Envirolite 250W PC Grow - 12/12 from Seed

[StealthHawk]

So finally been able to get my second grow room set up. This time in a PC Case. I have used computer fans for intake and outtake, mylar inside the whole case and a red spectrum 250w envirolite for my lumens.

They say that the produce 12,000 lumens so I would have thought this should produce some pretty nice buds.

With only 8" of grow space it looks like this plant is going to have to be majorly lstd.

Would anyone recommend a ScrOG or SOG in this type of grow?

Anyone had experience with a 250watt Envirolite in such small conditions. I think i may get some heat problems thats all.

I'm only going to be growing one feminised seed. probably blueberry on 12/12 so trying to give it the best chance of keeping short.

I WANT SOME BIG BUDS THOUGH!! Any advice?

Growing medium is soil and perlite.

Thanks

 

[raeman1990]

not to be mean but if you want big buds, then you need more room to grow.

 

[sicknasty]

Sounds fun but I doubt you will get very much. That would be a sweet setup for seedlings, clones, or a hobby. Keep us updated though and good luck!

 

[Titania]

Why on earth did u get the red enviro for the whole growth! You would of been far better of with the blue, and used that for flowering aswell, although that would also be shit. But the red is useless for veg and gives out a fair bit of heat meaning u won't be able to put them more than 4 inches from them meaning even less room. Dear oh dear, you need to have a major re-think don't waste your time with that setup

 

[StealthHawk]

I appreciate your comments Titania but I should be able to get the plants much closer than four inches. The envirolite doesn't create too much heat and the intake fan is blowing just below it which will be my top buds.

How come you would recommend blue? Won't this just prolong the veg stage I want to get into flowering as fast as possible probably with some LST or ScrOG.

This grow is purely to gain more experience, improve my techniques and grab a small bit of personal too.

 

[psyclone]

It's so much too much wattage for the-(too small) space-maybe cfl's, I think it's not enough room personally.

 

[Titania]

I appreciate your comments Titania but I should be able to get the plants much closer than four inches. The envirolite doesn't create too much heat and the intake fan is blowing just below it which will be my top buds.

How come you would recommend blue? Won't this just prolong the veg stage I want to get into flowering as fast as possible probably with some LST or ScrOG.

This grow is purely to gain more experience, improve my techniques and grab a small bit of personal too.[/quot


Blue won't necesarely prolong veg state as long as you put them on 12/12. It's not ideal, your yeild will be small, but if you had to pick 1 blue or red it's blue hands down for me, ask most ppl red enviro's are pretty shit for flowering let alone veg!

 

[DWR]

Why on earth did u get the red enviro for the whole growth! You would of been far better of with the blue, and used that for flowering aswell, although that would also be shit. But the red is useless for veg and gives out a fair bit of heat meaning u won't be able to put them more than 4 inches from them meaning even less room. Dear oh dear, you need to have a major re-think don't waste your time with that setup

obv. u dont have one.... peace heat is 28 degress celcius !

put a fan there sinks down to 22 room temps ! And the Red ones u can use for veg, just the late veg.

Allthough i dont have any exp. just started i must say what u said was wrong.... then again the part that cfls are useless ist true ^^

PEACE

 

[StealthHawk]

obv. u dont have one.... peace heat is 28 degress celcius !

put a fan there sinks down to 22 room temps ! And the Red ones u can use for veg, just the late veg.

Allthough i dont have any exp. just started i must say what u said was wrong.... then again the part that cfls are useless ist true

Good input, I used a 125 watt envirolite for my first grow. Blue for veg and then switched to Red for flower. Did 8 weeks veg then 8 weeks flower and I came out with 2 ounces off one plant.
I would be happy with the same result in this grow. But since I'm doubling the lumens I would hope to progress further.
CFL's aren't useless..but envirolites were never made to make big bushes right? Sometimes you got to look at what somebody else might want to achieve from their grow. It might not be your target yield but for others it is sufficient.

 

[Titania]

Actualy DWR I do have one and grown 3 times with it. I don't think cfl are useless I think there great, (not so much for flowering though) . What I was saying is a red enviro for the whole growth is a mistake, 1: It's a PC grow so he has limited space, and the red light will make them strecth like fuck! Especially if he uses them from seed. 2: Blue will keep them compact and short ideal for a Pc grow. If you have the money Stealthhawk get a 125 blue and veg with that then switch to red. I hate to piss on your fire, I just don't want you to waste your time. Good luck anyhows.

 

[Titania]

obv. u dont have one.... peace heat is 28 degress celcius !

put a fan there sinks down to 22 room temps ! And the Red ones u can use for veg, just the late veg.

Allthough i dont have any exp. just started i must say what u said was wrong.... then again the part that cfls are useless ist true ^^

PEACE

I don't know where you got those figures from but I took the temp right at the top of my plants when they where 5 inches away and it was 39c, with a fan blowing over the tops it went down to just 33c. This was in a cupboard with no exhaust though, my point being they do sometimes create problamatic heat issues especially in confined areas. : !

 

[StealthHawk]

Thanks mate will take your opinion into consideration. I probably will have a go at it like this though. They aren't going to stretch much if I LST loads and then put a screen in too.
Pics will be available soon so we'll all sit and watch!!

 

[Titania]

Thanks mate will take your opinion into consideration. I probably will have a go at it like this though. They aren't going to stretch much if I LST loads and then put a screen in too.
Pics will be available soon so we'll all sit and watch!!

OH, sorry I didn't realise you were going to lst them, that should help.

Can't wait for picks!
Question: where did you do your last grow, and why are you doing it this time in PC?

 

[DWR]

^^ yeah Titania ^^ I agree, check out my grow

https://www.rollitup.org/cfl-growing/41743-starting-cfls-amazed-what-you-18.html

Purple N-lites

 

[StealthHawk]

Question: where did you do your last grow, and why are you doing it this time in PC?

I did my last grow in a converted wardrobe had three bag seeds in veg and two turned out male so just had one female. Learnt the styles of growing then so going to try some LSTing and possibly a ScrOG this time.

I've moved away for study for a year so I've got to be more stealth. Seemed clever just to carry on in a PC case and continue my learning.

 

[Titania]

I did my last grow in a converted wardrobe had three bag seeds in veg and two turned out male so just had one female. Learnt the styles of growing then so going to try some LSTing and possibly a ScrOG this time.

I've moved away for study for a year so I've got to be more stealth. Seemed clever just to carry on in a PC case and continue my learning.

Right, so are you doing it in an old pc case? you can buy especially made pc cases for growing! A friend of a friend had 1 which was 22 inches tall. What he did was to cut out the base leaving only enough room for the pot to fit through, then he raised the pc case with bits of wood so the pot was outside, and the base of the pc case just came up to the top of the pot, this way he was able to dedicate all of the room inside for the plant leaving about 16 inches of growth with the cfl he had on top. He had that tucked in a corner real 007 style. If your short on space maybe u could do something similar?

 

[psyclone]

Right, so are you doing it in an old pc case? you can buy especially made pc cases for growing! A friend of a friend had 1 which was 22 inches tall. What he did was to cut out the base leaving only enough room for the pot to fit through, then he raised the pc case with bits of wood so the pot was outside, and the base of the pc case just came up to the top of the pot, this way he was able to dedicate all of the room inside for the plant leaving about 16 inches of growth with the cfl he had on top. He had that tucked in a corner real 007 style. If your short on space maybe u could do something similar?

That's a smart thought..

 

[DWR]

Psyclone i posted a topic in toke n talk - PC Grow room... check that out


and yeah your heat if way to high if its 32° ! my hairs dried up yesterday on my plant !!!

dont know how this will continue

 

[Titania]

Psyclone i posted a topic in toke n talk - PC Grow room... check that out


and yeah your heat if way to high if its 32° ! my hairs dried up yesterday on my plant !!!

dont know how this will continue

Na that was my old grow. On my current grow they're basking in 20 to 25c, only a week old now under 125w enviro, all post some pics soon.

 

[mrXgreenthumbX]

a 250w red enviro light will be plenty to do 2 plants 12/12 from seed.
then maybe you could put it under a scrog if you wanted.. ive seen it done pn this site with just a 42w cfl!