Harvest a Pound Every Three Weeks!

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midwestfunkmaster

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robotninja said:
Sure man no problem, I turned the pump off for the full 12 hours of "Daylight" so as to dry the plant out as much as possible.

Worked great man, shit smells and tasted amazing with only 48 hours of curing so far!

Here's the method I used:
Flushing Aeroponic Stinkbud Method. 3.5 Days Total Time.

1. Drain the res of all water/nutes.
2. Fill with tap water, run the pump constantly for 1 hour to get rid of nutes, then drain again.
3. Refill with RO water & 150ml of Clearex, run pump back on 1/5 for 24 hours (5.8 ph).
4. Drain Res once again. Now fill the res with 450ml of Sweet and RO water (5.8 ph).
5. Now leave your pump off about 12 hours (Time it so that it's during ur 12 hours of "LIGHTS ON". Your plants should be wilting enough now for next step)
6. Turn the pump back on 1/5 interval for 24-48 hrs. Plants should turn light green/yellow.
7. Harvest time, chop em and hang em to dry.
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dagobaker said:
im running 2 cloners.......6 veg units...........6 flowering units
i want to build a flowering unit thats 6 foot long and 3 posts wide for an area that 3 foot wide and 6 foot long.......i have extra room for moving around and for the 30 gallon container
i need a 30+ gallon container thats 3 wide so it can collect from all 3 posts
they have 6 foot long posts so i dont need to cut them
any plans via pdf for that kind of unit
and.....anyone use the veg units for flowering?
i use the tough boxes from lowes for vegging units and was going to build 2 for my flowering room
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This is interesting.

Im thinking a 6ft long post [4 of them]

4 grow sites per post

One resevoir for the whole system

Grow 16 trees for higher yield instead of a slew of smaller plants in SOG style growing.



Anybody know or considered doing this ???
 
Beno Brown

Beno Brown

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Hate to sound like a noob but can someone direct me to how to set up the flowering room with this setup? I saw the specs for cloning and veg but not for flowering. Or is it the same setup as the veg? I read through about 50 pages and did a search yet didn't find anything. Thanks.
 
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LionsRoor said:
OK - I just reread your post more closely... to clarify - CF and EC are just different terms for the same thing - really just where the decimal point goes. An EC reading of 2.4 ms is the same as 24 CF. 1.0 ms = 700 ppm - so 24 CF = 2.4 EC = 1680 PPM. 2000 ppm is about 2.6 EC or 26 CF. Sorry for the confusion!
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Nice breakdown, thanks.
 
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RobertInAz

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Hey,
I have a few questions, and like everyone else I'll apologize in advance if they have been answered, but:
1.) In the consolidation on page 75, SB sez that the cloner lights should be on an 18/6 schedule with the pump running 1 minute on and 5 off, but in his DVD he sez lights for clones should be on 24 hours straight and the pump cycle should be 15 minutes on and 15 off. Did I miss an update somewhere along the line?
2.) Similarly, the consolidation sez that the veg formula is 126ml Cal-Mag, 180ml Karma, and 540ml Pro Veg, and the bloom formula is 126 ml Cal-Mag, 150 ml Sweet, 180 Karma, and 540 Pro Bloom. In the DVD he sez the bloom formula is 250 Cal-Mag, 175 Humic acid, 175 Sweet, and 550 Pro Bloom , and then he sez if you're mixing for veg, you would use 550ml of Pro Veg instead of 550ml of Pro Bloom, implying that there is a new veg formula that also has Humic acid. Botanicare doesn't even sell humic acid, and the Cal-Mag has been about doubled. WTF?
3.) SB sez that bloom formula (the first one) will take an 18 gallon res to 2900 PPM, but he starts off at 1700. In the DVD he is seen pouring about 1/3 of the mix into the res, and I'm assuming that that's the amount that will result in a PPM of 1700. Is the other 2/3 just for replacing nutrients for the next 3 weeks?
4.) Anyone in the Phoenix area interested in trading some clones?
Thanx again, Robert in Arizona
 
Solar Deity

Solar Deity

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RobertInAz said:
Hey,
I have a few questions, and like everyone else I'll apologize in advance if they have been answered, but:
1.) In the consolidation on page 75, SB sez that the cloner lights should be on an 18/6 schedule with the pump running 1 minute on and 5 off, but in his DVD he sez lights for clones should be on 24 hours straight and the pump cycle should be 15 minutes on and 15 off. Did I miss an update somewhere along the line?

1A.) The light timings can be anywhere from 18/6 to 24/0 with excellent results. The amount of heat needed will determine your light timings. In the cold northeast winter, i run my cloner lights at 24/0 beacuse I need the heat. The pump can also be run with different schedules depending on heat needed. It can be run constantly, 1-on/5-off or 15-on/15-off. I've tried them all and there isn't much diference. I find that the nute temperatures have the most to do with the speed of root propagation. I keep mine at 68 degrees in the winter with a heat mat under the res. You can do this with the heat the pump adds by running it longer/shorter depending on need.
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2.) Similarly, the consolidation sez that the veg formula is 126ml Cal-Mag, 180ml Karma, and 540ml Pro Veg, and the bloom formula is 126 ml Cal-Mag, 150 ml Sweet, 180 Karma, and 540 Pro Bloom. In the DVD he sez the bloom formula is 250 Cal-Mag, 175 Humic acid, 175 Sweet, and 550 Pro Bloom , and then he sez if you're mixing for veg, you would use 550ml of Pro Veg instead of 550ml of Pro Bloom, implying that there is a new veg formula that also has Humic acid. Botanicare doesn't even sell humic acid, and the Cal-Mag has been about doubled. WTF?

2A.) The first amounts are correct. They are just the recommended Botanicare feeding schedules based on 18 gallons. Humic acid is Liquid Karma. I've never seen the DVD. I've just used this site for the figures. You can also add 75-90ml of sweetner of choice (i use Flora Nectar) during veg.
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3.) SB sez that bloom formula (the first one) will take an 18 gallon res to 2900 PPM, but he starts off at 1700. In the DVD he is seen pouring about 1/3 of the mix into the res, and I'm assuming that that's the amount that will result in a PPM of 1700. Is the other 2/3 just for replacing nutrients for the next 3 weeks?

3A.) I never poured the entire batch in the res. I sometimes make a double batch as I have two reservoirs. I just pour some in and test to get to 1500-2000 PPM, depending on the strain. You will learn eventually about how much to add with repetition/experience. A 3 oz dixie cup filled with concentrate takes my 18 gallon res up 350-400 PPM. G13 likes to start at 1500, while Super Lemon Haze can handle 2000 right from the start. The plants will let you know what too much is. The concentrated mixed nutes store a long time. I find I need to add nutes every 4-5 days as they will drop 500 PPM during this time for my strains. Yes, the extra 2/3's are for the future.
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4.) Anyone in the Phoenix area interested in trading some clones?
Thanx again, Robert in Arizona

4A.) Sorry, snowy Northeast here.
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My thoughts/answers above. I've been using SB's method for 18 months with nothing but success.

SD
 
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RobertInAz

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Hi Solar,
Thanks for your quick response and wise counsel. School goes on ...
Merry Christmas, Happy New Year, God Bless America, Don't take any wooden nickels, Keep your knees together -- no, wait ...that's for my daughter ...
All the best,
Robert
 
NLXSK1

NLXSK1

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Hey Guys, I appologize to stinkbud for not reading through the whole thread but I have a question about watering times.

I got a periodic timer with times down to 1 second.

I am watering 2 seconds every 2 minutes. It seems to work pretty well.

Has anyone experimented with the spray times and found certain settings that work better than others? I am interested in the longer times because eventually I would like to design the system to drain to waste.
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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NLXSK1 said:
Hey Guys, I appologize to stinkbud for not reading through the whole thread but I have a question about watering times.

I got a periodic timer with times down to 1 second.

I am watering 2 seconds every 2 minutes. It seems to work pretty well.

Has anyone experimented with the spray times and found certain settings that work better than others? I am interested in the longer times because eventually I would like to design the system to drain to waste.
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1 minute on 4 or 5 minutes off is what is recommended. Longer times will work and won't hurt but can heat up the rez. 2 seconds doesn't sound long enough for the flowering setup. It might be okay for clones but if dealing with a thick root mass, 2 sec isn't going to do anything but dampen the outside.
 
supaleeb

supaleeb

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Either 1on/4off, 1on/5off, 15on/15off, 45on, 15off, perpetual. It honestly doesn't matter much. I think 15on/15off is the best I've tried yet. The longer dry cycle tends to discourage black algae, which is what I have the most problems with. By the way, Physan 20 + Hygrozyme, all the way.
 
JimmyT

JimmyT

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NLXSK1 said:
Has anyone experimented with the spray times and found certain settings that work better than others? I am interested in the longer times because eventually I would like to design the system to drain to waste.
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I leave the cloner running 24/7. I've done a side-by-side comparison of a cloner running 1 min on 5 min off and the other @ 24/7 and roots are produced much quicker when there's continuous air and water movement:leaf:
 
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RobertInAz

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Hi Supaleeb,
Can you tell me where to find a 1 minute on 5 minutes off pump timer, and what is Physan 20 + Hygrozyme?
Thanx, Robert in Arizona
 
mindphuk

mindphuk

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RobertInAz said:
Hi Supaleeb,
Can you tell me where to find a 1 minute on 5 minutes off pump timer, and what is Physan 20 + Hygrozyme?
Thanx, Robert in Arizona
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There are many places to buy a cycle timer. Pretty much any hydroponic store carry them as well as ebay.

Physan 20 is a powerful disinfectant. You do NOT want to use this as it will kill all beneficial organisms. You can use it with inorganic nutes but not the Botanicare line that Stink is recommending.
 
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