ganjah shaman
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I say these plants look good but how old are they?6 months a year they sure arnt on a 60 day grow,ont thing i noticed in these pics that i like and thats the cfls under the plant good idea
SOIL vs HYDRO
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Japanfreak
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Yes, perlite and hydroton also can be used for years and years and are less scary then reused soil.
Japanfreak
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But I heard you need a PHD to handle a drip system
Japanfreak
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Sure but the monkey will probably fuck it up but because some e^parrot told him the wrong soil to buy, the monkey would then come on to RIU asks what up and be told to flush.
Japanfreak
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It doesn't tell me much because I actually know what's what and I don't look at one cycle and go "Wow" I look at weights and cycles over years and indoors a good hydro grower can grow a lot more than a good soil grower. But if I was a collector of stems and shit I would be really really impressed.
Cannabis Cup? That's the event for kids in Holland right? The fixed event that is paid with bribes and is laughed at all over the world right? Give me a fucking break, cannabis cup.
Viagro
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Because many people scorch their plants with nutes.
Japanfreak
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That's one reason, brought that up somewhere in this mess, that a lot of soil growers kill their soil and dump in hydro nutes anyway. That's why blanket statements like "soil is more forgiving" are just bullshit. People can fuck up anything, even falling down.
ganjah shaman
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japanfreak huh.ive seen a lot of your post man all you really do is rip on people every one is an etard or parrott but you huh,maybe if you grew good pot and smoked it it would mellow you out,here in the states there are several dozen cannibis cups,it just so happens holland has one too,if your bud was good eneough you might have a chance but with all your negitive energy i cant see your bud being very good and i doubt very seriously that you are putting up numbers like i posted,hydro cant compete with soil,smoke your hydro watch it snap crackle and pop for you,oh yah at least soil grown weed smells and taist like weed and not a chemy solution.When it comes down to it the stats out weigh your etard eparrott rant and the proof is in the customer satisfaction,the people have voted and the vote is for soil grown cannibis.
Stoner.Barbie
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hear hear well said (or ist here, here?) hahahahaaa sorry, been eating special christmas cookies.
MrStickyScissors
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ganjah shaman
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look 2lbs a light 10 lights 3 yr old soil tripple a grade dank buds every 6-8 weeks whats up with that its perpetual and fruitful cost about 1500 hundo a grow with nuets and electric and thats cali elec prices high as hell other states knock this down to 700 a grow cuz there elec is cheaper.and where do you get your fucked with soil if your power goes out?If the power is out for 3 days at worst all you have to do is throw a couple big flash lights in the room and it will keep them from flowering,with a hydro set up you better have a couple good generators or your not gonna have any plants left man soil beats out hydro on every level taist quality, its organic for real,and yah a lot of people quote"its more forgiving",well duh thats because it is,but either way if you really want to grow tripple a dank buds you need to be a mad scientist,learn everything you can from strain manipulation to what amino acids the plant requires,becuz if you dont know then you dont know,i got 20 yrs exp in both hydro and soil and if hydro was a better and cheaper way to grow the best bud possible i would be doing it,and so would everyone else ,at least its better than led lights
MrStickyScissors
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even when the power goes out wich has happened to me it is back on within a day
MrStickyScissors
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I run 8 one thousands and 3 four hundreads for veg and my bill is 750 a month. i live in cali. only pulling a little over or a little under a pound a light with 7 plants per light.alloceansforest soil
Lord Dangly Bits
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OK, What the Hell is up With JapanFreak? Is he trying to boost the number of his post? He Puts out about 5 post in 7 minutes.
And I think you All are wrong. You over water in Soil and it is a Bitch. Your Pumps shut down in Hydro and OH FUDGE! SOIL SUCKS!! HYDRO SUCKS!!
With Flood and drain you are wasting a ton of money on Nutrients you will dump. In Soil if you screw up your soil mix you have trouble turning it around. Bat Guano and such is not always the same. With Areo you can have tubes and such plug, so on and so on.
NOW WITH CANNA COCO. This is THE SHEET!!. IMPOSSIBLE to over water. You get ALL THE BENEFITS Of taste and smell of soil with out the trouble. It even looks like Soil. And do not buy those stupid low quality BAILS. It is PH neutral. If you over Nut it, just give it a good watering with 50% run off of PH water and wallah, all good. I truly can not understand why more people are not using this stuff. When you are finished with your grow, you just pull up the roots, throw it in 5 gallon buckets with holes in the bottom and flush it with a mix of Cannazyme or one of the other product. Let it sit for a few days. then flush it with PH'd water and use it again and again. I have used it up to 5 times, with no ill effect. I can grow trees in this stuff or keep them nice and small.
But here is the thing!!! To each his own. If we all acted the same. Liked the same things. Looked the same. Screwed the same. This would be one boring WORLD! If you like soil, then use soil. If you like Hydro, then grow in Hydro. Myself, I have done most of the techniques, and I am sticking with Coco in grow bags with a simple drip system. But this does not mean I will not still experiment with new techniques, new supplies and such. And might someday change my ways. But at this time, Coco is the easiest, most productive way I have found my myself.
I have seen this same argument more then just a couple of times over the years on this site. It always ends up the same way. Kind of like, you got Peanut Butter in my Chocolate!! NO!!! you got Chocolate in My Peanut Butter!!
Peace to all, Merry Christmas and have a Happy New year, and GROW ON!!
And I think you All are wrong. You over water in Soil and it is a Bitch. Your Pumps shut down in Hydro and OH FUDGE! SOIL SUCKS!! HYDRO SUCKS!!
With Flood and drain you are wasting a ton of money on Nutrients you will dump. In Soil if you screw up your soil mix you have trouble turning it around. Bat Guano and such is not always the same. With Areo you can have tubes and such plug, so on and so on.
NOW WITH CANNA COCO. This is THE SHEET!!. IMPOSSIBLE to over water. You get ALL THE BENEFITS Of taste and smell of soil with out the trouble. It even looks like Soil. And do not buy those stupid low quality BAILS. It is PH neutral. If you over Nut it, just give it a good watering with 50% run off of PH water and wallah, all good. I truly can not understand why more people are not using this stuff. When you are finished with your grow, you just pull up the roots, throw it in 5 gallon buckets with holes in the bottom and flush it with a mix of Cannazyme or one of the other product. Let it sit for a few days. then flush it with PH'd water and use it again and again. I have used it up to 5 times, with no ill effect. I can grow trees in this stuff or keep them nice and small.
But here is the thing!!! To each his own. If we all acted the same. Liked the same things. Looked the same. Screwed the same. This would be one boring WORLD! If you like soil, then use soil. If you like Hydro, then grow in Hydro. Myself, I have done most of the techniques, and I am sticking with Coco in grow bags with a simple drip system. But this does not mean I will not still experiment with new techniques, new supplies and such. And might someday change my ways. But at this time, Coco is the easiest, most productive way I have found my myself.
I have seen this same argument more then just a couple of times over the years on this site. It always ends up the same way. Kind of like, you got Peanut Butter in my Chocolate!! NO!!! you got Chocolate in My Peanut Butter!!
Peace to all, Merry Christmas and have a Happy New year, and GROW ON!!
ganjah shaman
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ok this is a nice set however think of this instead of pots how about raised beds and instead of growing 56 plants grow 130,your lights are more than eneough to grow 180 plants yes you will have to spend more on nuets but your yield will be arround 2 lbs a light,as it is you have more light than plants,that my friend is waisting money.
MrStickyScissors
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I pull more weight off less plants per light when they all get gud light. I see what your saying though. as many plants as you can put under a light that will grow correctly is best cause you have to pay for the electricity. I have allways wanted to grow 20 plants in 2 gallon pots and try and pull a zip a plant.
ganjah shaman
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one more piece of info about soil;microbes.soil contains micro organisms that basically eat it,these microbes produce byproducts that are benificial to the uptake and obsorbsion of amino acids by the plant.they are only found in soiland im sorry to say but these microbes make the difference and they are basically what makes soil better than hydro,but as the dangly man said to each there own
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