Stealth Cabinets

[stelthy]

This ebay guy sounds really good. This is what he had to say. I like how he is not makinf outrageous claims and not trying to push stuff on me. Would be a grand for the veg and flower lights so not a bad price either. Ive asked him for the exact specs of what i would need. It sounds promising.


I had the lights tested by 3 counties hydroponics. They are the largest grow shop chain in the UK and they dont currently sell led lights due to their poor performance (and lousy quality). They tested from seeds and clones over a 6 month period. If I can get the manufacturing sorted they will be stocking them in the new year as they were very impressed with the results, they stated that my lights were light years ahead of anything else on the market. If you are interested in using leds why not try 1 light and do a small grow? Quality is better than HID (everyone who sampled the results of my tests REALLY liked it ) and has a better taste, I think because with HID lights the plants have to draw up huge amounts of water (and therefore nutrients) to stop from drying out, which causes nutrient buildup in the plant. This is not the case with leds. Flowering time is pretty much the same (due to 1/3 of the red leds being 660Nm, the same mix as in late summer sunlight) and yeild is the same or very close. In thier tests 3 counties) they got about 90% of the yield of HID. I got the seed suppliers/breeders expected weight from my trials.
Lets put it this way, I use my lights, not HID. I am also very serious about these lights, I am currently working on a light for a enthusiast of rare carniverous plants which precisely reproduces the light at the equator at an altitude of 2km up a mountain!
If you interested try one light, you will get to see its performance over both the vegging and flowering phases and be able to decide whether to use leds for one or both phases.

Sounds promising ...I'll check ou the LINK now - STELTHY

 

[stelthy]

It all looks very good, I dont Know what would be better out of the 2, but Iam defo interested to find out - STELTHY

 

[BudBaby]

This guys arent cheap but they are cheaper than the ones form the US. He seems a really genuine bloke so ill see what the spec is for one of his flower lights.

 

[BudBaby]

Right cabs are up. Had a few mishaps when trying to assemble it and split some of the MDF but i rekon a bit of wood glue and some wood filler and all will be good. They are still sturdy.

Not done the doors yet as i thought it would be easier to hang them after ive lined them with mylar.

They didint give me enough screws so ive had to make do with what i could find.

Made a big boo boo when assembling the second cab and split all the rail, you can see this in one of the pics plus my attempt to put a screw right underneath it to support the rail and failing lol, screw is about 1/4" lower so does nothing lol. The rail is still fine though and as i say a bit of wood glue and filler i rekon it will lok mint.

There are a few gaps, bloke said this was normal and if i want it air tight just use some sealant.

Things didnt turn out to bad especially when you consider im a clumsy 20 stone oaf and i only had my sister to help me, i tried standing on one of the bottom cabs but this split the MDF lol so ive had to patch it up.

 

[stelthy]

Ok BEFORE covering anything with Mylar lets get the Res. tubs sorted!!!... If you look around for some plastic under bed style storage containers. I'll add pics..

You'll need 2 of these

* B&Q MAYBE A BETTER PLACE TO LOOK FOR THEM, TRY N GET THE ONES THAT FIT SIDE TO SIDE BACK TO FRONT OF THE BASE OF THE CABS (BIGGER THE BETTER) but try not to go much over 1FT in height

get 2 of these and we'll need to draw around them and cut out the holes one in the bottom section of each unit This will save a lot of effort at a later date - STELTHY

 

[stelthy]

Here's a LINK to some good ones, you'll need to find out the dimensions But these Jumbos look perfect!!


http://www.rubbermaid.com/Category/Pages/ProductDetail.aspx?CatName=Storage&SubcatId=Roughneck&Prod_ID=RP091415



Roughneck Jumbo

Generously sized for storage of bulky items, sports equipment, camping gear and more, Roughneck Jumbo has a snap close front for secure storage. The lid is hinged for easy one hand access, and built-in handles make lifting and moving easy.

Rubbermaid seems like a great option and they aren't clear so thats even better still - STELTHY

 

[BudBaby]

Ill get them sorted mate, probably be Monday now as the snow is bad round here.

Ive just ordered the lights, ive had 2 x 140watt for flower which he said will outdo a 600 watt MH so we will see and ive also had 1 x 140 watt veg light.

This is turning out to be expensive but ill only be running 420 watts lol. £1165 all in for the 3 lamps. He is starting them Tuesday.

 

[stelthy]

Yeah the snow's pretty bad here too It is well expensive, but I suppose what with cheaper electric bills and many harvests in your favour the cost will diminish over a few months or so and you'll have a great setup to show for it - STELTHY

 

[BudBaby]

Yes true. I don't want to be spending much more now, wish I'd decided to use led before I bought the big air sock, ballast and acoustic ducting but never mind. As I said in my message if we can get buy with that fan and filter I'm happy to keep the rest just incase I'm not happy with the led.

I think I will be more than happy with my lights though. I trust this guy.

 

[BudBaby]

I have just emailed the company i had the fan and filter off and asked them if i pay to send them back if they can exchange for something else, they probably wont do it but thought id ask.

What would be more suited to this led cab mate? I think you said 4" fan but was wondering if a smaller rhino would be sufficient now?

Let me know mate incase they will swap them. I hope they can as it would make the cab alot less work as i think the 4" fans would fit perfect.

Ill be going to town tomorrow when ill be getting adhesive, knife and jigsaw is there anything else i need to get?

 

[stelthy]

I have just emailed the company i had the fan and filter off and asked them if i pay to send them back if they can exchange for something else, they probably wont do it but thought id ask.

What would be more suited to this led cab mate? I think you said 4" fan but was wondering if a smaller rhino would be sufficient now?

Let me know mate incase they will swap them. I hope they can as it would make the cab alot less work as i think the 4" fans would fit perfect.

Ill be going to town tomorrow when ill be getting adhesive, knife and jigsaw is there anything else i need to get?

Hi dude, Hmm... 2X 4" or 2X 5" in line fans (low powered - Systemair) with appropriatly sized Uninsulated ducting and 2X small Rhino/Can filters (4/5") would work a treat and be alot less hassle to install, also 2 of the smallest available Odor Socs for the intakes... [I came up with a great idea] - Instead of having external Odor Soc+45degree bends.....Have them smaller and internal instead.. (nice and stealth)

Get adhesive, knife and jigsaw and if you can 2X storage containers (that will fit in each side of the cab) and as big as your cab/s will allow, simerlar to pic below:

then we can really make some headway whilst waiting on the fans,filters and ducting etc.. - STELTHY

 

[BudBaby]

Il see what he says mate. Would the 6 inch odor sock we have not be an option? Im just thinking ive already wasted £85 on the 10" one and now im not going HPS i dont need it.

I am on a budget now to be honest, ive spent well over 2 grand already. I always do this, i decide ill have a go at something and always end up spending a fortune lol.

If i can send this big fan and filter back i will and swap them for what we now need, if we can still use the 6" odorsok that would really help. Im just left then with the ballast and acoustic ducting which ill keep for a while just incase i have to change things.

Let me know mate, i want things to be as easy as possible so will price the smaller fans up just incase he wont swap them.

 

[BudBaby]

Not as bad as i expected even if i do have to buy. http://www.greenshorticulture.co.uk/Grow-room-Products-20/-In-Line-Fans-Fan-Filter-Deals-108/RUCK-Fan-Rhino-Pro-Filter-Packages-1241.asp

I know its a ruck fan but for £129.99 i can get the 4" fan and ducting and rhino filter. Would that fan be ok? Hopefully they will take these 8" back and swap for what i need

Odorsok http://www.hydraonline.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=36_34&products_id=283&zenid=36dvdqasaofsrl1p5om8monb21

Smallest one i see is 100 x 300 and there 30 quid each, my 6" one is the third smallest they do so im hoping we you can work it out so we can use that.

 

[BudBaby]

Oh i forgot to say ive got a stpale gun but im not sure if its up to the job, it will only fire the staples half way into the wood so there sticking out.

 

[BudBaby]

Great news the shop have said as long as there unused they will take them back.

Do i still need the bends mate as i can send them back aswell if need be, saves having junk everywhere, ive also got flanges aswell if we dont need them ill send them back. Not sure if i still need 4 timers also.

Ive got someone comming to look at the ballast after aswell

 

[BudBaby]

Sorry Stealthy mate ive not got my thinking head on today lol. I wont need 6" bends because we are goign for 4 " fans lol. Ill get them sent back aswell as the flanges and reducer i bought.

Just let me know what else i need apart form the 4" fans and filters, not sure how many 4" bends ill need to this new set up.

Also i think this place does a low powered budget ruck fan, will this be suitable for me? They are only 9" diameter also so i can fint them in my top cabs no problem, i think they will still be top quality just a lower powered version.

 

[BudBaby]

What size ltr wise on these containers are we approx thinking mate. I've been looking and anything over 50-60 ltrs are all over a foot in high.

 

[stelthy]

Sorry Stealthy mate ive not got my thinking head on today lol. I wont need 6" bends because we are goign for 4 " fans lol. Ill get them sent back aswell as the flanges and reducer i bought.

Just let me know what else i need apart form the 4" fans and filters, not sure how many 4" bends ill need to this new set up.

Also i think this place does a low powered budget ruck fan, will this be suitable for me? They are only 9" diameter also so i can fint them in my top cabs no problem, i think they will still be top quality just a lower powered version.

Yeah send the 6" bends back, you'll now need 4X 4" bends, 2X 4" inline fans, 2X smallest 4" carbon filters. We need to know the smallest Odor Soc sizes...Possibly a 4" or a 5" and get 2 of those and some 4" Uninsulated ducting

Yeah the smaller ruck fans should be fine, Because your using LED the heat build-up will be minimal so in-line fans can run slower with less force and everything will still be configured to optimal standard.


Its good news you can send back/swap your other goods GET A NEW STAPLE GUN LOL the staples need to go all the way in to work correctly... Do you have a tightener bolt on the top of the staple gun at the front? If so tighten it and it should send the staples out with a louder bang and they "should" penetrate the wood better,

Once we have all the new kit we can progress to cutting the various holes needed and then we can cover your 'super-cab' with Mylar and get the show on the road





Can you tell me the dimensions of the cabs again.. that way when I am out I can look for the correct litre size of container and let you know the best size to go for...So long as the tubs dont have holes in them (carry handles) and aren't transparent, we mainly need ones to best fill the floor space ... Also dont worry a bout the 1ft height margin for them up to 2ft tall is fine

let me know whats happening next man, Would be nice to see some kit in there soon

Sorry I didn't reply yesterday..I went into town n got pretty drunk, had a laugh out in the snow and came back to my mates for a 4:20 night cap - STELTHY

 

[BudBaby]

Each can is 1mtr deep, 1.1mtr wide and 1.6mtr tall.

Im off down town in a bit so ill get what i can today and have a look at some containers if they have got them at wickes.

 

[stelthy]

Each can is 1mtr deep, 1.1mtr wide and 1.6mtr tall.

Im off down town in a bit so ill get what i can today and have a look at some containers if they have got them at wickes.

Yeah dude, just try n get 2 storage containers as big as possible (up to 1m X 1m) with lids (flat lids if possible) that are not transparent,
Ok man! lemme know how it goes - STELTHY