flower will get to the higher branches/colas are lower.
The pollen's can only fall down if not blown by wind upwards.

 

[Brick Top]

Plus the chances that pollen's from flower will get to the higher branches/colas are lower.
The pollen's can only fall down if not blown by wind upwards.

I did not mention but if you have ventilation sucking from the bottom of your grow area up .. turn it off while you dust the buds you want seeds from and leave it off a little while before turning it on again. It won't suck any stray pollen upwards and onto other buds that way.

 

[D.Gotti]

Thank you both.

My first concern is the upward winds. I run vertical setups, so I cant stop the fans until lights out. They are vital in my setup. That being said, I will be removing the desired female from the tent to pollinate.

I Know a human beings sperm is no longer viable or active after a short period of time. Unless proper stored of course. The same would go for the pollen I assume. So how long does the pollen remain active or viable once its on the female plant? I know i can kill or deactivate the pollen with water. Can I remove the female before lights out, Pollinate her, Leave her out of the tent for the 12hrs of dark, Spray her with water right before lights on, Then put her back in the tent? Would this prevent my other females from getting pollinated, and still have enough time for the pollen to do its job? Is 12hrs enough?

 

[Brick Top]

Dioecious (separate male & female plants) species plant pollen doesn't remain viable very long at room temperature and humidity.

Pollen loses viability quickly at room temperature and even faster at higher temperatures. Pollen can stay viable at room temperature for several days. But quickly loses it's potency.

 

[D.Gotti]

Will the 12hrs on the female before i spray it be enough time for it to do its job?

 

[Brick Top]

Will the 12hrs on the female before i spray it be enough time for it to do its job?

Maybe someone else can answer that, but I can't. I have never been into making seeds, and in fact do all I can to keep it from happening, so I have no experience in seed making and what might go wrong in the process resulting in more pollinated areas of a plant than desired.

 

[CultivationArt]

Breeding/cloning is something i do for the op that i take part in.
now seed production can be complacated if not done right.
it can aslo ruin a entire harvest. now to the person who said pollenate lower
branches so you can leave colas for smoke. yea, but theyll be shitty seeds.
horrable genitics. poor phenos. i have to provide femanized and regular seeds
to few diff collectives. as well as clones.
so the all the regular seeds have to sprout, 100% of them.
as well as fems, but they have to be 99% female plants. thats how vendors get in BIG trouble.
theres only 2 ways to get fems and 2 ways only, somas ways. flower 4-6 weeks longer. but not all fems, some herms still.
and spraying a male horomone that produses pollin on a dedicated female plant. thats were all seeds are fems. the only way.
but yea paint brush pollenating is the best way other than lettin nature takes its coarse.(which i highly prefer if you have a dedicated female your willin to lose to seeds and a breeding tent for seperation ofcoarse)
but try to allow your male to produce some nice resinouse pollen. and choose a stud. not a dinky nerd for your male
introduse pollen at 4-6 weeks of flower, verying on sativas and indicas.
choose good good female phenos, try to avoid linebreeding.(sister to brother) exp: blue dream crossed with lavender.
lavender is a strechy afghan. blue dream is not. tall grower but no strech.
blue dream huge flowers. lavender has small but very dense buds.
blue dream, on my part never gets mites or mildo. lavender both. BAM blue lavender.
study certain chromozones, make sure they fit, and not counter off eachother.
Like pollenating 2 big bud plants. now we git huge flowers, but there leaning and snaping everywhere. lol
and like the cola thing, pollenating your colas make nice big colorful seeds, showing true gentics of its mother AND father.
which is what you want. and only tap your paint brush on the pistols of the individual cylax.
then you get one MAYBE 2 seeds on that top. crowns too.
hope this was help

 

[D.Gotti]

Yes thank you, that does help a bit more. I will be using an entire female to make seeds. I have many more plants, I dont plan on using only a few branches.

My main concern now is if 12hrs is enough time for the pollen to do what it needs to do, before i spray the female to kill any pollen that could get on my other females?

 

[canefan]

Cultivationartist, I have a question about a point you raise. Why would pollinating the lower branches result in inferior seeds and genetics?
I just don't understand why this would be, any help or insight on this would be appreciated.
Thanks
Canefan

 

[D.Gotti]

Im sure its just that in his opinion, the lower branches produce light fluffy buds incapable of producing fully developed beans. However not everyone would agree. I know i dont get these light fluffy buds in my vert setups, its usually common in horizontal grows.

 

[canefan]

I just have been using these branches for years as my seed area. If I have been wrong or can do it better I am all ears, just asking where I might find actual info on the incapable of passing on good genetics, lol. That part just kinda goes against everything I have read about genetics. Thanks

 

[wyteberrywidow]

I have to admit this is the first time i heard that.

 

[CultivationArt]

yea ofcoarse. and its gonna get to your other females, if your doing it in the same room.
once that polllen touches the pistols to cylax, that shits fertilized.

 

[wyteberrywidow]

Cultivationartist, I have a question about a point you raise. Why would pollinating the lower branches result in inferior seeds and genetics?
I just don't understand why this would be, any help or insight on this would be appreciated.
Thanks
Canefan

This is the question asked do you have a answer for this cultivationartist????

 

[wyteberrywidow]

yea ofcoarse. and its gonna get to your other females, if your doing it in the same room.
once that polllen touches the pistols to cylax, that shits fertilized.

I think every one knows that already..

 

[D.Gotti]

once that polllen touches the pistols to cylax, that shits fertilized.

Thats good news. I wont be doing it till much later, when i grow a couple really nice strains i want to cross. Ill plan to keep my male in another building, as well as the pollinated female, so no others get pollinated.

 

[D.Gotti]

I think every one knows that already..

No thats why I asked a hundred times. There was nowhere that anyone said its fertilized immediately.

So now i know i can pollinate, then spray 12 hours later and still get the seeds i want in the end.

 

[wyteberrywidow]

No thats why I asked a hundred times. There was nowhere that anyone said its fertilized immediately.

Not to sound like a ass but if you read up on this before asking you would know this.
Why do you think people remove the males before they bust open.Because once pollen touches a female she will begin to make seeds..